Rangers make awful trade
All those good things I've been saying about Jon Daniels?
Well, forget it.
Evan Grant has this from the DMN:
The overhauling of the Rangers' pitching staff moves into overdrive.
While club officials met with free-agent ace Kevin Millwood on Tuesday, the team agreed in principle to a deal with San Diego that will bring them right-handed starter Adam Eaton and hard-throwing setup man Akinori Otsuka and a minor league prospect in exchange for Highland Park's Chris Young, first baseman Adrian Gonzalez and outfielder Terrmel Sledge, major league officials confirmed. The trade is also contingent on the players passing physicals.
Rangers GM Jon Daniels, who was scheduled to meet with Millwood and agent Scott Boras on Tuesday afternoon, declined to comment.
It depends on who the prospect is -- Ben Johnson is a name I've heard cast about -- but whoever it is, this sounds like a horrible trade for Texas.
Chris Young, right now, is better and cheaper than Adam Eaton, who was demanding a 3 year, $27 million deal from the Padres.
Otsuka is a decent reliever.
Sledge is a decent outfielder.
Gonzalez is, of course, Gonzalez.
What an awful deal.
I don't see how this makes any sense for Texas.
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I thought Daniels...
by Texasportsfan on Dec 20, 2005 1:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's an okay deal
by Longhorn on Dec 20, 2005 1:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Eaton is not better than Young
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're saying
by Longhorn on Dec 20, 2005 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell no
He can't stay healthy.
And he's a free agent after the season.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he started..
Who cares about after the season? Get a draft pick for him then. I think the Rangers are trying to win this year, and if they believe Eaton will help them do that, more power to JD.
by Longhorn on Dec 20, 2005 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hoo
Good point about Eaton's durability, though. I'm not too concerned about a finger strain.
by hightowersmith on Dec 20, 2005 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If they are trying to win this year...
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I like the player, and I'd undo this trade if I could. But he isn't flawless. His recent track record is indicative of a ML future, but step a little farther back and it gets murkier.
I dunno. I'm just trying to feel better, y'know...
by hightowersmith on Dec 20, 2005 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Young
I don't view him as a potential ace, or anything like that.
But I think, at best, him vs. Eaton in 2006 is a toss-up.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Benefit of the doubt
That's all the silver lining I see. San Diego got a few very nice players back, with much less unknown quantity involved, for a guy who carries risk.
This isn't helping me...
by hightowersmith on Dec 20, 2005 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's my problem
I am a Rangers fan. I like Jon Daniels, and want him to succeed. I want the team to succeed. I want to be able to celebrate the moves they make, like I did the Soriano trade. I don't like ripping them.
And you know, I've always liked Adam Eaton, and thought he was someone worth taking a chance on.
But I just don't see that the risk/reward on this deal is worth it. Particularly if we're going to immediately turn around and overpay to get him to sign an extension here.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eaton didn't want to come here...
by ortonius7 on Dec 20, 2005 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Optimistic
Millwood
Padilla
Eaton
Poe
Dominguez
by brian mac on Dec 20, 2005 1:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Optimistic
by Texasportsfan on Dec 20, 2005 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not a bad rotation
Millwood
Young
Padilla
Loe
Dominguez
by Ian Cobb on Dec 20, 2005 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How does that rotation make me feel?
by shroomer on Dec 20, 2005 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I really liked Adrian Gonzalez, though. I'da hoped for something better in exchange.
At best, I'm copasetic about it. But it is gut-wrenchingly difficult to be excited about Adam Eaton.
That PTBNL better be really, really effin good.
by hightowersmith on Dec 20, 2005 1:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
PTBNL
by Bolt on Dec 20, 2005 2:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boiled down to suck
by Bolt on Dec 20, 2005 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
why on earth you would trade agon,cyoung and sledge for eaton, some over the hill japanese pitcher and ptbnl is beyond me.
they had a reporter out of san diego on saying how good that reliever is, and that eaton, when healthy can be a #1 and was at the start of last season the ace of the padres staff over peavy, personally i think he was blowing smoke.
i can only hope daniels knows something we dont know.
by rentz on Dec 20, 2005 2:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't get this at all
by trza on Dec 20, 2005 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well
by rentz on Dec 20, 2005 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm.
by trza on Dec 20, 2005 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
An Eaton extension
He wants $9 million per year.
I wouldn't pay Eaton $9 million per year.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well...
by Longhorn on Dec 20, 2005 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
by rentz on Dec 20, 2005 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he can produce?
Let's say he gets back on track, and can post a 100 ERA+, and stay healthy, the next three years...
Is that really worth $27 million?
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gee thanks man!
by trza on Dec 20, 2005 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All I have to say is....
by TheHossMan on Dec 20, 2005 2:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
2 ways this is a good deal for Texas
- The player to be named later is a top-pitching prospect.
- Chris Young will not be pitching because he accepted the deal the Sacramento Kings offered him 2 years ago.
by Texasportsfan on Dec 20, 2005 2:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Trade
I would have liked to seen a deal like this happen without sending chris young...
I always hate the idea of bringing NL pitching over to the AL...the hitters in the AL are so much more to contend with.
by tdi1985 on Dec 20, 2005 2:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!
by miles on Dec 20, 2005 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The PTBNL is C Billy Killian
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5184050
by cjbray on Dec 20, 2005 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well...
by rentz on Dec 20, 2005 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No it doesn't
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 20, 2005 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So the San Diego reporter said...
by Texasportsfan on Dec 20, 2005 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fuson
by rentz on Dec 20, 2005 2:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I live
Eaton: Carried the Pads, and at times was brilliant. Radio down here called him the next Peavy, as the two would feed off eachother performances. When he gets hit early, he gets hit alot. If he starts good, he'll end good. Hopefully with our infield/outfirld overhaul, our defense will be better, making him get hit less. I'm sad to see CY go, but at least I can still see him pitch here in SD.
