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OT - Atlanta Falcons

Sorry to hijack the diary thread for a topic as unrelated to the Rangers as the Falcons, but I wanted to find out if anyone here feels that there are fans of any team that have it worse off than Falcons fans.

The latest:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3150783

Damn...I sure know how to pick crappy teams to follow.

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Sadly...
...I am right there with you. Falcons/Rangers combo is not exactly the Cowboys/Yankees.

by atlantaranger on Dec 11, 2007 5:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Starting Over Again
Thinking half full:

Get a new coach. Petrino was making no friends and had big contract. Now, I suspect we see an up and comer coordinator who knows the Pro Game (it was good for a while with Mora, I guess). I would bet on a minority hire.

Get some cap room. If the Vick money is paid back, that's a bunch of dough to spend.

Early 1st round pick. Seemed a lock to take Brohm. Guess that is blown up now.

Heck, we even have a 1,000 yard WR. Good TE. Good potential RB.

Hell, this is a load. Birds are pretty bad. But hopefully it can't get worse.

by atlantaranger on Dec 11, 2007 6:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"up and comer coordinator "
Jason Garrett will be mentioned often and likely won't be returning as OC.

Sign him as HC, draft Brohm, blow the rest of the team up and rebuild.

T.R. -- enough is enough.

by Chase Irwin on Dec 11, 2007 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Garrett
I'm sure he's going to be mentioned.

Cowher will be rumored, but I don't know if he'd really sign on to caoach this mess (although I think he'd get a real shot at having complete control to build from scratch).

Keep:

Roddy White
Jerious Norwood
Michael Boley
Chris Houston
John Abraham
Jamaal Anderson

Blow the rest up.

by tlt29 on Dec 11, 2007 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Garrett
can not go there.  That is a job, that will hang over you for years, it might be the only one.

by the other dierk in dallas on Dec 11, 2007 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me ask you this
if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl and Jason Garrett is offered a head coaching job, think the Cowboys will fire Wade and give the HC job to Garrett?  Or would we let Garrett go?
Your Texas Rangers...2007-Playing for the Future, 2010-Playing for the Future, 2013-Playing for the Future, 2017-Playing for the Future

by Agreen07 on Dec 11, 2007 6:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Garrett
I think Garrett will be highly sought after, but think about it for a second.  Jerry isn't going to lose his guy, he knows how important he is to the team's future.  He's going to sit Jason down, explain to him that he's the coach of the future, and throw a boatload of cash at him to make sure he stays patient.  Garrett is a bright guy, and knows he still has a thing or two to learn about running a team.  The guy was a Quarterbacks coach last year, afterall.  Besides, who would you rather coach The Dallas Cowboys in their new stadium, or the Falcons that are currently in shambles?  I'm not too concerned about it, really.

by TheBZA on Dec 11, 2007 9:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats what i would hope jerry does
phillips is 60 and signed a 3 year deal.

i would think if the cowboys do well the next 2 that jerry could/would buy phillips out and replace him w/ garrett.

well i would HOPE. then again jones did run jimmy johnson off...and brought on chan gailey and dave campo (at least campo owned the redskins...lol)

by knockoutking24 on Dec 11, 2007 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought
it was a 2 year deal...
Looking forward to the Milton Bradley show this season...

by miles on Dec 11, 2007 11:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Dolphins
have been to 5 superbowls and won 2 of them. Even though they're sucking this year, that's not really an apt comparison.
Words! Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears!

by Escher on Dec 12, 2007 12:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Man
You couldn't go Cowboys/Braves?  Seems like that'd be the smart thing to do...

by a bebop a rebop on Dec 11, 2007 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Petrino/Saban
Both do not understand the whole idea behind a contract.

If Michael Vick never gets arrested, does Petrino stay?

There is just something so slimy and wrong about both departures.

by cmkelly29 on Dec 11, 2007 6:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Does Petrino stay?
Likely.
T.R. -- enough is enough.

by Chase Irwin on Dec 11, 2007 6:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good...
...but old. And not nearly as good as he used to be.

by tlt29 on Dec 11, 2007 8:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Petrino
should be fired simply for stupid coaching decisions

pulling harrington (whe he was doing good) only to have leftwich get hurt and have to put harrington back in the line up

and giving carries to dunn that SHOULD have been going to norwood.

the kid is averaging 6.2 YPC (.1 ahead of peterson) over 75 carries.

with guys over 50 carries, below him is selvin young at 5.7, correll buckhalter at 5.3, chester taylor at 5.3, ronnie brown at 5.1, jason campbell at 5.1, marion barber at 5.0

the guy doesnt have over 9 carries in any game

carries by game:
5, 9, 6, 9, 6, 6, 6, 6, 0 (sprained ankle), 2, 6, 8, 6

quote from petrino
Coach Bobby Petrino said after Sunday's game that the reason Warrick Dunn has dominated the backfield this year is because of his reliability. (this is after dunn had 10 carries for 17 yards vs norwood's 8 for 94 and had 3 catches for 21 yards)

last year the guy averaged 6.4 YPC over 99 rushes. give him a chance!

wow. the falcons also have yet to score over 16 pts in a game...they are avg'ing 14.2 pts/game. so much for his vaunted offense...

by knockoutking24 on Dec 11, 2007 9:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who called plays in ATL?
Was it Petrino?

That's what I'd be curious to know.

A lot of times these offensive gurus may not actually call plays. Then they are at the mercy of their OC's, who may be crappy.

Not following teams directly, it's often hard to tell who's calling plays.

If you can get a head coach who is a good offensive mind who calls plays though, that's the ideal situation. I'd have been interested if Petrino was that guy, and actually failed in ATL. I suspect he doesn't call plays. Then when he went to ATL he prolly picked up some crappy OC, where he had a good one in college.

It's possible also they just had a poor defense+adjustment period.

Petrino sure cut and ran quick..

by Sharky on Dec 11, 2007 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Found this...
I'm not sure if they org actually followed through with this but...

ATLANTA -- Wasting no time in starting to assemble his staff, new Atlanta Falcons coach Bobby Petrino has hired Hue Jackson as his offensive coordinator.

Jackson, 41, served as the Cincinnati Bengals wide receivers coach the past three seasons.

Petrino said Monday, during his introductory press conference, that he will call the plays, just as he did during his four years as the Louisville head coach. Jackson, though, figures to have considerable input into game preparation and, as coordinator, will interact with quarterback Michael Vick

btw, DeAngelo Hall just slammed Petrino on Sportscenter.

by cmkelly29 on Dec 11, 2007 10:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Petrino called the plays
Hue Jackson was listed as the OC, but in reality, Petrino was the OC, and he most certainly called the plays.

I missed Hall on Sportscenter...what was said?

by tlt29 on Dec 11, 2007 11:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh
Well, assuming Petrino is a good OC, he prolly shoulda waited it out.

A lotta times it takes a year to catch on.

Plus the defense prolly sucked, and that's half the equation.

by Sharky on Dec 11, 2007 11:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Worldwide Leader, getting nasty
I'm not sure that I've ever seen something like this get through the WWL editors before.  From Pat Forde:

"Bobby Petrino will return your embrace, Hog fans. But while he's hugging you he'll be looking over your shoulder, scanning the terrain for his next hook-up.

"Even in a profession rife with dishonest posturing, Petrino is singularly mercenary. Loyalty, allegiance, commitment and honesty are foreign concepts to him. It must be a sad existence."

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=3151061&sportCat=ncf

by abc123 on Dec 12, 2007 1:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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