4 fouls in the second half?

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:13 AM CDT

That's right, according to Benett Salvatore and his flock of blind mice, the Spurs played one of the cleanest halves in league playoff history. In that same time period, the Mavericks were whistled for 14 fouls and the Spurs hhad a 15-3 FT shooting advantage. Anyone else get a whiff of an overflowing septic tank?

Welcome to David Stern's league! Makes you glad that MLB umpires are the calibre of NBA refs, right?

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This series

is rigged, lets put it at that. Tim Duncan will get every call he wants, when he doesn't I wonder why. Dirk gets fouled and injured, I am surprised when the foul is called.

F Duncan

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:15 AM CDT reply actions

Before this

series I thought David Stern was the second best Comish in Sports. Now Bud Selig is looking like a king with no disrespect to him at all because I have never had a problem with him.

F Duncan

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:18 AM CDT reply actions

Stern

I've always thoughht he has ruined the NBA. He's encouraged the hip-hop and gansta attitudes that it's all about me and nobody matters as long as I get mine. He's killed the game by going to the star system and forcing the game into a one-on-one contest. Basketball is the only sport where I think you can truely say that the college product is a better game.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions

The Mavs

will change that when they win against the Spurs and tell him to shut his mouth and let us play. OUT WITH STERN!

F Duncan

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions

I'm wondering

Do the Mavs need to start whinning after every posession? I mean, you look at the two biggest whinning teams in the league, the Pistons and the Spurs, and they are the "best" defenses and have the best record. Maybe that's the secret of teh NBA, whine your way to success.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:18 AM CDT reply actions

True...

But I don't want to be looked at such as the dumbass Spurs, but it might be the only way to win a championship in this league...

F Duncan

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions

Wow

it's just a pathetic two-person whinefest. Blame it on 4-13 stackhouse or a 3-15 Harris. I will be glad when the Mavs are eliminated, whether it is by San Antonio, Phenoix/LA, or whatever team that comes out of the LEastern Conference.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:24 AM CDT reply actions

Nice

You a Spurs fan?

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions

After

seeing Mavs fans boo Michael Finley, Cuban do some of the most classless things I have ever seen, Terry go for cheapshots and Stackhouse's cheap toughness, I am really an anti-Mavs fan right now. Seriously, really sad display tonight.

Also, Jason Terry should be apologizing to the Player he took a cheapshot at, not the team.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Screw you

Spurs fan

When Sharky thinks your wierd, your wierd -- Sharky

by DJCahill on May 20, 2006 5:15 AM CDT up reply actions

I knew

you were a Spurs fan, ofcourse you don't have to whine because everyone favors your team so thats pretty cool I guess.

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Whine

bitch, excuses. The Mavs' real "Big Three"

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions

OK

We will be seeing who is whining after game 7, thats right....

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Pot, kettle, black.

People whining about people whining? I just find it funny.

Go Spurs! *runs away quickly*

by carterman on May 20, 2006 12:27 AM CDT reply actions

Don't run

if you do, it'll just be me and AndrewMedina when he shows up once in three blue moons.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Ofcourse

all the Spurs fans come out and talk about whining. The Spurs have absolutly no room to talk...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions

You know

what our organization doesn't do? Bitch to the league through media. Fans bitch, every fandom has those whiney homers. It really says something about the Mavs organization, though, when the classlessness runs from Owners to players to fans.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Ummmm...

Your players do... Tony Parker is spreading around rumors that are complete bullshit, Duncan says whatever the hell he wants.

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions

Dunky-wunky is the biggest whiner in the league--

--followed closely by Genobilli and Parker, and you have the nerve to call the Mavs organization, the players, and the fans whiny? Does your hypocracy know no bounds?

by Athos on May 20, 2006 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions

When it

comes to Whine, Cuban trumps all. And yeah, did you see the replay of Tim's third or fourth fouls tonight? No contact.

You guys are really pathetic. I can see why people hate Mavs fans so much.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions

Given such a class act as yourself ...

... to emulate, we'll all have to try and do better, then maybe we can have enough "class" to go troll a message board heavily populated by Spurs fans. Thanks for setting us straight.

by Athos on May 20, 2006 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Meh

this is a Rangers site. And I am a Rangers fan. It's absolutely pathetic, though, to see the behavior of both Mavs fans, management and players though.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Spurs fans

Ummm, which team consistantly gets ranked as the the whiniest, both for fans and for players. That's right, it's you. So go ahead, tell us how this was the only game that was fair and that you still got the short end of the straw. Then tell us that you get no respect.

Firebatm quit being a prick.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Whiniest?

