Vince Young...again

by texasbuckeye on Dec 3, 2006 3:15 PM CST

I don't know how he does it but that guy just manages to win. Crazy come back last week and then manages to beat the Colts this week....wow. Who knows if how good he will ever be but he just seems to have that knack for winning even though it isn't pretty sometimes.

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yeah

he's doing much better than anyone expected, though it wasn't good to see him limping off the field at the end

Pimps be damned, it's harder out here for a Rangers fan!

by rentz on Dec 3, 2006 3:08 PM CST reply actions

Yep.

But, it was very pretty in January.

by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2006 3:08 PM CST reply actions

Leinart > VY

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 3, 2006 3:19 PM CST reply actions

haha

i'll take that one as a joke

rage against the gold club

by erikj07 on Dec 3, 2006 3:20 PM CST up reply actions

It is.

by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2006 3:21 PM CST up reply actions

Nope

I'd rather have Leinart.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 3, 2006 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

Why?

Is it b/c vince single beat Leinart's team in the rose bowl or the fact that he is the better professional player? I don't understand how in the world you can say that. All he does is win games in fashions never seen before. And he doesn't say moronic things like "I still think we are the better team" after getting beat for the National Championship.

rage against the gold club

by erikj07 on Dec 3, 2006 3:51 PM CST up reply actions

Why?

Because I think Leinart is a better QB.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 3, 2006 4:06 PM CST up reply actions

QB's

I was one who thought if a team drafted Vince to be quarterback would make a huge mistake. He has won me over and surprised the heck out of me. However I do think Leinert will be a better pro. It helps Leinert he is surrounded by great talent, except an offensive line, in Arizona.

There are two things I worry about Vince. 1. He will most likely have to learn a new offense next year since Norm Chow will most likely leave. 2. How will NFL defenses adapt to him the more they see him.

I would still not bet against Jay Cutler being better than both Leinert and Young.

by brian mac on Dec 3, 2006 4:23 PM CST up reply actions

Because he thinks

VY is a WR.

by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2006 4:40 PM CST up reply actions

ok homer...

None of that matters.. that was college, buddy. Leinart is the better QB, sure Vince has had a decent couple of games.. but come on... look at his numbers leading up to the Giants game.

by cmkelly29 on Dec 3, 2006 6:34 PM CST up reply actions

Arizona changed their OC couple weeks ago too

So did Oakland. So did all the bad teams LOL. Kinda shows it's important!

You dont see defensive coordinators getting fired will-nilly in the middle of seasons..

Anyways, so Leinert might have a better chance now. But I dunno, beating Oakland doesn't show me anything.

Yao Ming rejected

by Sharky on Dec 3, 2006 6:41 PM CST up reply actions

Nah

VY >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leinart

AND Leinart has far superior talent around him. Give VY Fitz, Anquan, Edge, Pope, BJ, we'll; a lot better numbers then...

by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2006 6:42 PM CST up reply actions

VY......

His OL is MUCH better than Arizona's. Not even close actually. That matters more than skill players. VY also has a much better D getting him good field position.

You can't really compare the two right now. I tend to think VY will be mediocre at best. I have no idea about Mr. Hollywood.

VY's problem is he will have to make far more adjustments to his game to last long and consistently win. Not going to be easy. Mr. Hollywood is more plug and play.

The NFL will catch up to VY's game. Can he adjust?

by bdavison94 on Dec 3, 2006 9:13 PM CST up reply actions

i like this

"way no one has ever seen" quote. Right, he told a DE to stop tackling him, then told the FG kicker to boot a 60 yarder.

by ab03 on Dec 3, 2006 7:29 PM CST up reply actions

Vince doesn't get respect

I think it's what fuels him. I just hope you aren't one of those people who change your tune in 5 years when Vince has a ring and Leinart is thinking about how good life used to be when he got to bang semi-celebrities in LA...

you jackin' it?

by chief on Dec 3, 2006 3:29 PM CST up reply actions

don't worry

if that happens leinart will still have all that money to break his fall so i doubt he will be crying too much

why don't teams not called the Red Sox or Yankees just close-up, burn down the stadium, and then as a group jump off a cliff

by texasbuckeye on Dec 3, 2006 3:49 PM CST up reply actions

ahhh

banging semi-celebs in LA..."the high life"

"I'm sick of hearing about the DVD and how they are untouchable." - Dan McDowell

by Agreen07 on Dec 3, 2006 3:53 PM CST up reply actions

I really doubt...

...that Young will have a ring in 5 years, or that Leinart is thinking about how good life used to be.

I also doubt that Young is fueled by anything I have to say.

It may be having to hear people in Houston putting him in the HOF before he'd ever played a pro snap that made me cynical, though.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 3, 2006 4:06 PM CST up reply actions

im not sayin

the guys will win a ring or will be in the HOF when its all said and done, i just respectfully disagree with you that Leinart is the better quarterback.

rage against the gold club

by erikj07 on Dec 3, 2006 4:11 PM CST up reply actions

I can't imagine

the Titans with a Super Bowl in 5 years either. But if they do have one in 5 years, more power to VY.

"I'm sick of hearing about the DVD and how they are untouchable." - Dan McDowell

by Agreen07 on Dec 3, 2006 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

Chow

You need an OC.

VY is the type of QB that's going to do very, very bad without a good OC.

Yao Ming rejected

by Sharky on Dec 3, 2006 6:31 PM CST reply actions

Greg Davis

Have you ever heard of him? He's about as bad of an OC as there is. Vince didn't break out until he stopped listening to him.

you jackin' it?

by chief on Dec 3, 2006 6:49 PM CST up reply actions

What I don't understand

is why people who don't want to give Vince credit revert to the "Leinart is better" line. I know that Young got picked ahead of Leinart in the draft, but geez, can't you just be happy for the guy and be impressed that he's doing better than most of thought he could do at this point in his career? Why does it have to be turned into an argument, rather than just appreciating his improvement and realizing that Leinart is going to be really good too?

by Brett Perryman on Dec 3, 2006 8:42 PM CST reply actions

Z, I'm sorry...

But, as chief AJ sycophant on this board, I have to publically call you out for questioning Adam's views in front of everyone. If you're going to call Adam a hater, you must do it in private, and then, if he gives you the go-ahead, you can do so in a very respectful and obsequious manner here.

Also, as Lonestarball Vice President in Charge of Smart Ass Remarks, you need to ridicule his VY hate in a more flambouyant way. Like, "Adam, I think it's time you got over the time Vince cock blocked you at Fado's on Sixth Street."

by benmor78 on Dec 4, 2006 3:24 AM CST up reply actions

Scolding noted

I'll work on it.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 4, 2006 6:32 AM CST up reply actions

Fado's

That's the place where Ben said, "f-----' Alicea, man," upon learning that Luis Alicea had won a game with a bases-loaded double, then went out in the alley, threw up, and passed out.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 4, 2006 11:05 AM CST up reply actions