Some items from the winter meetings

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 6, 2005 9:42 AM CST in News

Per Evan Grant in the DMN this morning, the Rangers are interested in Juan Pierre, but the asking price for him is supposedly either Thomas Diamond or John Danks.

My response would be hell, no. Pierre just isn't that good of a player.

T.R. Sullivan is reporting that the Rangers talked to the Padres again about Adam Eaton, and says that the Padres "really want Laird," but a Gerald Laird/Adrian Gonzalez package is more than they want to give up for Eaton, leading Texas to seek more from the Padres in the deal.

Sullivan also says that the Rangers might have to deal Laynce Nix to get Pierre from the Marlins, and that the asking price for Barry Zito appears to be something like Kevin Mench, Ian Kinsler, and either Danks or Diamond.

Free agents that the Rangers are supposedly looking at include Braden Looper, Roberto Hernandez, Reggie Sanders, Juan Encarnacion, and Preston Wilson, along with their ongoing pursuit of Matt Morris and Octavio Dotel.

Looper is coming off a bad year, but might not be a bad risk on a one year deal. Hernandez, I'm not terrible interested in.

Of the outfielders, Sanders would be a great pickup, and Wilson might not be a bad guy to go with a one year deal. He can play either center field or a corner spot, and he's hit in the past, although he cratered late in the season for Washington.

I've got zero interest in Juan Encarnacion, though.

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zito

if the price is mench,kinsler and diamond/danks, id do that without hesitation, well ok slight hesitation, id insist on negotiating an extension first.

by rentz on Dec 6, 2005 9:51 AM CST reply actions

Extension

Everyone should get over the idea of negotiating an extension with a player before trading for him. That just doesn't happen.

by BurntOrange on Dec 6, 2005 7:30 PM CST up reply actions

Pierre

I guess TINSTAPP only applies when it involves players you are interested in.

I would much rather see the Rangers go with a Nix/midlevel prospect to acquire Pierre but I found your empahtic "hell no" statement funny given your preaching of TINSTAPP in so many other instances...

by jctrampe on Dec 6, 2005 10:18 AM CST reply actions

Well

If that is all that Beane wants for Zito that is amazing. I would make that deal right away.

Yeah, I have been all about bringing Pierre to Texas but if it is going to take Danks or Diamond I am extremely hesitant. Now if they want Volquez and Nix I would make that happen.

by DIESCTBRS on Dec 6, 2005 10:24 AM CST up reply actions

Huh?

You would trade Mench, Nix, Kinsler, Volquez, and Danks or Diamond for one year each of Pierre and Zito? No thanks.

by trza on Dec 6, 2005 10:40 AM CST up reply actions

TNSTAAPP

That doesn't mean that you give pitching prospects away for one season from a middle-of-the-road centerfielder.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 6, 2005 10:34 AM CST up reply actions

yeah

That is exactly what might have to happen. In order to better we are going to have to make some moves this offseason. I am sick of waiting for pitching prospects to come and do nothing. I do not watch the Rangers religiously to know that our AA team has a solid pitching staff. And by solid I mean mediocre. I want results now not five years from now.

by DIESCTBRS on Dec 6, 2005 10:40 AM CST up reply actions

Pierre

Well, getting Pierre doesn't make you better. He isn't a good hitter, he should never leadoff, he has a noodle arm, and costs way too much.

by jf55510 on Dec 6, 2005 11:41 AM CST up reply actions

But he's so faaaaaast

by LoneStarBallUser on Dec 6, 2005 4:57 PM CST up reply actions

Agree

makes no sense to get pierre for 1 year...i am only an advocate of that if you also get zito...your lineup will be improved with a good leadoff man and maybe a preston wilson/reggie sanders /oF as well. Your rotation is much improved with Zito...and if you add a guy like Dotel your bullpen is much better. And then your team is somewhat of a contender. However if Texas doesn't want to commit to winniing this year than don't trade diamond or danks for 1 year of juan pierre.

by Agreen07 on Dec 6, 2005 10:58 AM CST up reply actions

Zee Toe

I've never been sold on Zito, but I still might make that deal.

by Dustin on Dec 6, 2005 5:39 PM CST reply actions

OF's

Of the OF's, I think Preston Wilson would be a huge upgrade in RF. He's got good speed, and a pretty good arm from what I remember. His power would probably jump back up at least a little if we got him out of that hitters graveyard in Washington. Could we get him for something similar to what the White Sox paid for Jermaine Dye last year? I'd WAY rather pay Wilson 2yrs/12mil, than pay Nix and one of the DVD for Pierre.

Somebody's got to win the West in '06. Why not Texas???

by thedirkatron on Dec 6, 2005 6:33 PM CST reply actions