Where's the poll for this? Whatever, maybe if the Mavs wanted to win, they should have shot better than 38%.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Maybe if

yall want to win, yall should stop whining and stop relying on bullshit foul calls on Duncan and dirty Bowen. That would be nice...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Oh you know

what else Spurs fans don't do? Boo our former players, especially ones that left through a management decision, not their own decision. Once again, absolutely pathetic display by Mavs fans.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions

x

"what else Spurs fans don't do? Boo our former players,"

Yall are to busy whining yalls asses off to care...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Finley himself

Said after the first game in Dallas that was about time they started booing him. Stop with that junk. I don;t like it, but he's played well against us, so I understand it.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Was this

between the part where he said that his family couldn't come to the games because of the stuff fans did and the part where he asked what he did wrong after giving 8 years to a team only to be called a "traitor" after he was cut?

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions

Avery

Was booed when he was announced at game 5.

http://www.maverickmoneyball.com/

by Wes Cox on May 20, 2006 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions

As lopsided as the calls were in the 2nd half ...

... that wasn't the difference in the game. The Mavs quit driving the basket for almost all of the 3rd quarter. They started taking very low-percentage shots and weren't putting the Spurs into positions where they had to foul.

There is no excuse for the Mavs playing like they played tonight. In that game, with everything that it meant, playing that sloppy is inexcusable. All things being equal, they are a better team than the Spurs, but they keep letting the Spurs hang around long enough to wrest the game away. The refs didn't help, but this loss is on the Mavs.

by Athos on May 20, 2006 12:29 AM CDT reply actions

I'm sorry,

I respectfully disagree. When the refs are that bad, it has a huge impact on the way the players play. The Mavs did take it to the basket at times, but they never got the calls when they got fouled. Players know those things. Knowingly or not, they aren't going to go inside and take a shot they know they'll get fouled on when they can try to make something outside. Horrible officiating can play a huge part, unfortunately.

You may disagree, but I have seen it first hand. I've worked as an official. I've worked with guys that were idiots when it came to their job. I also know that teams change what they do when they don't get the right calls over and over. I've seen much more talented teams get beaten because they can't do what they are best at because some guy is sitting on his thumbs. It's disappointing, but it happens.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions

Temper

goes up and momentum goes down, which sucks.

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Still, blaming the officiating ...

... is a loser's attitude. They definitely missed some calls tonight. And Duncan's little technique of jamming a lead shoulder into a defender, then shooting, is rewarded waaaaaaayyyyyyy to much with whistles, but the officials didn't make the Mavs turn the ball over time after time. Stack and Harris shot horribly, which was their own fault. They had several opportunities early in this game to put the aged Spurs away and they didn't take advantage of them. There's no excuse for not pushing their lead into double-digits while Duncan is sitting on the bench in foul trouble.

I feel pretty good about Game 7. Assuming that the horrible officiating negatively affects both teams about equally, the Mavs can win that game.

by Athos on May 20, 2006 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions

You know

what's really great about this series? It has given us some of the FINEST Spurs post-game interviews I have ever seen. I think Tim Duncan and others are genuinely pissed off.

My favorite

"I have nothing to say to or about Mark Cuban" - Tim Duncan in reference to the most pathetic owner in Sports.

"We'll see who's glaring in the end." - Tim Duncan in reference to Jerry Stackhouses flagrant on Michael Finley and consequent pointless posing.

"I heard traitor. For what? Being Cut? I heard cheater. For what? Getting punched?" - Michael Finley on the second most classless fandom in Sports.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:40 AM CDT reply actions

Why are you on this board?

Do you realize that the people you are calling classless are also Rangers fans, almost an exact overlap. If you hate Mavericks fans so much, maybe you should find a diferent baseball team so you don't have to sit next to us at the Ranger's games.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions

I root

for the Rangers not because of the fans, but because the team is filled with truly great players who are pretty good guys. I don't see that with the Mavs. I'm sure if the Rangers fans began booing Jim Sunderberg or Pudge or something, I'd be pretty pissed.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions

so if we boo those guys

will you become anti-Ranger too then?

BOO!

by willamos2 on May 20, 2006 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions

LOL

I love it.

BOOOO

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions

I'll just be

really disappointed in my Fellow Rangers fans.

And yes, if Spurs fans boo Avery, I'd say the same thing about them. Avery deserves to have his numbers hung at the top of the AT&T center with DRob and Sean.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions

LOL

If Spurs fans booed Avery, that would be the stupidest thing ever. He has shown class to them even now... Finley not so much...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions

You're right

Finley said he was "just another guy who used to play here." Oh shit, wait, that was Cuban.

well he did say that Mavs fans should boo him. Oh wait, that was Dirk.

