Tex Clutch??

by RangerMack on Oct 18, 2007 1:18 AM CDT

Maybe it's just me but was Tex clutch this year? Maybe didn't pay too much attention to his few months in Atlanta but if he was that clutch wouldn't they be in the playoffs?

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well

not one of those players is still in the playoffs so eh to playoffs in that one.

if you want to use stuff like batting with runners in scoring position, 2 outs and such tex was definitely big in those situations.

.405 avg/.548 obp/.740 slugging with RISP.

1.318 ops with risp and 2 outs.

was brought to atlanta to help psuh them into the playoffs, and while the rest of the team didnt hold up their end he did set some braves records and was one of the best hitters in the NL over that stretch.

so, given that its a meaningless fluff award and tex at least came up big on the surface stats then you know.. whatever.

by DShep on Oct 18, 2007 1:25 AM CDT reply actions

Teix = clutch, tough Q though

A 163 OPS+ over 54 games, many of which were important until they completely collapsed, sort of renders it rhetorical.

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by inactive lsb user on Oct 18, 2007 2:44 AM CDT reply actions

Then I guess

the Rangers haven't had any clutch players in the '00s.

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by DJCahill on Oct 18, 2007 7:29 AM CDT reply actions

id say mike young

is clutch. Maybe not so much this year but def. for the last couple. also, tex clutch? no way. Never saw it here in TX.

"I'd need a picture of Jamey with a shotgun saying "This is my Boomstick!" before I could see that one." DJCahill

by NYTXFAN on Oct 18, 2007 8:18 AM CDT reply actions

Mike Young can't be clutch

the Rangers have finished 3rd and 4th since he has been here. By the original poster's criteria, he can't be clutch.

Career Stats

Close and Late
Michael Young .265/.304/.368
Mark Teixeira .265/.360/.518

2 Out, RISP
Michael Young .351/.422/.464
Mark Teixeira .297/.421/.671

Tie game
Michael Young .299/.347/.448
Mark Teixeira .284/.381/.537

In all clutch situations, Teixeira was simply better. I think this "Teixeira is not clutch and Michael Young is clutch" says a helluva lot more about the person making the statements quality of perception than anything else.

The "Michael Young is Clutch" is the same thing as "Derek Jeter is Clutch".

The U.S. mission in Iraq is a "nightmare with no end in sight"-Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez

by DJCahill on Oct 18, 2007 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions

how can you say that?

Where in those stats does it say anything about being clutch? Maybe slugging? maybe a point higher of obp with 2outs,risp. I think you have to rethink your argument. If I recall last year Mike young had one of the best average with runners in scoring position. What did tex give ya. Medicore numbers for two years and one good year. I'll take mike and his over 800 hits anyday of the week.

"I'd need a picture of Jamey with a shotgun saying "This is my Boomstick!" before I could see that one." DJCahill

by NYTXFAN on Oct 18, 2007 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions

Last year

Michael young got most of his hits after the Rangers were out of contention. I don't think there were any clutch hits in 2007 after the team, and especially Michael Young, rolled over the first two months.

The U.S. mission in Iraq is a "nightmare with no end in sight"-Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez

by DJCahill on Oct 18, 2007 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions

ok Cahill

We get it. You really, really, really hate Michael Young.

But that river of tears has dried for all of us.

by trza on Oct 18, 2007 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't see

how comparing him to Jeter, and using the same "clutchness" criteria that is used on Teixeira means I "hate" him.

I do think he is locally one of the most overrated players I've seen in a while, but he isn't a bad player. It's just that he comes nowhere close to living up to some of the hype folks put on him.

He's an .800 OPS SS with a mediocre glove. If folks want to call that greatness, more power to them.

The U.S. mission in Iraq is a "nightmare with no end in sight"-Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez

by DJCahill on Oct 18, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions