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Sean Taylor Passes Away!!!!

Don't know what else to say........this kid had ALL the potential in the World........Really Really Sad..........

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hmmm
maybe we can trade them Roy Williams for a 12 pack

by kumar75150 on Nov 27, 2007 5:43 AM CST reply actions  

I guess that's
one less Redskins DB to worry about -- Jayslick
"LSB: accept the losing" - Sharky

by DJCahill on Nov 27, 2007 6:49 AM CST reply actions  

RIP
didnt expect him to die after I initially heard about it.

by DShep on Nov 27, 2007 6:57 AM CST reply actions  

At first
I wasn't concerned either; than I started seeing femoral artey in all the articles, and knew it had to be pretty serious.

This is terrible news regardless of his past behavior.

by BHill on Nov 27, 2007 7:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I was driving
and the radio report made it seem like a very casual incident. (if you can say a shooting is casual)
Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Nov 27, 2007 7:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Sad to hear.
Didnt see that one coming
"I'd need a picture of Jamey with a shotgun saying "This is my Boomstick!" before I could see that one." DJCahill

by NYTXFAN on Nov 27, 2007 6:57 AM CST reply actions  

Truly Sad
No matter how you feel of him as a player it's a shame when a 24 year old is taken away in front of their family.

Prayers go out to his family.  Really sad.

If there is one lawyer in town, he goes broke. If there are two, they both get rich

by Taylor on Nov 27, 2007 7:35 AM CST reply actions  

I feel
the exact same way.  I cannot believe it was so serious.  My thoughts and prayers go out to his family, friends, and Redskin teammates.  

by the other dierk in dallas on Nov 28, 2007 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Just sad
I will be praying for his family.  And for those a$$holes that were joking about this in an earlier diary, shame on you.
Why can't we be friends?

by Agreen07 on Nov 27, 2007 7:43 AM CST reply actions  

Even
this diary seems a bit odd.  Are those exclamation marks necessary?  And who cares about his potential?  These people aren't defined by their careers.  He's a man and a father who was gunned down in his own house and we can only hope that the responsible party is swiftly brought to justice.

by brettgardner on Nov 27, 2007 8:04 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed BG
Why can't we be friends?

by Agreen07 on Nov 27, 2007 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I think
the exclamation marks might be due to the shock that he went so quickly, and based on the fact that early reports (at least the ones I heard) did not speak to the seriousness.
Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Nov 27, 2007 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

They all said he was in serious
condition...what are you talking about?
Why can't we be friends?

by Agreen07 on Nov 27, 2007 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

shot in his leg
reports that he regained consciousness enough to squeeze the nurse's hand.  i thought he would pull through

by ab03 on Nov 27, 2007 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...
and my original comment wasn't even about that.  At that point, I understood how serious it was, based on how he was barely responding.  But the first news I heard of it was just that he was shot, not that he was in critical condition.
Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Nov 27, 2007 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

It was a random radio report
on a local radio station here in Florida.  That particular news briefing, did not report it with a very serious tone.

They basically said he was shot in the leg in his Miami home, without mentioning his condition.  I'm sure if I read an AP report I would have known better, but I was on the interstate.

I'm definitely not saying that takes away from what they knew in the beginning, or how serious it was from the beginning... Just telling you what I heard.

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Nov 27, 2007 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

My bad
this is really a non-issue, we shouldn't be arguing....sad that he died so young.
Why can't we be friends?

by Agreen07 on Nov 27, 2007 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed
Sad story, thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Nov 27, 2007 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly
i don't understand how BG and you even made this an issue, considering a guy just died.........

by slash on Nov 27, 2007 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

what?
im glad you figured he was going to die........what the hell has happened to this blog?........

by slash on Nov 27, 2007 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

what the hell?
you got to be kidding me, the guy just died and you're worried about me putting "!!!" at the end, you still pull your bs even after a death........yes it shocked me, I've watched the kid since he was a teenager and i didn't really think he was going to die after the latest reports......it traumatized me in a way...

by slash on Nov 27, 2007 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

and...
about the potential comment.....He's going to be remembered by the majority of the public for playing Football......I don't expect for his family to define him by football, or anybody to define him as a person that way, but this is how he's going to be remembered by the Public, that is just how it is.......

I really don't understand you, go find another thread to find something to bitch about, honestly....what kind of person looks at this as an oppurtunity to complain and bitch about something else???

by slash on Nov 27, 2007 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

No
I think I'll bitch right here, thank you.  I don't take my marching orders from you, slash.  Nobody else does, either.  As a matter of fact, I couldn't care less what you think.  

You had a stupid diary and a real dummy reaction to the situation.  I said my opinion along with others, including yourself.  Stop getting defensive and put more time and thought into your next post.  

by brettgardner on Nov 27, 2007 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

i think the wilbon article sums up the angst
"I know how I feel about Taylor, and this latest news isn't surprising in the least, not to me. Whether this incident is or isn't random, Taylor grew up in a violent world, embraced it, claimed it, loved to run in it and refused to divorce himself from it. He ain't the first and won't be the last. We have no idea what happened, or if what we know now will be revised later. It's sad, yes, but hardly surprising"
-wilbon

what he says is harsh, but i think a lot of people are going with his line of thought.  maybe its a racial bias i cant nail it down, wilbon is black, im not sure a white guy wouldnt get nailed to the wall for saying the same thing.  

.500 or bust!

by Jayslick on Nov 27, 2007 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd sure like to know
how the hell Michael Wilbon knows anything about Sean Taylor's life.  My bet is he doesn't and just goes on the broadly-drawn media picture that makes it easier for dolts like him to attach themselves to an opinion rather than getting those gears turning upstairs.

