OT: Top College QBs

by booyahcaveman on Sep 14, 2006 10:43 PM CDT Comment 38 comments

Okay my friend and I were having an argument today and I wanted to get some input from yall. I maintain that Matt Leinart when you take into account his record as a starter and performance at USC is one of the top 5 QBs in college FB in the last 20 yrs. Maybe even of all time. I just wanted to see yalls input on that question and gets some lists of top 5 in the last 20 yrs and top 5 of all time.

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A name to throw out there

Kerry Collins

I think people forget how good he was in college.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 14, 2006 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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Yeah that is a good one we didnt bring up. We brought up Toretta and Charlie Ward. We also brought up Testaverde (just outside the 20 yr window). Another friend even threw Heupel's name out there.

by booyahcaveman on Sep 14, 2006 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't...

that Kerry Collins/Ki-Jana Carter/Kyle Brady trio was unstoppable in 1994. What a great, great Penn State team (This coming from an Ohio State fan.)

by cmkelly29 on Sep 14, 2006 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vince Young..

He will be remembered...

We will see...

by miles on Sep 14, 2006 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Tommy Frazier

Was of the QB of what some see as the greatest teams of all time the 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers. Put up monster number is that amazing wishbone running attack.

by cjbray on Sep 14, 2006 10:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

top 5

think he is a top 5 guy?

by booyahcaveman on Sep 14, 2006 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

Very much in the top 5.

by Longhorn on Sep 14, 2006 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

very top 5. a dominant player. couldn't really be stopped when everyone knew he was gonna run.

"I'm sick of hearing about the DVD and how they are untouchable." - Dan McDowell

by Agreen07 on Sep 14, 2006 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think when ESPN

Had Herbstreit, Corso and that gang pick the all time best college team, they did it like a playoff format, it generally ended up being the 95 Nebraska team against the 2001 Miami team, with Miami winning of course.

"We do know that there have been cash-flow problems. I haven't been paid in a while. Like, there's no cash flowing to me."- Al Franken on Air America cash flow.

by Sharky on Sep 15, 2006 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mike Vick

He only played two years, and his second year was injury-marred, but that first year was freaking incredible.

He kept Virginia Tech in that title game despite FSU being the vastly better team overall.

Others I remember thinking were really good...
Charlie Ward, Tommy Frazier, Ty Detmer, Jake Plummer, Andre Ware, Peyton Manning... there are others I'm forgetting about.

And I always LOVED watching Antwan Randel El play, though it was hard to tell how good he was since he was always running for his life playing for those putrid Indiana teams. I often wonder how good he would've been in college had he gone to a powerhouse and focused solely on football.

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by thedirkatron on Sep 14, 2006 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Top 5 (past 20)

VY
Tommie Frazier

3a. Charlie Ward 3b. Matt Leinart

Danny Wuerffel
Antawn Randle El

All time?

Probably guys like Flutie, Staubach, Baugh, Punkett...

by Longhorn on Sep 14, 2006 11:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Plunkett*

by Longhorn on Sep 14, 2006 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah

Your Texas Rangers...laying the foundation for 2009...ok, who am I kidding? 2012.

by RangerMoto on Sep 15, 2006 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, I believe

I am right, that is how you spell 'Plunkett'. Really..

by Longhorn on Sep 15, 2006 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Other Guys

A few guys who don't get their due because they didn't pan out in the NFL:
Ken Dorsey, Miami
Danny Wuerffel, Florida
Major Harris, West Virginia (one of the first dual-threat QBs)
Timmy Chang, Hawaii (product of a system? Absolutely. But a damn good product)

And a name that most people may have forgotten about ...
Jim McMahon, BYU
Let's all remember that before the Super Bowl Shuffle, Jim McMahon was a GREAT QB for BYU.

Michael Young for President 2008. Mark Teixeira for Secretary of Defense. Hank Blalock for Secretary of Badassery.

by ghtd36 on Sep 14, 2006 11:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't the knock on BYU

that they wouldn't play a top school and that their National Championship was bogus?

