T.R. Sullivan mailbag

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 19, 2007 5:06 PM CST in News

T.R. Sullivan has a new mailbag column up. Only one wacky trade proposal in there, but it is a doozy:

The Mets have holes to fill that the Rangers could help them. If the Rangers packaged Vicente Padilla and Gerald Laird together, they could ask for Lastings Milledge (who is sinking on the Mets' depth charts), pitcher Mike Pelfrey (he might still be a year away, so the Mets could be willing to move him) and pitcher Jorge Sosa. If we had to send Kevin Millwood instead of Padilla, we could up the asking price. Instead of Sosa, the Rangers could ask for reliever Pedro Feliciano or outfielder Carlos Gomez as the third player, or one of their first base prospects as a fourth player.

You know that part in Office Space, when the Bobs describe Peter is a straight shooter with upper management written all over him, and Lundberg says, "Mmmmmm...yeah...I think I'm going to have to disagree with you there..."

That's pretty much my reaction to this proposed trade.

Milledge, Pelfrey and Sosa for Laird and Padilla. Or Milledge, Pelfrey and Gomez for Laird and Millwood.

Yeah.

Some other stuff in there about the Rangers' interest in Tony Clark, Kusoke Fukudome, and Kerry Wood, along with the issues of Torii Hunter's ability to stay productive for five years...

Check it out...

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Sigh

T.R. -- enough is enough.

by inactive lsb user on Nov 19, 2007 4:53 PM CST reply actions

Victor Diaz

DFA'ed to make room for Boggs on the 40-man ...
http://rangers.beloblog.com/archives/2007/11/rangers_set_40man_roster.html

Faces

by shroomer on Nov 19, 2007 4:59 PM CST reply actions

Nice

was hoping we didn't have to expose Boggs.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 19, 2007 5:03 PM CST up reply actions

+1

Git yer guns up...and blow yer head off. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 19, 2007 5:15 PM CST up reply actions

What?

You don't think the Mets' offer brings enough in return for Padilla?

I bet if we throw in Byrd we can get Beltran.

by BAC on Nov 19, 2007 4:59 PM CST reply actions

That is a joke with Padilla but...

The Mets need a catcher and a starter who can eat 200 innings. I think he's on to something with Millwood and Laird. If we could get Milledge and Pelfrey/Gomez, I'd be beyond happy. Opens up some payroll and we get some useful players.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 19, 2007 5:02 PM CST reply actions

Heh I thought

it was highly questionable when it was padilla/laird for milledge straight up, which I would probably do.

then he gave us 2 more guys with some value.

by DShep on Nov 19, 2007 5:09 PM CST reply actions

Sharky?

Why do the Rangers refuse to recognize the importance of pitching? Year in and year out, they seem to address this problem by adding iffy cost-conscience free agents to their Major League roster. Daily, I look to see if they have tried to add the likes of Wilbur Wood, Oil Can Boyd, Bruce Hurst, or Randy Jones to their 40-man roster.
-- Jim G., San Antonio

Is that You Sharky?

"I'd need a picture of Jamey with a shotgun saying "This is my Boomstick!" before I could see that one." DJCahill

by NYTXFAN on Nov 19, 2007 5:10 PM CST reply actions

How about an outfield of...

Crisp, Milledge, Andre Ethier, along with Murphy. Pretty young promising outfield right there and all those guys should be obtainable.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 19, 2007 5:18 PM CST reply actions

At what price though...

Git yer guns up...and blow yer head off. Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Nov 19, 2007 5:25 PM CST up reply actions

Well

Rotoworld suggests Laird and Littleton for Coco. Works for me. They also suggest Francisco and Galaragga for Ethier. The hardest would be Milledge but if the Mets get desperate for a starter, I'd see what I could get for Millwood. Regardless, there seems to be no reason we have to get Tori Hunter and Fukodome types when we have the ammo to to trade for young outfielders. If it was up to me, I'd try to unload Millwood and Padilla, trade some of our bullpen depth and trade Laird.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 19, 2007 5:37 PM CST up reply actions

is there some compelling need for a 30 million pay

payroll and a 60 win season?

if you have no major prospects at a position and need a player, theres nothing wrong with spending some money on a FA to fill that spot.

if all you have to give up is blocked players like laird and clubhouse issues like padilla, ok, but millwood, littleton, young pitching prospects... why trade useful players locked up for other useful players? its going sideways. and I think rotoworld underestimates the trade price for some of these guys. Laird for Coco makes sense because of the roster, but we dont need to just get rid of everyone.

Id rather sign fukudome for 4 years then give up significant prospects for milledge. They may value millwood, but its not like the rangers have 5 pitching prospects better than millwood. I value millwood. If you can sign fukudome and keep millwood + whatever prospect, youve got a SP and OF. if you trade millwood + mid level prospect for milledge, youve got a OF, lower payroll, and one less prospect. hurrah.

by DShep on Nov 19, 2007 6:59 PM CST up reply actions

*although

of course if you can swing a deal for someone like milledge where you think you are winning the talent trade, of course you do it, but im just saying I dont want the rangers to just decide to solve everything through trades and pay high prices.

by DShep on Nov 19, 2007 7:01 PM CST up reply actions

No it's just that...

when you go along and pick up older FA here and there and don't have a core it just doesn't make sense. I rather build a core outfield and infield and then fill in the spots where you can't internally through FA. Right now we have holes at CF, RF/LF, and first. You're not going to be able to fill all those holes through FA without screwing yourself over. As for our pitching, I don't mind Millwood but to me he seems like a waste during a rebuilding year to have around when some contender (Mets) could use him.

I'm not going to complain if we sign for Hunter/Rowand/Jones/Fukudome as long as we try to fill some other holes through trade.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 19, 2007 8:52 PM CST up reply actions

yeah!

Great idea. Let's trade McCarthy while we are at it, maybe Volquez and Wilson too. Everyone knows that pitching just grows on trees out there at the ballpark.

But that river of tears has dried for all of us.

by trza on Nov 19, 2007 8:05 PM CST up reply actions

Hmm not sure where you got the idea...

that I wanted to trade young pitching?

by slimshadty12 on Nov 19, 2007 8:41 PM CST up reply actions

maybe it was specifically mentionin 3 young ones?

frankie francisco, wes littleton, armando galarraga

+whoever it would take to help get milledge.

by DShep on Nov 19, 2007 8:45 PM CST up reply actions

I meant young starters...

We have plenty of Galarraga, Loe, Littleton, Mendoza, Murray etc. types on our staff. There's no reason not to try to get a young outfielder back in return when some of these guys could be blocking each other.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 19, 2007 8:55 PM CST up reply actions

good pitching...

can't be blocked. If you have 1 or 2 good starts you will contiue to go out every fifth day with this team. None of those guys will be able to say they were "blocked" or "didn't get a fair shot" by the time they leave (or stay if they do well).

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 19, 2007 9:03 PM CST up reply actions

None of these guys...

will probably be ML caliber starters. They all can have their place in the bullpen but to me if you can get a ML caliber starting outfielder out of these guys through trade, you do it IMO.

by slimshadty12 on Nov 20, 2007 12:37 AM CST up reply actions

Mets deals...

JD should just ask where he needs to sign if the Mets put either of those deals on the table. I just don't see the Mets doing it though. Man has Milledge lost some value. I remember when he was basically untouchable.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 19, 2007 5:31 PM CST reply actions