Aki: First and foremost, he makes some of the funniest commercials on local TV! Secondly, he's an incredible set-up man, probbly one of the top 3 most consistent. He has a very funky delivery that off-sets the timing of hitters. He was suppose to be the new closer (him or Linebrink) if Hoffman went to Clevland.
So, I do think CY is better than Eaton, however, not by much. I think it'll prove itself to be an even trade, however the edge to CY is this age, and pricetag. I think the key here is AGon, someone we have no use for, and Sledge, someone who would have platooned with DD and GMJ for Aki, who IMO will be our most successful setup man.
At least we still retained Laird, Arias, and the DVD trio. Now if only Millwood can sign, and we pick up one more expiernced reliever..then I believe we'll be very competitive.
-SMITTY (sorry so long!!) =)
by SMITTY on Dec 20, 2005 2:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
It's nice to hear Eaton has his moments...
by hightowersmith on Dec 20, 2005 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Horrible, Horrible, Horrible Trade
by Chris Martin on Dec 20, 2005 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Daniels' thinking
by trza on Dec 20, 2005 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The bullpen is better now
by Chris Martin on Dec 20, 2005 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't say anything....
Req
by Requiem on Dec 20, 2005 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gonzalez
Gonzalez is going back to his hometown
by tdi1985 on Dec 20, 2005 3:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Young vs. Eaton
Eaton 4.27 ERA 1.43 WHIP pitching in the NL in a pitchers park.
Young 4.26 ERA 1.25 WHIP pitching in the AL in a hitters park.
Granted, that is the only season we really have to judge Young on so he could regress. On the other hand, we have more than ample evidence to show that Eaton sucks.
by Chris Martin on Dec 20, 2005 3:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
eaton vs young
but yah, based on last year young is the better pitcher. heres to hoping the rangers front office knows something we dont.
ask me again in 10minutes, and i will have changed my thoughts again im sure
by rentz on Dec 20, 2005 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Oracle chimes in...
Well, the Ranger front office gave away all the newfound-love they acquired last week in the clever Soriano for Wilkerson-Sledge swap. My best guess? The Rangers totally got Adam Eaton and Jake Peavy confused, thinking that they're landing the guy that finished in the top 10 in ERA the last two seasons and has 3 years until free agency rather than Eaton, who has put up a better-than-league-average ERA+ once in his career, during his 22-start rookie campaign. Chris Young, despite wearing down the second half of the season, had a better year than Eaton has ever had in the majors. And he won't be a free agent until the winter of 2010.
by Chris Martin on Dec 20, 2005 3:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
An obvious question?
Is it a Boras effect, or his decent W-L last year? His age?
I mean, it's something, right?
by hightowersmith on Dec 20, 2005 3:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Asking and getting
by Chris Martin on Dec 20, 2005 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say
Eaton pitches in a huge pitcher's park, but gets paid (at least demands to get paid) based on his ERA, not his ERA+.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2005 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This trade makes me ill.
This trade is as bad as the Sori trade was good. What the hell was JD thinking?
by Athos on Dec 20, 2005 3:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking
Am I right here?
by Sharky on Dec 20, 2005 4:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Because
Since we didn't, I dont care that much.
by Sharky on Dec 20, 2005 4:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anyways
You can be happy with that, Adam. Your boy Daniels is protecting Laird.
by Sharky on Dec 20, 2005 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Seems we
The only downside is giving up a trade chip in Adrain G.
But other than that, it's hardly terrible.
by Sharky on Dec 20, 2005 4:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You left one thing out
by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2005 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CY
by Longhorn on Dec 20, 2005 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't?
by Chris Martin on Dec 20, 2005 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eaton's injury history
by RCCook on Dec 20, 2005 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
You might be able to counter the money difference somewhat between Young and Eaton by what it would have cost to sign a guy similar to Otsuka as a FA. But I just hate to give up Gonzalez to get a 34 year old setup man who really regressed last year after the NL had time to adjust to him.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2005 5:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2005 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bleah
Bleck...
Otsuka for A-Gonz is decent, though I'd hoped for more. He's our second best reliever right now IMO. And we're probably saving money there, too, as Otsuka probably would have cost a lot more on the FA market.
Sledge I could care less about. Same for the catcher we got in return.
I just don't understand this at all. Why? Why? Why? WWWWHHHHYYYY?
I can't remember ever seeing Eaton pitch, but his numbers are not promising and I liked Young.
This SUCKS!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 20, 2005 5:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOOK
-SMITTY
by SMITTY on Dec 20, 2005 6:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Eaton a proven #2?
That guy is a proven #2 starter, who would be a #1 on most teams? You've got some pretty low standards for an ace starter.
I didn't particularly care for the AGon/Sledge for Otsuka/Killian part of the deal either, but I do think Otsuka is a solid reliever overall. As Adam said in his "Algebra Style" post, that portion of the trade is a slight advantage to San Diego, with the possibility to turn out well for the Rangers if Otsuka returns to his 2004 form, and Killian develops into a solid catching prospect. I think Texas could have done better there, but the deal's defensible, IMO.
But to deal Young, whose career ERA is the same 4.32 that Eaton has over the course of his career (and that's without even considering park effects) for a guy who's going to be a free agent in a year, who's three times more expensive, and who's already made it fairly clear he doesn't want to pitch here? That's a terrible trade-off, and I say that as someone who really likes Jon Daniels and looked forward to him running the Rangers. I'm very curious to hear his rationale for making this trade.
by RCCook on Dec 20, 2005 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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