what do you think about the NMLR message board?
I'm curious to get the perspective of others LSB'ers.
For years I visited the NMLR board on a daily basis. At some point a couple of years ago it jumped the shark, becoming full of trolls and flamewars. I think it was a victim of its own success -- it became very popular and was very poorly moderated.
I periodically check the board to see how things are going there. I thought the last couple of times had a reasonable level of civility, so maybe they're turning things around over there.
How many of you visit the board? And Adam -- I've noticed that I'm not seeing any posts from you there. Have you left that community?
The only thing that I truly miss from NMLR is reading Brian Hayes posts. He and Adam were always my favorite contributers on that board. They really should team up in running LSB -- the blog would then become truly unstoppable :)
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While I've often loved the baseball talk there...
A lot of quality posters have been driven away lately and I think it's really taken away from the board. Some of those guys are here though, and for the most part, everyone seems to respect eachother. I enjoy that along with the intelligent baseball talk.
I've tended to stay away from the main Rangers board there lately. If I post there, it'll likely be in a game thread or on one of the minor league boards, which are outstanding.
by austintxhorn on Aug 24, 2006 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
The minor league coverage is still really good though. One thing NMLR has that LSB lacks is a lot of posters who live in OKC, Frisco, Clinton and other minor league cities. It's always cool to read first hand accounts.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 24, 2006 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we got shroom
by Longhorn on Aug 24, 2006 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
by FirebatM3 on Aug 25, 2006 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM >>>> JN and MJH
by Longhorn on Aug 24, 2006 11:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's two different
by FirebatM3 on Aug 25, 2006 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Hopefully, Rangers fans will read and enjoy the NMLR and LSB, because I think both have quality things to offer.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 25, 2006 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing
A few who have been interested in development for a long time post there, and a few others, but when I check it out lately, I don't find anything insightful on there that isn't said on here.
Right now, the site stats give just under 2% of the posts coming from the minor league forums. There are sometimes threads in the major league forums that involve prospects, but they almost always pertain to the major league club most directly.
Maybe I have good ole days syndrome, but I don't think it used to be like that.
And the reason that I hate that is that I can talk Rangers anywhere. Most of my friends who live around here are Rangers fans to some degree, some of them big ones. But very few people that I know well and am friends with know much or are interested in that side of things.
That, and they seem to share some of you guys' obsession with Danny Herrera and Tuglett.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2006 12:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe
by FirebatM3 on Aug 25, 2006 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that most of the Hulett love
by austintxhorn on Aug 25, 2006 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BPH
There's only one NMLR poster that I ever wished would disappear (someone who I don't think ever posted at LSB) -- and it appears I got my wish.
By the way, I, too, wish we'd see more of Adam back at NMLR.
by Jamey Newberg on Aug 25, 2006 6:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Posting at NMLR
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 25, 2006 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Opinon
With the blog format, and diaries, things tend to get discussed and then they go away. I am not sure why that happens, but probably pertains to so many different threads at NMLR. In that respect I definitely prefer that you discuss a topic, agree or disagree, and move on for the most part.
I do like that at NMLR the topics are broken up. On the board that was just changed from it became convoluted, because EVERYTHING was posted in the Rangers forum. It seems to be swinging back to posting in the minor league forums, but it takes time. I prefer that format a LOT more than having a running list of diaries.
So I guess each to their own. I miss the post from BPH (still post but not as much), Cahill, Adam, and some of the other guys that have set up shop over here. It all comes in a circle though, and it seems the NMLR has now gone from 90% critical/bitching about everything to more on the cheerleader side. I prefer in the middle somewhere.
I like both sites, and hit them both with regularity. And I agree, with I think Zywica that said, my favorite thing about NMLR has been the minor league information. I wish there was more of that.
by Mike Simonek on Aug 25, 2006 8:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
changes
Also, the system doesn't have as many big time prospects to get excited about. Anyway, I'm glad we have the embarassment of riches of both the NMLR and LSB. It's almost enough to make lawyer jokes go away...
by t ball on Aug 25, 2006 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think
by Mike Simonek on Aug 25, 2006 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer posting here.
And again, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, these are just my honest observations.
by Athos on Aug 25, 2006 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Newberg
by trza on Aug 25, 2006 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
word
Other days, Adam fits the bill, because he is usually maddeningly logical (and thorough) in his dissection of all possible implications for the Rangers and Baseball in general. He thinks of almost everything you would have thought of before you do, and then he goes and thinks of a couple dozen more things that never would have occurred to most of us slightly less curious baseball fans. Adam can make you lazy-he's probably siphoning more than a few advertising dollars away from DFW.com and its ilk. And he's pretty damn funny at times, too.
