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Cowboys v. N.Y. Giants Game Thread

Big game for Dallas today.  New York has been hot the last several weeks.  Go Cowboys!                                      

                                                                   

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Vince Young.
He just finds ways to win.  Doesn't matter that his numbers are horrible.  With him on the field, the magic just finds a way to happen.  That's why Jacksonville will be crying all the way back to Florida tonight.  Oh wait.  Uh, this is an awkward development.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

moron
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

i mean
aren't just seeing that young is just vick redux, almost his identical twin?

by ab03 on Nov 11, 2007 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep
He's been pretty poor this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2007 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

you know who's been poor
Schaub.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?
Young (before today's crappy game):  93-151, 855 yards, 8 INTs, 3 TDs, 61.6 passer rating

Schaub:  146-215, 1658 yards, 7 INTs, 5 TDs, 85.0 passer rating

And don't give me the "but Young doesn't have any weapons" crap...Schaub's leading receivers are Kevin Walter, Owen Daniels, and Andre Davis, and Ron Dayne is the team's leading rusher.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2007 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm
wonder where i compared young to schaub.

all i said was schaub isn't very good, and he isn't...

but, if you want to play that game...young's wr's dropped 3 tds last week. and 4 of those ints were dropped/deflected... it's not crap when it's true.

"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Schaub
He's been fine.

If you think Schaub's been poor, I shudder to think how bad you think VY has been this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2007 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Madden Curse?
Not sure if it qualifies in this case but it might for a guy on the cover of Madden to have such horrid numbers.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 11, 2007 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

+1
Metaphorically cursed.

Stay tuned for the injury.

Sideshow ... onto 800. You can do it!

by inactive lsb user on Nov 12, 2007 1:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow.
Ugly play.  Beautiful touchdown.  I likes me some Romo.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

Tony Romo
is so much better than Eli Manning.
"Lebron James drags down the Cavs roster"- Skip Bayless

by miles on Nov 11, 2007 3:26 PM CST reply actions  

The Boys are in trouble this game
"On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

by jparks77 on Nov 11, 2007 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

HUGE
Plus we get the ball to start the 2nd half.

by Chris Hanes on Nov 11, 2007 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Or do we?
I thought we got the ball for the 2nd half, is that not right?

by Chris Hanes on Nov 11, 2007 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Stupid, Stupid Penalty
The leader of the team, not a coach, needs to get into Burnett's butt at halftime.

by Chris Hanes on Nov 11, 2007 4:40 PM CST reply actions  

Kevin Burnett is an ass.
He needs to be fined for that stupidity.

And Jimmy would have released his ass for stupid shit like that.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 4:41 PM CST reply actions  

No
he wouldn't have.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed
He only released players that weren't that good. Remember Leon Lett in the snow Jimmy knew he was a great player he just chewed his ass.
Look out Baylor Cubbies you will be crying David Keresh after the Sooners get done with you. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 11, 2007 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually
he is.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Considering that you think VY is a great NFL QB ..
I think I'll trust my own assessment a little more than yours.  But thanks for contributing.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm
more making stuff up, not sure where i said 'great'. But yeah, you don't know much...it's obvious.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you kidding?
Every time somebody criticizes Vincypoo, you bleed right through your extra-absorbent tampon.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

you sure do talk about
tampons a lot. guess you are an expert about...have fun with that.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, c'mon Drippy.
Surely you can come up with a more clever retort than that.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Jimmy Johnson
He was absolutely flipping out right there...

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2007 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

yeah
looked like he was about to cry.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess we were watching different guys.
He looked pissed there--like any coach should.  What did you see that the rest of us didn't?  Or are you just being a contrary ass because Vincypoo is a crappy NFL quarterback?

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

haha
damn you are pathetic. poor baby. you get your feelings hurt 'cause you are wrong...boo hooo
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2007 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually
I thought he was joking.

He's so famous for his psychology tactics...  I figured he was about to say, "that's what you wouldn't do."

by hightowersmith on Nov 11, 2007 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Missed it...
What did Burnett do?
"Lebron James drags down the Cavs roster"- Skip Bayless

by miles on Nov 11, 2007 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

With 20 seconds left...
...and the Giants ready to run to the locker room, he got a taunting penalty, which stopped the clock and put the Giants at midfield, allowing them to get a FG at the end of the half.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2007 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice first series by the D ...
to start the second half.  They needed to come up big to re-take the momentum that Burnett gave away.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

Gorgeous play.
Perfect in every way.

