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Interesting article on Trey Hillman

http://www.baptiststandard.com/postnuke/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=1054

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GEORGETOWN--If Trey Hillman were a less honorable man, he might be managing the Texas Rangers in the American League instead of the Hokkaido Ham Fighters in Japan's Pacific League.

"I could honor the agreement with the Japanese or stay here and work with my hometown team, which had always been my dream," Hillman said. "But it came down to believing in my heart that God wouldn't have allowed the Rangers to permit me to talk with the Japanese had it not been a part of his timing. I believe God has a reason for his timing."

Always been his dream.  Wow.  Interesting how things always happen for a reason.  How about fulfilling his dream now?

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Oh yeah
Hank would really love that guy.
Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 3, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

And it is important
what Hank cares about ?  Sorry  :)

by Ed Coffin on Oct 3, 2006 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

No
Just assuming he's gone this offseason. Like Wilkerson, the repaired shoulder can be sold as "he's been compensating".

by Ed Coffin on Oct 3, 2006 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah
I was replying to Dustin.

by Brett Perryman on Oct 3, 2006 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hank Blalock: member of the Church of Satan
Just kidding.  It was just a commentary on his reputation on LSB for drinking and attending strip clubs.  Nothing was really meant by it.
Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 3, 2006 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Christians
can't drink or attend strip clubs?

by Longhorn on Oct 3, 2006 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure they can
But don't pretend it's not frowned upon by hardcore baptists, because it certainly is.

I didn't mean to start one of these stupid debates.

Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 3, 2006 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so tempted
I'm so tempted to argue this...but I think I'll work on resisting temptation some more, haha.

by rangeressary on Oct 3, 2006 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you want to argue, argue.
But don't try to tell me that Baptists look favorably upon strip clubs, because I grew up Baptist in this state and know a thing or two about it.
Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 4, 2006 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

What in the world is wrong
with a religious group not being in favor of its members going to strip bars? I guess that's not what's being argued here, but good grief, the conotation is that that's a bad thing to discourage.

Now trying to get them outlawed or something because you don't approve of them, that's annoying.

by Brett Perryman on Oct 4, 2006 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still don't want to argue...
The connotation from Dustin was that it's only "hardcore" Baptists who frown upon those things and not Christianity as a whole.  That's what I was going to argue, not the legitimacy of the actions.

As a Baptist minister, it's clearly frowned upon by us, but it's also frowned upon by the most liberal (non-hardcore?) churches as well.

by rangeressary on Oct 4, 2006 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never connoted or denoted that
Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 4, 2006 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing is wrong with it at all
But it sounded to me like that guy might've thought otherwise.  I wasn't making any kind of judgments here one way or the other.
Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 4, 2006 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not part of this discussion
...but I'd like to expand.

I don't like strip clubs.  My opinion is probably influenced by religion, but it's not exactly based upon religiont.  I've never in my life actually been to a strip joint, but I did know a stripper once and heard plenty about what they're like.  These places consume women.

They are free to exist and I'd never argue otherwise, but I think it's GREAT that churches discourage patronizing them.  I complain a lot about  churches, I know, but I have to say that they also do a lot of good things.  And this is one.

Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 4, 2006 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
"Hillman said he held chapel services for his team on several Sundays and is working on a witnessing card to give to players next year at spring training."

Rockies of the AL?

Fire Buck, DFA everyone, burn down the stadium.

by WyoRanger on Oct 3, 2006 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Hillman's Probably Out Despite Media Speculation
He really seems to view Japan as his mission field and loves the fact that he is there.  If he's as passionate about his mission field as he seems, I don't see anyway that he comes back.  Don't forget, missionary types don't really care about money, and many, MANY people use their jobs as an excuse and platform to get on the field.  That's really what it sounds like is happening here.

by rangeressary on Oct 3, 2006 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Hillman
I have read a few times that he's definitely interested in coming back to the U.S.  

His contract with the Fighters is up, so if he's coming back, this is probably the year.

by BurntOrange on Oct 3, 2006 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hillman's reputation
What is Hillman's reputation? What's his management style? Despite him graduationg from the smae high school and college as I did, I'm not sure he's the best fit here. I thought I had read some place that he was a stickler fro rules and the fundamentals. That includes pracices during the season and even after games. Not sure how that kind of things would fly here. Seems to be a bit Buckish.
Now, he may not be as bad as Buck. No doghouse, you play your way into the lineup, etc ... But how does his style fit with the current team?

by Jarrett on Oct 3, 2006 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Hillman
I've always read that he was a players' manager.

Stressing fundementals and having the team practice a lot doesn't mean anything, though.  HOW the manager convinces them that fundementals are important does, and how he convinces him that they NEED to practice also means a lot.

Baseball players do work hard, so they're not necessarily going to dislike Hillman if he makes him practice more.

On the other hand, if he institutes a bunch of silly rules they may not like that.  Could you be more specific on what you heard about that?

Nobody cares about your fantasy or video game teams.

by Dustin on Oct 3, 2006 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing specific
I don'thave specifcs. That why I was hoping someone here would.

I don't think pratice and fndamentals are necessarily a problem. My concern was how he motivated guys to practice. I don't know that I see a verteran club wanting to go out and take grounders all day.

