Bill Conlin, crotchety old man
If you've ever seen "The Sports Reporters," you've seen Bill Conlin, singlehandedly trying to perpetuate every negative stereotype about traditional sportswriters.
And he's in fine form over the holidays.
He had a column defending the selection of Jimmy Rollins as MVP, which is analyzed by FJM in their usual fashion. Most notable is Conlin's ranting about how statheads think Range Factor is more important than fielding percentage, even though true statheads haven't used RF since the mid-90s.
Better yet, though, is his exchange with a blogger (who is a Philly fan) who wants to know why Rollins is a better choice than David Wright. Conlin's emails consist of blogger bashing and general insults about his correspondent being a bitter Mets fan, and concludes with this brilliance:
Ummmm...okay.
It will be interesting to see how his corporate overlords react...
Update [2007-11-23 20:23:27 by Adam J. Morris]: -- Deadspin has the story, and it is worth checking out if only for the comments. My favorite: "Bill Conlin lives in the Oscar Meyer weinermobile."
That made me laugh out loud for a good 15-20 seconds. In fact, I'm giggling again as I type this...
Update [2007-11-24 1:16:1 by Adam J. Morris]: -- This thread got out of control, and personal info was published, which shouldn't have been. Comments are disabled now.
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What a moron.
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
by ksf42001 on Nov 23, 2007 6:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what a asshole...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Think before they speak?
People get offended so easily. We have a country of whiners, bitchers, and cry-babies. Get over it. I'm sure none of you would be offended if an architect compared a crappy design to Pearl Harbor, and I doubt the OP would start a new thread on it. Just because some looney old man bashes blogs and stats everybody starts welling up.
If the guy's a fool, let him be a fool. It doesn't affect you. And before anybody brings up the obvious point--no, it doesn't even affect those people who survived/died in the holocaust. Sorry, it's just a stupid old man spouting off. Move on.
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"My stamp of approval"
Maybe some day you will grow up. If you had went through the Holocaust or Pearl Harbor you wouldn't be bitching and whining about other people bitching and whining.
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bad grammar
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
believe me...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brett...
Anyway, as for the Nazi thing, I'd point to Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law). Generally speaking, it's a poor analogy or metaphor to make in just about every situation.
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I know it's hard to read everything before you oh-so-smugly set me straight, but it would really help so that you don't seem like a total douche who calls someone out while being completely off-base himself.
Thanks again, though, and I'll keep your useless comments in mind. Keep up the funny.
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You really don't get it do you?
I really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt when you first started posting, but you just keep opening your mouth and inserting your own foot, oh well.
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You got me slc
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See...
I went back and read the Sabean thread before I posted so I could have some context. The reason that I posted the Godwin link was that I hoped you would pick up on the subtext, which is that grabbing for an obvious and hyperbolic analogy like Hitler or 9/11 is a poor communication technique. Your example in the previous thread was comparing poor architecture to Pearl Harbor... the problem there isn't that the comparison is offensive, though, to a certain extent, it is. The problem is that a reasonable reader will pick up on the inappropriate nature of the comparison and it will hurt your argument, in addition to the fact that when comparisons to 9/11 or Hitler et al are commonplace an unnecessary, it diminishes the impact of those comparisons when they are actually warranted.
Listen, your continued comments aren't really helping your case any. Judging from your appearance in so many signatures lately, I don't think there's been this kind of consensus on Lonestarball since Mark Derosa.
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
P.S. I couldn't care less about how many signatures I'm in or not in.
P.P.S. Go back to SA and babble your pseudo-intellectual crap there. At least they'd appreciate it. Or just give me a new link to demonstrate how many hours you've wasted online instead of contributing to society. Thanks.
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Contributing to society?
And, yes, I did read the threads. You're defending the use of the analogies... I'm commenting on their use, I never accused you of using them yourself.
Oh, Brett, you look so cute with your hackles up.
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 9:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm
Perhaps you should grow up before you suggest I do.
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you want to tell me...
Just suggesting that if you calm down you'll probably engage in some productive discussions here... but judging from your track record so far, you're not going to.
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 10:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't be happier
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The question is
by Brett Perryman on Nov 23, 2007 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It must be very shallow
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your opinons and sound-offs
by Brett Perryman on Nov 23, 2007 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So maybe
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So maybe...