He is right about one thing though--he has no idea what happened and his petty and elitist reaction serves only to make him look like a fool.

People sicken me.  Nobody--not the worst scumbag in the world--deserves to be burglarized and shot in his home with his little daughter and wife close by.  Society doesn't function very well if we decide that this guy probably deserved it so we don't have to care as much.  Personally, I hope they find the guy(s) who did it and kill them with the same amount of uncaring evil they themselves showed.

by brettgardner on Nov 27, 2007 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

+1
good take.
.500 or bust!

by Jayslick on Nov 27, 2007 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

x
"Nobody--not the worst scumbag in the world--deserves to be burglarized and shot in his home with his little daughter and wife close by."

"Personally, I hope they find the guy(s) who did it and kill them with the same amount of uncaring evil they themselves showed."

Those two sentences contradict each other...

by miles on Nov 27, 2007 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

No
they don't.  I never said that nobody ever deserves to die.  I said nobody deserves to be burglarized and murdered in their home.  The guilty party should have every opportunity to go through the legal system and plead their case, but personally, I hope a guilty verdict is returned and the harshest penalty possible is sentenced.  What I did not say is that I think the police should break into the guy's house in the middle of the night and gun him down.  

Hell, maybe Sean Taylor pissed a lot of guys off.  Maybe some bad ones.  Maybe he should have been more careful.  But to say that it's no surprise and hardly devote a thought to it is ridiculous to me.

ESPN just ran a segment where they pretended to be sad and did their best job to trash the guy, including among his offenses that he hit the punter during the pro-bowl as if that were some kind of ignominious sin.  The guy did his job, and maybe if ESPN did theirs half as well, we wouldn't all be starved for a sports network that didn't have its head 10 feet up its own ass.

by brettgardner on Nov 27, 2007 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Re:
That a lot of people are doing it is no excuse.

Sean Taylor was not a criminal. He did not have a troubled past. He was charged with aggravated assault by an over-eager DA who was later effectively removed from the case. Shortly thereafter, the new DA dropped the aggravated assault charge and Sean Taylor, though protesting while claiming his own innocence, was willing to accept a NO CONTEST plea (like you do with traffic tickets) to misdemeanor simple battery and misdemeanor simple assault. The defining elements of those crimes are the LACK of a weapon and the LACK of serious injury to the "victim" who in this case happened to be a guy that robbed Sean Taylor.

Regarding the DUI attempt, one judge dismissed the charge outright after watching the roadside sobriety test. The Refusal to Take a Breathalizer charge was dropped on APPEAL by Sean Taylor after another judge concluded that the arresting officer lacked probable cause.

Outside those two incidents, there isn't any reporting going on of Sean Taylor "embrac[ing]" a violent world outside his passionate play on the field that frequently got him in trouble with the league. But you can't just substitute spitting incidents and hard hits on the field as evidence that he "refused to divorce himself from" a violent past. It is a game, albeit a violent one, and Sean Taylor played it correctly.

by Skin Patrol @ Lone Star Ball on Nov 28, 2007 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Good
point, this is different from just arguing points on sports.  I could not agree more.  Thanks for all the people that are trying to seperate the two.

by the other dierk in dallas on Nov 28, 2007 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Im an asshole
ill admit it.  shitty thing to do.  sad for his family.  
.500 or bust!

by Jayslick on Nov 27, 2007 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

see
now I do feel bad...
"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Nov 27, 2007 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

Always weird
to hear about someone dying who is the same age as yourself.

by Wes Cox on Nov 27, 2007 10:28 AM CST reply actions  

This is also strange:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-obit-taylor&prov=ap&type=lgns

"Police found signs of forced entry, but have not determined if they were caused Monday or during the previous burglary.

The shooting happened in the pale yellow house Taylor bought two years ago. In last week's break-in, police said someone pried open a front window, rifled through drawers and left a kitchen knife on a bed.

"They're really sifting through that incident and today's incident," Miami-Dade Detective Mario Rachid said, "to see if there's any correlation."

Why did he have his family still in that home? He had the financial means to relocate them temporarily, obviously. The knife on the bed thing, I guess, could be nothing, but it also very well could be some sort of sinister message, especially since nothing was stolen.

My wife would demand we leave, especially if we had a young child. Jesus, at the very least, I'd have a alot more than a machet by the bed.

This really puzzles me. When he was rehabbing in Washington, were his wife and child at his FLA. home?

Brett Gardner broke my heart...

by Brian Thomas on Nov 27, 2007 11:01 AM CST reply actions  

machete
hope nobody thinks of this as me second guessing him, but really, nobody in the future should try to ward off assailants with a machete - I don't care if you're rambo incarnate.

by ab03 on Nov 27, 2007 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

there's a reason he wasnt using a gun
"Taylor endured a yearlong legal battle after he was accused in 2005 of brandishing a gun at a man during a fight over allegedly stolen all-terrain vehicles near Taylor's home. He eventually pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to 18 months' probation."
.500 or bust!

by Jayslick on Nov 27, 2007 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

the alternative shouldnt' be machete
it should be running as fast as you an out the door with your wife and kids.  or, failing that, not being there at all.

by ab03 on Nov 27, 2007 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

sinister message
"The knife on the bed thing, I guess, could be nothing, but it also very well could be some sort of sinister message, especially since nothing was stolen."

yeah, the knife laid on the bed is pretty telling, plus the fact that he was shot at close range in the leg.  Hate to speculate, but it seems the motive was something other than burglary or murder.

Some professionals get better with age and experience. Lawyers, professors, engineers. Hookers? Not so much. -- DJ Cahill

by tricer on Nov 27, 2007 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.
It almost has a "fatal attraction" air to it.  It will be interesting to see what surfaces during the investigation.

by Athos on Nov 27, 2007 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

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