I didn't know his reputation at all other than what I had read in one small article. It was by Phil Rodgers in Chicago I think.

by Jarrett on Oct 3, 2006 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

More...
http://www.bethebest.com/coachesbios.htm

Trey Hillman
Nippon Ham Fighters (Japan)

Since Trey Hillman took over in 2001, one foundation for the Fighters has been faith in the power of education and a belief that some less-traditional stats are worth pointing out to the players.  Equaling a 45-year old franchise record with 11 consecutive wins last season was evidence the Fighters have learned.  Hillman has been trying to teach his men to better recognize breaking balls out of the zone so they can lay off  them and attack the most promising pitches instead.
     Hillman has been in professional baseball for more than 20 years.  He is an alumnus of the University of Texas at Arlington where he was a standout baseball player and was named to the UTA Athletic Hall of Honor in 1992.  Hillman spent 13 years in the New York Yankees organization primarily as a manager at every level and won three Manager of the Year awards.  He guided his teams to three first-placed finishes.  In 2002, Trey was named Director of Player Development for the Texas Rangers.  The following year, Trey signed a two-year contract with the Fighters.
     He will use his vast managerial experience to give an inside look in how to build relationships with your players during a main session Friday.  This will follow an examination of the running game and tips on how to manage a poor attitude at Thursday Night Thunder.

BRAWLFEST 2006! F the Angels!

by ortonius on Oct 3, 2006 11:31 PM CDT reply actions  

More
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Elliott/2006/10/01/1930535-sun.html

Trey Hillman, the former Yankees coach who instituted the tandem relay the A's liked so much -- where Jeter was up the first-base line to shovel pass to nip a standing Jeremy Giambi in post-season play -- has been mentioned as a candidate in Florida.

However, he might have second thoughts. He is managing the Nippon Ham Fighters in Japan.

Hillman lifted the Ham Fighters starter Satoru Kanemura, with two outs in the top of the fifth inning. His starter had a three-run lead and was an out away from earning his 10th victory.

Kanemura said after the game he'd "never forgive" his manager for costing him the win and said "I don't even want to see his face."

Management fined Kanemura 2-million yen and suspending him for the playoffs.

We imagine Hillman won't find the same kind of second guessing from Marlins arms.

In fact, Gibbons would like that too.

Ted Lilly didn't even get fined for his mound explo

BRAWLFEST 2006! F the Angels!

by ortonius on Oct 3, 2006 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

More...and deeper
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=3882

Hillman on the Move?: Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters manager Trey Hillman has been the subject of rumors recently after Sports Illustrated's Web site reported the fourth-year skipper would be a good fit for the Kansas City Royals, who would need someone capable of developing younger players.

Hillman, who managed at Triple-A Columbus from 1999-2001, was director of player development for the Texas Rangers in 2002 before coming to Japan.

The Texan said he was flattered by all the speculation, but that his preference would be to stay with the northern Japan club, which is clinging to the last playoff spot in the Pacific League.

BRAWLFEST 2006! F the Angels!

by ortonius on Oct 3, 2006 11:41 PM CDT reply actions  

And more...
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/sp20061004jg.html

"Sometimes, I have to give difficult messages to both the staff and the players. I don't like giving difficult messages, but I am also not afraid to give them."

Further snippets:
The person who has stood the tallest in this whole regrettable incident is Trey Hillman. His handling of the situation has been very adept.

In the macho world of pro sports, nobody likes to be shown up, whether it is player vs. player, player vs. manager, or manager vs. manager. The first instinct is always to step up when challenged...

You have to tip your hat to Hillman in this case for doing exactly the opposite.

The truth is, that he may have dealt with it differently if it had been with a player back home, but now in his fourth season in Japan, the Texan has learned a lot about the culture and reacted appropriately.

By letting the front office deal with Kanemura, Hillman was able to keep himself and the team focused on what was really important -- winning the PL regular-season title and a first-round bye in the playoffs.

BRAWLFEST 2006! F the Angels!

by ortonius on Oct 3, 2006 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

HE KNOWS HOW TO BUNT!!!
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/sports/20060914TDY20003.htm

Instead of these more mundane factors, the press has latched onto manager Trey Hillman's new-found appreciation for the sacrifice bunt as the core cause of the havoc the Hamsters have wrecked.

This should come as no surprise to anyone. After all, a year ago, the Chiba Lotte Marines were getting the same treatment. Manager Bobby Valentine could be forgiven for thinking the media believed his last name was Magic, since so many Lotte wins were accompanied by stories about "Bobby magic." Very often these were articles about the Marines' lineups, which Valentine changes nearly as often as his socks.

This year it is Hillman's turn. After three years of a strict on-base percentage attack in which he bunted less than any other manager in Japan, Hillman is bunting twice as often.

"The bunting has been part of our success but people need to look at it in perspective, because some people are writing that the reason we are winning is because we are bunting more," he said.

BRAWLFEST 2006! F the Angels!

by ortonius on Oct 3, 2006 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Hillman
doesn't sound like a player's manager to me. I want to see the rangers really shake things up and hire Rusty Greer.

by shallrelicme on Oct 4, 2006 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope like hell not
If Rusty wants to manage, he can get off his dead ass and manage a minor league team.  I don't want him learning on the job with the Rangers.
Baseball wives are leeches. ... They're just hookers on retainer. -- Rangerchick

by DJCahill on Oct 4, 2006 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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