Buck Showalter's trophy kills: A-Rod, Fuson, Hart, Nix, Mench, Dominguez, 2006 Rangers(???)

by Taylor on Sep 15, 2006 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That

And a slew of 26-yr. old returnees from missions. True in basketball, as well.

by Ed Coffin on Sep 15, 2006 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tommie Frazier

anyone?

"I'm sick of hearing about the DVD and how they are untouchable." - Dan McDowell

by Agreen07 on Sep 14, 2006 11:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Donovan McNabb

by JBImaknee on Sep 15, 2006 12:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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flutie, leinart, frazier, mcmahon, ward, plunkett, harris, elway, either of the 3 mannings, detmer, ware, chang, kingsbury, klingler, brees, weurfful, rivers, aikman.

that's all i can think of.

by mdickson on Sep 15, 2006 12:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

#1 is a no-brainer for me.

Ty Detmer. He set 42 passing records in 1990. No other QB has done that.

"I felt that I could've written it, so the fact that it already existed is really a technicality." - Walt Berkman

by orton1227 on Sep 15, 2006 6:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Chris Simms

"We do know that there have been cash-flow problems. I haven't been paid in a while. Like, there's no cash flowing to me."- Al Franken on Air America cash flow.

by Sharky on Sep 15, 2006 7:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You're funny.

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by DJCahill on Sep 15, 2006 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Based on college careers alone?

Vince Young
Jason White
Leinart/Palmer
Any of Tech's 5000+ yard QBs

Snakes!

by chief on Sep 15, 2006 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ya

detmer didn't have a better career than any of those guys.

by mdickson on Sep 15, 2006 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are being sarcastic.

Right?

"I felt that I could've written it, so the fact that it already existed is really a technicality." - Walt Berkman

by orton1227 on Sep 15, 2006 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

extremely

by mdickson on Sep 16, 2006 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who

Was the Indiana U quarterback that took the team to a rare Rose Bowl appearance about 1967? The name escapes me, but I recall he threw enough passes to Jade Butcher to exhaust a packinghouse's leather supply.

by Ed Coffin on Sep 15, 2006 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Harry Gonso

You see that TV looking thing in front of you Ed? You can use it and that typewriter thingy to find stuff like that out. :)

by Chris Martin on Sep 15, 2006 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Ouch

Your Texas Rangers...laying the foundation for 2009...ok, who am I kidding? 2012.

by RangerMoto on Sep 15, 2006 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What

Will they think of next ?? ...

by Ed Coffin on Sep 15, 2006 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

1968?

Harry Gonso?

Your Texas Rangers...laying the foundation for 2009...ok, who am I kidding? 2012.

by RangerMoto on Sep 15, 2006 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

David Klingler

former Cougar

by Ian Cobb on Sep 15, 2006 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

His senior year wasn't too good

except for game one when he kicked the crap out of my Louisiana Tech team while I was in the stands downing $3.50 beers.

Only thing good about that game was watching the Cougar mascot struggle to do pushups in the fourth quarter.

Buck Showalter's trophy kills: A-Rod, Fuson, Hart, Nix, Mench, Dominguez, 2006 Rangers(???)

by Taylor on Sep 15, 2006 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they had a terrible offensive line that year

which was just a taste of things to come with the Bengals...

by Ian Cobb on Sep 15, 2006 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love Louisiana

Reston, not so much...

Macho, macho man. I want to be, a macho man.

by Brian Thomas on Sep 16, 2006 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

those nortwest guys

were pretty good. bledsoe, ryan leaf, joey harrington.

by selppuc on Sep 17, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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"We do know that there have been cash-flow problems. I haven't been paid in a while. Like, there's no cash flowing to me."- Al Franken on Air America cash flow.

by Sharky on Sep 20, 2006 7:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs