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Ponson about to be a Ranger?

According to Evan Grant of the DMN, the Rangers are in "advanced talks" with Sidney Ponson on a one year low base, incentive laden contract.

Meh.  I don't really want Ponson here, but on something like that, as a low-risk gamble, I don't have a big issue with it.

Grant also says that Daniels is considering offers regarding Kevin Mench and Brad Wilkerson.  As I've said before, all things being equal, I'd rather keep Wilkerson.

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blows....
"There's no reason the Rangers can't get to the top.""My style is to keep folks in place who are good managers and want to win."

by miles on Dec 9, 2005 11:01 PM CST reply actions  

Hicks on ESPN radio this morning
I was driving around and Hicks was on.  The radio guy (can't think of his name right now, he was on with Jennifer Floyd Engel, I think they guy works for Ch. 11, anyway) asked Hicks about Ponson.

I am not quoting here, but Hicks basically said that they have spoken to Ponson and the Rangers FrontOffice feels as though Ponson has turned his life around and that Ponson knows he needs to change.  

Also, the announcer asked Hicks "it seems that someone in the Rangers FO has liked Ponson for a while, who is it that reaally does?"  Hicks said, that it was basically the scouts that liked POnson.  He said the scouts say Ponson has some filthy stuff and can be good.  Also, Hicks through in there that "when A-rod was here" A-Rod commented once that "Ponson has some of hte filthliest stuff in the Majors"  Also, Hicks said, that D. Chiti had met with Ponson.

I think this is a done deal, as long as Ponson does not get a better offer (and who exactly would give him better, I am not sure) nonethelesss, I think we are looking at Ponson in spring training and I think a member of the Starting Five to begin the season.....and to me, that Blows!

JD, you have made one good transaction (trading Soriano), if you have any pull, stay away from Ponson.

by simbaa on Dec 9, 2005 11:19 PM CST reply actions  

If we
get Ponson this will give Hicks a exuse to not go after anyone else and he will probaly replace Rogers and be our number 1 starter.
"There's no reason the Rangers can't get to the top.""My style is to keep folks in place who are good managers and want to win."

by miles on Dec 9, 2005 11:24 PM CST reply actions  

I do not understand this at all
I will say this: If this happens, we better sure as hell get one of the remaining decent FA starters left, and pencil in Ponson 5th. Ugh.

by jamcadbury on Dec 9, 2005 11:24 PM CST reply actions  

From a Baltimore Sun blog ...
http://tinyurl.com/9kacq

In talking to some baseball officials, it's clear that pitcher Sidney Ponson is becoming a hot commodity on the free agent market, judging by the number of teams that are expressing interest in him. People in the industry who predict that the Orioles will be obligated to pay the remaining $10 million on his contract after a March hearing envision a team signing Ponson at a discount rate and getting a potential 18-game winner for the middle or back end of its rotation. Whatever money he obtains from another club would be subtracted from the Orioles' ledger, so nobody will be motivated to dole out millions unless some sort of bidding war unfolds.

No matter what an arbitrator decides in March, Ponson won't secure another $22.5 million contract. He isn't holding out for one, either. He could be quite a bargain, given his age and his arm. It's just imperative that his head is attached properly.

I've talked to a few people who have seen Ponson in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and they all rave about his conditioning and his attitude. If he goes to a bar to meet up with friends, he drinks water. He's much thinner, and he's working out every morning.

I'm told that he'd prefer to pitch for a team that has a decent shot to make the playoffs, after experiencing that thrill with the San Francisco Giants in 2003. Also, a friend of mine who recently made contact with Ponson said that under the right circumstances, he'd be willing to change roles and become a closer. The old Sidney used to push aside that suggestion like a plate of cottage cheese and a non-alcohol beer, but he seems to be a different man now in many ways.