Well he did take that cheapshot at a guy who was fighting for a loose ball. ...Wait, that was actually Terry.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Ummm..

Who was the guy that shoved Dirk and was trash talking him? Oh, that was Finley. And Finleys comments have not been that nice either...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions

BTW

Did you ever notice how Finley started strutting here when they played in the reg season? Showing up the team and the fans? I'm sure that's another reason some people are booing him.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions

FYI

Mavs fans cheared him wildly in the regular season. Most Mavericks fans a very appreciative of what he did here. The reason they boo him is because he went to our 1 big rival and it is nw the playoffs. They want him to not feel comfortable here. I don't know what diots have been saying stuff like that to him or his family, but there are drunks like that everywhere. Who knows if it's even true? I haven't heard anything like that from Finley and our resident Mavs hates in the media haven't said anythnig about that.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Yet

the Spurs fans still cheer Avery right now.

[bill walton] That's the difference between a champion and a pretender. [/bill walton]

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions

Bill Walton

He says some weird stuff sometimes...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions

Word

he compared Steve Nash to Bill Russell yesterday. WTF was that all about

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions

I remember

that,lol

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions

"We'll see who's glaring in the end."

Terry will be saying this after game 7...

"I have nothing to say to or about Mark Cuban"

Because hes to busy whining to his momma.

"I heard traitor. For what? Being Cut? I heard cheater. For what? Getting punched?"

No Finley...Because we saved 54 million dollars not having your old ass in our starting lineup...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions

The old ass

that lit you guys up tonight.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions

Yep...

I agree, but game 7 is all that matters, and I have a feeling I won;t be hearing from Spurs fans after that one...:)

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions

If the Mavs win

I'll still be around, and I'll own up. And I won't try to create phantom excuses. 38% guys. 38%.

If you guys shot like 60%, guy a great night from your superstar, great night from role players and had a series of bad calls go against you in the final seconds that completely shifted momentum, then I'll buy ref complaints as legitimate. Until that happens, own up. The Mavs made some stupid moves tonight.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions

Ummm

what? If you shoot 60% and have a great night from everyone, which to me means great D, there's no way you lose. Refs don't affect the game much at the end. It you let the game be that close so that it is decided in the end, don't blame the refs, blame yourself for letting it get that close and leaving it in their hands. The place refs make a difference is when they make consistantly bad calls that clearly favor one team. That's why the only sport, SB not withstanding, that has major issues about the perception of their refs is the NBA.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions

Then take

your own advice. Don't let the refs be an excuse, blame yourself.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Learn to read

I'm done with you, go away.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Darn

here we were all thinking that you'd vacate the board if Dallas won.

I could really care less if you're still here if the Mavs win or lose.

If you think that Mavs fans actually care that you're still on the board after Game 7, you're an idiot. I want the Mavs to win for many reasons, but rubbing it in Spurs fans' faces ain't one of them.

by willamos2 on May 20, 2006 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Quit

being a jerk.

by altercall on May 20, 2006 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions

miles continues to miss the point

...the incessant whining about whining? It's absolutely hilarious. The officiating has been inconsistent all series. Shut up already.

And last time I checked, being a Spurs fan and being a Rangers fan are two mutually exclusive things.

Go Spurs! *runs away quickly*

by carterman on May 20, 2006 12:54 AM CDT reply actions

Your fellow

Spurs fans would be doing the same, yet even more....I get that Im whining...

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions

I am so

psyched. Game 7, it's been a very good series.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions

x

1/22/02
The NBA fined Kenny Thomas (Hou) $15,000 and suspended him for 3 games and fined Shareef Abdur-Rahim (Atl) $15,000 and suspended him for 3 games for their fight in Monday's Hou-Atl game. Jason Terry (Atl) was also fined $7,500 and suspended for 1 game for throwing a punch during the altercation.

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 1:17 AM CDT reply actions

Yeah

Terry has had a history of discipline. Three times before this incident, I believe.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions

The point is

he only got fined...

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by miles on May 20, 2006 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions

and

suspended for one game. Read your own post again dude.

by FirebatM3 on May 20, 2006 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Fuck

I didn't see that....crap

Out With Stern

by miles on May 20, 2006 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions

That right there...

makes me mad I sat up last night (on East Coast time none the less) and argued with you about this subject. You know not what you are talking about.

by Chris Hanes on May 20, 2006 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions

heh

yeah, the rules are pretty clear...at first i wasnt really for the suspension, but seeing more angles, and reading about terrys past problems with hitting people, plus seeing the rule clearly layed out....it was deserved.

Pimps be damned, it's harder out here for a Rangers fan!

by rentz on May 20, 2006 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions