Ken Rosenthal on Teixeira, Lee, Young
Ken Rosenthal has a new column up, which includes this item on the Rangers:
If the Rangers sign the newly acquired Carlos Lee to say, a five-year, $60 million contract, it could mark the beginning of the end for first baseman Mark Teixeira in Texas.
Before addressing Lee, the Rangers likely will grant an extension to shortstop Michael Young, whose current, below-market deal expires after the 2008 season.
Teixeira is in a more tenuous position.
He is signed for $9 million next season, but after that he will be one year away from free agency and eligible for salary arbitration.
At that point, if not before, the Rangers either will be compelled to sign Teixeira to a contract extension or trade him for pitching.
A long-term deal, however, is unlikely; Teixeira's agent, Scott Boras, generally prefers his clients to determine their values on the open market.
I'm so tired of the "the Rangers need to trade Mark Teixeira for pitching" b.s.
And trading Mark Teixeira so that you can sign Mike Young and Carlos Lee long-term makes zero sense.
Teixeira is a better hitter than Young or Lee. Really, he's a better player than either of those guys.
And he's just 26, while Lee is 30 and Young turns 30 in October.
As a general rule, you want to lock up the guys in their mid-20s long-term, not the guys with a "3" at the beginning of their age.
I've got no problem with Young being signed long-term, as long we aren't paying him on the assumption that he's going to keep producing like he did in 2005. That looks like a peak year...his 2004 and 2006 seasons seem more in line with what he's going to do going forward, and while that's solid production, it isn't star-level production, and he shouldn't be paid as a star.
The Rangers need to let Lee walk, and try to keep Teixeira and Young.
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That would be
Jon Daniels is not stupid, He knows that Tex is more important than a aging power hitter.
I am more than happy with draft picks for Lee...
So basically
No wonder this organization struggles to break from the mid-level teams.
Why dont we just say screw it, and sign them all.
by TexGoesYard on Aug 6, 2006 11:06 PM CDT reply actions
Oh yeah
by TexGoesYard on Aug 6, 2006 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
wow draft picks, propsects
picks, prospect, potential,
Did you just not start a journal asking why we can never land good prospects, and particularly pitching ones?
Hell if we suck at trying to scout players, just buy the ones that already have established credentials.
by TexGoesYard on Aug 6, 2006 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
Alright sweet
Sounds like a good plan, cant wait to sit around checking the rangers farm probables site for the next year years.....
by TexGoesYard on Aug 6, 2006 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
How much?
And how long do you think he's going to be able to do that? Because he's likely going to get worse over the next few years, not better.
I mean, hell, if your attitude is that salary doesn't matters, Hicks is rich, then let's just pretend we can spend $200 million and sign every free agent.
But then, I'm sure you were probably complaining about Chan Ho Park and why the Rangers ever signed him and gave him all that money while he was here...
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 6, 2006 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
30 hr and 100 rbi
"Rent a suck"
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 6, 2006 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
So far he is sucking this year
But basically if we dont sign him we are possibly getting an extremely down 2 months, for nothing.
by TexGoesYard on Aug 6, 2006 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
So what?
Cruz and Mench is basically about a wash.
So you are complaining about giving up Cordero and Nix for a rent-a-player.
That's pretty ridiculous.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 6, 2006 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
All of them
by booyahcaveman on Aug 6, 2006 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably
Lee
Stairs
Padilla
Eaton
GMJ
JHJ
Barajas
DeRosa
I don't see that all those guys should be back next year, particularly given the contracts they want.
Lee already turned down 4 years, $48 million. That's way more than I'd pay for him.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 6, 2006 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Comparable players
by booyahcaveman on Aug 6, 2006 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Contracts
If i had to choose, i'd take padilla,eaton and gmj over lee. derosa is a good role and bench player but he will want too much money for that kind of role.
Tex
Teixeira's Contract Demands
tex
he knows he would have no chance of competing EVER in baltimore.
at least with the rangers there is some hope since the division isnt a power house. although he will probably go somewhere else.
Id say forget about lee, sign Young for a lot of money now to extend him say 3 years past his Arbitration period, so we can lock him up but not be paying him a ton of money in 6 years, and then focus all your signing energy on tex and free agents.
AJM
Matters
Possible
by booyahcaveman on Aug 6, 2006 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
On Cruz and others...
It would be stupid not to resign Tex.
Signing MY is an obvious move.
Signing Carlos Lee is a stupid, stupid move. I've said it before, but it's worth repeating - he's not good enough in the field, and his offensive numbers are not outstanding enough for him to earn $12-13 million a year for five years. Plus, his career has already peaked.
"Young ... not star-level production" ?
Young
If he performs like he did in 2004, and like he has this year, he's very good player borderling on star.
I think Kinsler will end up being the better player, personally.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 7, 2006 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam has never forgiven Young ...
You disagree
by Brett Perryman on Aug 7, 2006 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
As much as I want Lee to sign lee and carry...
He's definitely a better player than Mench, but I really hope that we don't give him what he's asking for right now. Especially if it means trading Teixeira.
Because of we trade Teixeira for pitching and sign Lee long term, I think that we'll be opening up a hole in the lineup nearly as big as the one in the pitching staff. The offense isn't anything special this year and Teixeira is carrying it right now.
by austintxhorn on Aug 7, 2006 1:01 AM CDT reply actions
Lee
by booyahcaveman on Aug 7, 2006 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree in part
by austintxhorn on Aug 7, 2006 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
by booyahcaveman on Aug 7, 2006 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think....
x
by booyahcaveman on Aug 7, 2006 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions
RE: x
I don't know. I've lost pretty much all faith in the free agent market. How many guys with the production of Carlos Lee have to settle for less than they were looking for these days?
Usually, somebody is dumb enough to jump out and offer the guy what (or close) they are looking for.
by austintxhorn on Aug 7, 2006 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
FA market
Most of the time, you're right. Free agents won't usually live up to their contract.
There's a reason for buyer's remorse.
Req
Agreed...
Well written post.
Req
Oh wait...
Beltre was average or better his first two full seasons (1999-2000).
But recently he has been average to below average except for that one fluke pre-FA season.
Req
Subject should have read...
by austintxhorn on Aug 7, 2006 1:02 AM CDT reply actions
Adam you rule
Id resign Lee
Resign Padilla and GMJ. Then get Eaton and Wells (if he is a FA after this year)
by Nichols22 on Aug 7, 2006 9:43 AM CDT reply actions

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