Beautiful execution.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

TO Owens with the TD
Sweet!
Look out Baylor Cubbies you will be crying David Keresh after the Sooners get done with you. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 11, 2007 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

our defense
has fits with brandon jacobs.  although watching him, i can't imagine how anybody can play him well.  he punishes linemen

by ab03 on Nov 11, 2007 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Eli is a dumbass
Two delay of game called on him so far.
Look out Baylor Cubbies you will be crying David Keresh after the Sooners get done with you. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 11, 2007 5:32 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah
Not only does he LOOK like he has Down Syndrome, but he plays like it too. I've wished failure on him since his draft day boo-hooing.

by brettgardner on Nov 11, 2007 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm
risque humor there.  ;)

by ab03 on Nov 11, 2007 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

TO is having a great game
Look out Baylor Cubbies you will be crying David Keresh after the Sooners get done with you. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 11, 2007 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

Yep.
He and Romo have the mojo today.  That's never good for the bad guys.

by Athos on Nov 11, 2007 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty
Filthy one.  Did you see the extra gear he went into after the catch?  

by brettgardner on Nov 11, 2007 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

adam, you still have thick skin?
because TO questions will follow soon

by ab03 on Nov 11, 2007 5:45 PM CST reply actions  

Owens
He's had a great game.

And Romo > Brady Quinn.  And Romo > VY.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2007 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

umm
duh. it didn't take you that long to figure that out, did it?
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 12, 2007 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Weren't you advocating...
...drafting Brady Quinn and getting rid of Romo, back in April?

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 12, 2007 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

VY = Michael Vick part 2
"I promise, if elected, I will crush the state of Georgia" - Stephen Colbert www.colbert08.org

by DJCahill on Nov 12, 2007 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think
it can be said too many times.
"I promise, if elected, I will crush the state of Georgia" - Stephen Colbert www.colbert08.org

by DJCahill on Nov 12, 2007 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Vick > Schaub
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 12, 2007 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really
and Schaub >> the grossly overrated VY.
"I promise, if elected, I will crush the state of Georgia" - Stephen Colbert www.colbert08.org

by DJCahill on Nov 12, 2007 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

yes really
and no.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 12, 2007 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Vince Young
= terrible quarterback with no arm.

They need to convert him to a wide receiver.

"I promise, if elected, I will crush the state of Georgia" - Stephen Colbert www.colbert08.org

by DJCahill on Nov 12, 2007 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Matt
Jones wasn't a 3rd overall pick and didn't get a 50 million dollar contract...
"Lebron James drags down the Cavs roster"- Skip Bayless

by miles on Nov 13, 2007 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

My point
is that your argument makes no sense.  Do you know how much backlash they would get from doing that?

They are stuck with him, and thats that.

Why the hell is that Brett Gardner guy on this site?

by miles on Nov 14, 2007 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Romo is a fricken surgeon
Lets recap what Skip Bayless said about this game this week:

Romo will have 4 turnovers, 2 INT's and 2 fumbles. Romo will revert to that too small, turnover prone, 6th round pick Bayless believes he is.

Terrell Owens never makes the big catch at the big time, unlike Plaxico Burress. Plaxico is much better.

The Giants will win in a not close game, 35-17.

So yeah, I'm enjoying this one.

by Sharky on Nov 11, 2007 5:49 PM CST reply actions  

+1
Look out Baylor Cubbies you will be crying David Keresh after the Sooners get done with you. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 11, 2007 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Skip being Skip
He is an idiot no matter how you slice it.
Look out Baylor Cubbies you will be crying David Keresh after the Sooners get done with you. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 11, 2007 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Sadly
They probably pretty much mirror AJM's thoughts before the game :)

by Sharky on Nov 11, 2007 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha
I love how on the Cowboys radio post game show, inevitably one of the first two or three calls is about Skip Bayless..

by Sharky on Nov 12, 2007 4:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Sharky
Please don't ever dignify, nay, glorify Skip Payless like that again ...
Sideshow ... onto 800. You can do it!

by inactive lsb user on Nov 12, 2007 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Bayless.....
has made a career out of saying something just to rile people up.  I don't know why people even watch or listen to the man.  When I see him on TV I turn the channel.

by bdavison94 on Nov 12, 2007 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Same protocol, here
If he's on, I'm out ...
Sideshow ... onto 800. You can do it!

by inactive lsb user on Nov 12, 2007 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Marion Barber though
Is pretty awful.