If a team with a deep rotation and a hole at the back end of its bullpen comes calling, he'll definitely listen. Hey, don't the Orioles need a closer?

by shroomer on Dec 9, 2005 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

Hmmm
If he's cheap, it's worth a look at least...what can it hurt to see?

by cosa on Dec 9, 2005 11:58 PM CST reply actions  

because
that would be our free agent aquizition on the offseason and give Hicks a exuse to not go after anyone.....Pedro Astacio all over again.....ugh
"There's no reason the Rangers can't get to the top.""My style is to keep folks in place who are good managers and want to win."

by miles on Dec 10, 2005 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't get emotional
It's an incentive-based deal for a pitcher who hasn't been good for a while.  I don't think anyone in the organization is stupid enough to think he's the answer.  If they get Ponson and don't acquire anyone else, well, they weren't going to get anyone else anyway.

by Dustin on Dec 10, 2005 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I know
but it just reminds me of Pedro Asctocio last year...
"There's no reason the Rangers can't get to the top.""My style is to keep folks in place who are good managers and want to win."

by miles on Dec 10, 2005 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed
Seems like many are assuming if we get him that'll be all we do. If that's the case, then of course this sucks monkey testicles. But I don't see the harm in giving an underachiever a chance to turn his career around here. Low Risk/ High Reward.

I still want at least two other decent starters though. Ponson, Morris, and ???

Somebody's got to win the West in '06. Why not Texas???

by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2005 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Good Risk
No one ever questioned his talent. If he has gotten his life together, then he is definitely worth a look

by huskers22 on Dec 10, 2005 12:28 AM CST reply actions  

Ponson = Bottom Feeding
But, what else you gonna do when Chris Young is your ace?

by rob @ Lone Star Ball on Dec 10, 2005 12:40 AM CST reply actions  

I don't see a problem with this
He has a lot to prove. Maybe he can step up. I mean if we are giving him only one year with mostly incentives I could care less.

by DIESCTBRS on Dec 10, 2005 2:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd have no problem
with a one year incentive based deal.  He did have the big contract year a few years ago, and wouldn't mind seeing a repeat of that.

by DJCahill on Dec 10, 2005 6:05 AM CST reply actions  

Ponson
I don't have a problem with this, it is the sort of thing other organizations do all the time.  If you can get a decent arm for practically nothing I think the Rangers have to jump on it.  At this point Ponson takes a place in the rotation ahead of whom?  I'll take him over Juoaquin Benoit or John Wasdin.

by pblack on Dec 10, 2005 10:05 AM CST reply actions  

Have to pursue deals such as these
There is no reason whatsoever that Young and Loe should be at the top of the rotation this year.  They are too young to assume that kind of pressure from fans and the media.  Hell, Young's tired out at the end of last season.  I think both have potential to become useful pitchers in the future, but they need to develop with the spotlight on somebody else this year.  The Rangers need to sign some pitchers who can eat innings, and the cheaper they do so, the better.  A low dollar contract for Ponson still makes it a possibility that somebody like Morris could be signed. I like this deal.

by pfe1223 on Dec 10, 2005 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

Number
Has anyone got an estimate on how much money Ponson would be getting?

If it's a contract similar to the one Astacio got, I can't see the harm in it.  The Matt Morris offer is still out there, so as of yet they haven't used this as a justification for not going after other pitchers.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 10, 2005 11:49 AM CST reply actions  

This team is a freakin' joke
Wasdin one year, Astacio the next, Ponson the next.

I give up.

by LoneStarBallUser on Dec 10, 2005 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

re:
Is it really that bad?  If they're paying him $5 million or so, I'd agree that it's a bad move, but I've yet to see an actual amount given.

Pedro Astacio was a failed experiment, but he was also a very cheap one.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 10, 2005 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes
this team is a joke. I can't believe we're debating the merits of having Sidney Ponson in our rotation next year.

by trza on Dec 10, 2005 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to be realistic
As long as the Rangers aren't going to go out and spend $30 million on free agents, Ponson or somebody of his ilk is going to be on this team.  Might as well be him, because I guess he does have the potential to be good.  They can always release him with virtually no consequence.  

I never disagreed with the Astacio signing for the same reasons.  I disagreed with how long they kept shoving him out there, but that doesn't matter right now.  He did, if you remember, turn in a few good performances early on.  

by Dustin on Dec 10, 2005 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Ponson
Once again... if this is their big FA pitching move of the off season, then YES it is an unmitigated disaster. Even with all of the positive stories about Ponson's "life changes" emenating out of his home base in Florida, this guy is still a huge risk.

 But assuming we add two other pitchers (one through trade, one through FA) I have absolutely no problem bringing the talented yet troubled Ponson in here to see if he really has changed. If he has turned his life around he can compete with Loe and Dominguez for the final two slots in the rotation.

If not, well, it's only half a million or so of Hicks' $'s. And I don't mind spending those.

Somebody's got to win the West in '06. Why not Texas???

by thedirkatron on Dec 11, 2005 4:05 AM CST up reply actions  

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