See? That's pretty much the same statement, but it really doesn't make much sense read that way, does it?
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The last time
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I tried the benefit of the doubt...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then stop saying shit...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it was pretty shallow
by Brett Perryman on Nov 23, 2007 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vindicated!
by Brian Thomas on Nov 23, 2007 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that was in response to Brett...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I know
by Brett Perryman on Nov 23, 2007 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a full time job?!
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure you're not...
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
blonde hair?
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But is it cute
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nonetheless?
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Searching myspace...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=66848613
You sure that little bio you provided was accurate?
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
now that shit is funny
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's your info on myspace...
Texas Tech University
Lubbock,Texas
Graduated: N/A
Degree: Bachelor's Degree
Major: Political Science
Minor: Philosophy
2005 to Present
Newman Smith H S
Carrollton,Texas
Graduated: 2005
Student status: Alumni
Degree: High School Diploma
Don't see the grad school or law school or graduation yet, but maybe you just haven't updated ina while?
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Umm it takes about 10 seconds
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait Wait!
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this took an ugly turn
by ab03 on Nov 23, 2007 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or...
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they do
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And someone else
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But I've already admitted to it
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh so just myspace
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I find this picture...
Brett, handsome guy, bon vivant, getting choked by some chick... if only she had succeeded...
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't really it...
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't his looks imo
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love your new quote...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so
by ab03 on Nov 23, 2007 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I found you...
After looking at your myspace account, I just feel sorry for you.
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it because you've
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say I abused them...
And I wouldn't call it a personal vendetta, I would call it a little late night entertainment while I work.
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
late night entertainment...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see a hole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXHze2fI09w
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
You don't think that's a little sad?
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He
Party at my house, duh...
by miles on Nov 23, 2007 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I live close to SMU
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently...
by benmor78 on Nov 23, 2007 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See I've conceeded the point
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am
You said you were going to SMU, are you just being sarcastic?
by miles on Nov 23, 2007 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Read this whole thread!
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm being serious...
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so disappointed, Brett Gardner
You still have this guy in your corner:
http://www.gearheadsofwar.com/comments/2007/8/23/0624/29873/14#14
This is too bad. A real shame. I wasn't at all tired of mocking you yet...
by Brian Thomas on Nov 23, 2007 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea...
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I go there
by miles on Nov 23, 2007 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Where do u live?
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We should
by miles on Nov 23, 2007 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No I grew up in Dallas and went to college outside
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, nice...
by miles on Nov 23, 2007 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You might always face that issue
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not grasping context...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2007 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Grown-ups...
If nothing else you are amusing.
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did finally come around...
by slc ranger on Nov 23, 2007 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
by Sobetan610 on Nov 23, 2007 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Al Sharpton insisting this guy
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 6:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
I think the closest equivalent would be what happened in DC a week or so ago with a WaPo reporter:
by ksf42001 on Nov 23, 2007 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The traditional
The curtain's off, the wizard exposed. "Traditional", "Mainstream", supposedly "Objective", call it what you will, the media has been exposed for the intellectually snobbish morons they are.
by ncrangerman on Nov 23, 2007 6:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
And he's stupid enough to do it via email.
What an embarrassment.
by Brian Thomas on Nov 23, 2007 7:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Conlin
- the Hitler comment
- his acting like a three-year-old
- his taunting of the blogger for being a bitter Mets' fan, when the blogger mentions in two separate e-mails that he's a Phillies fan
- comparing bloggers to Colonial pamphleteers as an intended insult, forgetting the importance of Thomas Paine's pamphlet "Common Sense" to the American Revolution
Sorry- just because you have a platform with a national publication doesn't make your opinion any more valid than the unwashed masses, especially those masses who, unlike a lot of the "traditional media," bring passion, intelligence, and new ideas to the subject matter at hand.
by RCCook on Nov 23, 2007 7:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think the HItler comment
by Agreen07 on Nov 23, 2007 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really
I'm glad he thinks his career (ergo status) should be compared to bloggers. Another "if he only knew ....."
by Ed Coffin on Nov 23, 2007 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not funny
by Sharky on Nov 23, 2007 8:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
David Wright??
Oh, and Fatty McFattyFat should be fired or something for the Hitler comment.
by Brian Hayes on Nov 23, 2007 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
benmor
by Longhorn on Nov 23, 2007 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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