I think I'd rather see Jones in there, generally.

by Sharky on Nov 11, 2007 5:52 PM CST reply actions  

yep
Julius > Barber
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 12, 2007 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Penalty Box - both of you, for being idiots
Jones rushing '07: 102 att for 401 yds / 3.9 avg. / long of 25 / 2 TD's

Jones receiving '07: 13 rec for 129 yds / 9.9 avg / long of 24 / 0 TD's

Jones rushing career: 823 att for 3297 yds / 4.0 avg. / long of 77 / 18 TD's

Jones receiving career: 74 rec for 598 yds / 8.1 avg. / long of 39 / 0 TD's

The Barbarian rushing '07: 112 att for 569 yds / 5.1 avg. / long of 54 / 6 TD's

The Barbarian receiving '07: 24 rec for 182 yds / 7.6 avg. / long of 29 / 1 TD

The Barbarian rushing career: 385 att for 1761 yds / 4.6 avg. / long of 54 / 25 TD's

The Barbarian receiving career: 65 rec for 493 yds / 7.6 avg.  / long of 29 / 3 TD's

Barber: 4 career fumbles / 0 lost
Jones: 8 career fumbles / 6 lost

Extrapolated to Jones' career number of carries, and Barber would have committed a similar amount of fumbles, although, Julius Jones appears to lose fumbles when he fumbles.

Of course, Barber is undeniably the superior blocker as well. Barber basically dominates at every phase of the game. Jones has longer receptions on average, but doesn't score at all, because highly paid coaches choose to put the better red zone back in the game when it matters, just like they choose to go to Barber to salt away 4th quarters.

I'd also like to take the liberty to squash that stupid myth that Barber isn't explosive enough. Julius Jones' 77 yard runs tend to come once in a lifetime, when he feels like playing hard. Evidently, it has taken him 8 weeks or so to realize that he is playing in a contract year. He won't be resigned, bookmark me please. Barber has a better "long" run of 54 yards this year to Jones' 25. Barber also has a better "long" reception of 29 yards this year to Jones' 24.  

So, Shark, the OC theory is intriguing I guess, but you're catastrophically incorrect on this one.

Sideshow ... onto 800. You can do it!

by inactive lsb user on Nov 12, 2007 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

ahh
the noobish moron returns.
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Nov 13, 2007 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

you what this proves more than anything?
the giants are really bad.

romo and the cowboys in general are a very good team but they didn't show anything that we didnt' already know.  the giants were just magnificent at shooting themselves in the foot.

by ab03 on Nov 11, 2007 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

Anyway
 not that impressive a win, a couple big TO grabs that no penalties were called on the difference. And for a change, penalties really killed the OTHER team.

I remain really bullish on the team. I think Romo will get better in Garett's offense with time. And Phillips running the defense. Really like to see more from the defense, of course.

Garett has not been able to get a ground game going when it counts though. And yeah, I'd blame him more than any perceived  lack of talent, even if Barber is really slow. But, Garrett puts a lot of recievers out in a lot of great patterns, along with good protection, and lets Romo do surgeon work. Story of the season.

by Sharky on Nov 11, 2007 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

Romo
Coming into today's game, Brady, Peyton Manning, Garrard, and Roethlisberger were the only QB's with a higher QB rating.

Romo's already pretty awesome.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Nov 11, 2007 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i love the look on eli's face at the end
of the game

the "deer in the headlights""lost""whats going on" look

by knockoutking24 on Nov 11, 2007 6:35 PM CST reply actions  

Hell he looks like that all the time
I think someone took his SAT's for him to get into college.
Look out Baylor Cubbies you will be crying David Keresh after the Sooners get done with you. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 11, 2007 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

He went
to Ole Miss, the worst college in the history of the world....
"Lebron James drags down the Cavs roster"- Skip Bayless

by miles on Nov 11, 2007 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Bobby Carpenter
Man that pick looks like a bust.  Imagine this defense with Antonio Cromartie (taken with the next pick).  Or the offense with Santonio Holmes.
Some professionals get better with age and experience. Lawyers, professors, engineers. Hookers? Not so much. -- DJ Cahill

by tricer on Nov 12, 2007 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

i liked the pick at the time
of carpenter

guys picked after him:

Bobby Carpenter * Antonio Cromartie * Tamba Hali * Laurence Maroney * Manny Lawson * Davin Joseph * Johnathan Joseph * Santonio Holmes * John McCargo * DeAngelo Williams * Marcedes Lewis * Nick Mangold * Joseph Addai * Kelly Jennings * Mathias Kiwanuka

by knockoutking24 on Nov 14, 2007 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

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