Mike I find a little harder to categorize, but I like him the best. This year, the prospect reports haven't been near as much fun as in the past, because, IMO, there just aren't that many players to get up about (That's not his fault, of course). But I can't think of a single "plus" piece he has done in the last couple of years that hasn't made me smarter. That revenue breakdown was more thoroughly researched than you can expect from a pro, no?. I've never met Mike (or Jamey or Adam), but I guess part of me kind of likes the idea that he is irritable and has a low tolerance for bullshit in people. I crack up when I think of the time he wrote about going out with his daughter instead of his wife because she was going to a wedding of ex-coworkers who "he had absolutely no use for."
OK, sorry about the essay.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 25, 2006 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSB vs. NMLR
As for the boards...When I discovered this "world" a few years ago Adam was using the old blog format which I never posted on (was it even possible...I assume yes). I was mostly a lurker on NMLR but would post every now and then. Once Adam switched to this blog I started to come here almost exclusively. I get JN and MJH's emails but I rarely go to that board. I prefer this one. Format is one reason. I prefer the diaries.
What started as a preference in format has morphed into enjoying this community.
by bdavison94 on Aug 25, 2006 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The joy of Rangers talk
If not for the work Adam and Jamey's team do (and for the interesting posts I've read over the years at both boards), I probably would have lost my love for the game and the team, which would have been a real shame since baseball's about the only constant detail in my life connected to the States anymore.
by rodinuk on Aug 25, 2006 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree....
I am a better fan because of those three guys though. They have all increased the depth to which I follow this team. Through them I have found posters here that have added yet another layer to that depth.
by bdavison94 on Aug 25, 2006 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to admit
by Taylor on Aug 25, 2006 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Enthusiasts (AJM) vs Ranger Fans (NMLR)
As a lifelong Ranger enthusiast (since '79), I'd rather discuss the realities of the current makeup of the team and what moves they could make to get better given the marketplace and the current management's makeup. Defending this or that hometown favorite player or bashing/defending management is just plain boring to me, and borders on office hen gossip.
Ultimately I come here for baseball insight - I don't find that much on NMLR anymore (Jamey and MJH excluded).
by zackaryl on Aug 25, 2006 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
delussional or a member of seven's immediate family. He was probably the reason that the board went to shit because he (and several others) decided to post the same inane topics that led to the same inane discussion over and over again.
The board now is much like the board here. SOme news, a little minors dicussion and some random topics. I don't see that big of a difference between the two.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 25, 2006 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn't the paragon
by zackaryl on Aug 25, 2006 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that he was annoying
by austintxhorn on Aug 25, 2006 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enjoy, appreciate, let it go
Second, it isn't necessary to post that disagreement when it either pours gasoline on a fire, or takes sides in a mindset brouhaha.
Finally, pointed picking at some point in context is simply a message board and blog 'biohazard'.
Eventually the users trend toward those who either must have the last word in disagreements, or leave in a snit over a perceived slight or disrespect.
Really, why let board conduct or attitudes bother you? Ideally these media would not need moderators or an administrator - to keep out excess profanity/vulgarity/obscenity, to delete commercial solicitations, to ban or block users who post links to porn or other unsavory stuff.
But it's not an ideal internet. I guess threats on another person should be chased down and reported, just like violations of privacy or intrustion into another poster's workplace.
Both LSB and the NMLR and email by subscription certainly help me keep up, and IMO many 'just opinions' do make you think and add to your perspective on the Rangers and baseball itself.
I'm going to have less and less time to read or post in the coming months, but would never just 'quit' either venue. Both are great for my purposes, getting information and sharing ideas.
I do wish the snert factor at NMLR board would diminish, particularly in the gameday threads. But I'm not there enough to register a valid complaint.
Final thought: Thanks Adam, Thanks Jamey you both add the the limited quality I get from following Ranger baseball.
by Ed Coffin on Aug 25, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts...
I tend to get a little irritated with Mike and Jamey's respective styles, for a number of reasons, but mostly for the same reason that Holden Caulfield didn't like the piano player at the bar he was hanging out in his first night back in NYC. It's just too tricked up. Sometimes, it's best just to say "The Rangers are playing like shit" instead of "Changing Max's diaper today, I realized a profound truth about the Rangers..." That's not to say I don't like Jamey, because he seems like an earnest, hardworking guy. I just don't like his writing style.
For the record, I didn't "attack" Mike on Adam's instructions because I view him as some sort of "competition" for Adam. I'd probably rather Adam fail miserably at writing because I think I'm better at it and I don't want him bogarting the little success that God sees fit to ration to our family.
by benmor78 on Aug 26, 2006 3:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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