Official Mitchell Report List

by RangerMoto on Dec 13, 2007 3:40 PM CST Comment 34 comments

This would appear to be the official aggregated list:

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/mitchells-list/

A TON of ex-Giants & A's, which would be expected. The names that jump out at me and made me point and laugh: Kevin Brown, Dykstra, Gagne, Ankiel, FP Santangelo, Stanton.

I was sort of hoping for a really big sleeper name like Ripken or Gwynn or Jeter or Sandberg. But obviously exclusion from this list doesn't indicate innocence.

Chad Allen
Manny Alexander
Rick Ankiel
Mike Bell
David Bell
Gary Bennett Jr.
Marvin Bernard
Larry Bigbie
Barry Bonds
Kevin Brown
Paul Byrd
Ken Caminiti
Jose Canseco
Mark Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Howie Clark
Roger Clemens
Jack Cust
Brendan Donnelly
Lenny Dykstra
Bobby Estalella
Matt Franco
Ryan Franklin
Eric Gagne
Jason Giambi
Jeremi Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Darren Holmes
Todd Hundley
David Justice
Chuck Knoblauch
Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan
Josias Manzanillo
Gary Matthews Jr.
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris
David Naulty
Denny Neagle
Jim Parque
Andy Pettitte
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt
Stephen Randolph
Adam Riggs
Brian Roberts
John Rocker
F.P. Santangelo
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Scott Schoeneweis
David Segui
Mike Stanton
Miguel Tejada
Ismael Valdez
Mo Vaughn
Randy Velarde
Ron Villone
Fernando Vina
Rondell White
Todd Williams
Jeff Williams
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard
Kevin Young
Gregg Zaun

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No Sosa or McGwire

that to me is a shocker(a small one at least).

by Parman on Dec 13, 2007 3:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I know

that their names are mentioned in the report, but they may already viewed as guilty, at least McGwire anyway. I too am surprised the Sosa omission.

Ephesians 1:3-10

by kwellborn on Dec 13, 2007 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

espn.com

has a list of the players, sorted by the different cases that implicated them, here

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Dec 13, 2007 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Julio

Glad to see Julio Franco's name not on this list. Sure did like that guy when he was a Ranger. Love the fact he's still playing.

by mc80aea on Dec 13, 2007 3:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Franco

I've always understood Steroids to lead to a batter's physical breakdown more quickly. Based on that idea, I'm not surprised Franco, Henderson or even Lofton have played late into their 30s and into their 40's.

by markaholden on Dec 13, 2007 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually

HGH actually helps you stay young longer.

by badradiorules on Dec 13, 2007 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

example

that steroids don't work: Jerry Hairston Jr.

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 13, 2007 3:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not necessarily.

For JHJ, steroids might have meant the difference between a career in the minors and a shot at the big leagues. Steroids aren't going to automatically make a fringe guy a stud. You still have to have the underlying ability. As seen with Bonds, it can make a 40 HR guy a 70 HR guy, but it's not going to produce those results for a guy like Chad Allen or JHJ.

by Athos on Dec 13, 2007 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

True

I am not surprised at the age of some of the players on the list. I think the biggest benefit may be the longevity it provides. Clemens probably would not have hung on long enough to reach 300 wins if it wasn't for juice.

Ephesians 1:3-10

by kwellborn on Dec 13, 2007 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Funny Stuff

I have to say I am pretty happy with the report. No Ripken, no Ryan, Griffey, Blalock, Young or Salts. The big name guys are not guys that I have liked and I have always been suspicious of (not sure which happened first). Love that Hairston and GMJuiced are on there.

Little disappointed that Barajas and Sosa didn't make the list.

Ephesians 1:3-10

by kwellborn on Dec 13, 2007 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The fact that players

weren't on the list doesn't mean they were innocent. The names on the list primarily come from just 2 trainers.

"As of now they're (The Astros) world series favorites. Period." - Sharky

by DJCahill on Dec 13, 2007 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

that doesn't change the fact that I like this list. I will get a knot in my stomach again in about six months or whenever the next "big break in the steroid scandal" comes out. But I still like this list.

Ephesians 1:3-10

by kwellborn on Dec 13, 2007 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

From

what I understand there could be up to 25 more names to surface. Is what everyone else is hearing? I have been at work and have only looked into this for 30 minutes or so.

Ephesians 1:3-10

by kwellborn on Dec 13, 2007 3:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Names

Mitchell only listed names that he could corroborate or where he otherwise had clear evidence (like copies of checks the players used to purchase PEDs). He mentions that he left out some names because he didn't have enough proof. He also specifies that some names could not be listed due to confidentiality agreements. I'm not sure how many other players he has info on but decided to not print for whatever reason.

Derek

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Dec 13, 2007 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

FP Santangelo

He's on a morning sports talk show out here in Sacramento. Can't wait to hear what he says on Friday morning.

by tlt29 on Dec 13, 2007 3:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wow

That's going to be fun. I can't wait to see/hear ESPN analyst Fernando Vina.

"People hated Jackie Robinson because he was black. People hate Barry Bonds because he's a cheating douchebag." -- Lewis Black

by ghtd36 on Dec 13, 2007 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't see Ms. Chase Irwin on the list?

there has to be some explanation for those tiny balls...* giggle *

"Take this offer and shove it !!" Hunter,Gagne, Jones, Fuku

by LAMuscleFag on Dec 13, 2007 4:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Direct Quote from John Kruk

"Just because you purchased steroids doesn't mean you used them."

Right, Krukie. Right.

"People hated Jackie Robinson because he was black. People hate Barry Bonds because he's a cheating douchebag." -- Lewis Black

by ghtd36 on Dec 13, 2007 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Again

Why isn't the government not going after Sheffield like they are Bonds?

by Longhorn on Dec 13, 2007 4:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Well

Bonds lied to the feds...Sheffield and Giambi didn't. That's the difference.

by slimshadty12 on Dec 13, 2007 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No

Sheffield lied too.

by Longhorn on Dec 13, 2007 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

To

the feds?

by slimshadty12 on Dec 16, 2007 2:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The government is out to get Bonds

Bonds is not a good man, and he probably cheated, but the truth is that the government wants Bonds punished, period.

"People hated Jackie Robinson because he was black. People hate Barry Bonds because he's a cheating douchebag." -- Lewis Black

by ghtd36 on Dec 13, 2007 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I wish....

CNN would post a high-res version of that image so i could use it as my wallpaper

by TheBZA on Dec 13, 2007 4:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

bottom left pic

i think its juangone is a scary ass picture lol

by knockoutking24 on Dec 13, 2007 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That is...

John Rocker. And yes, it is scary.

by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 13, 2007 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's Rocker

Fire Todd Dodge.

by sprite on Dec 13, 2007 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Did Mitchell...

...contact you, BGL? Or anyone you know about? I don't want names...just curious what his process was for contacting players.

"Suppose that climate change is not real and all we do is adopt green technologies...then all we've done is given our kids a cleaner world." -John McCain

by RangerMoto on Dec 13, 2007 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

interesting...

...yeah, of course there's very little reason to guess that any of the younger Rangers were using PEDs since there's been random testing in the minors for a while now.

Thanks for the insight.

"Suppose that climate change is not real and all we do is adopt green technologies...then all we've done is given our kids a cleaner world." -John McCain

by RangerMoto on Dec 13, 2007 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

random observation...

There was a lot of noise made earlier in the year by Ozzie Guillen (silly Ozzie...) about how a disproportionate amount of the players failing drug tests were latin.

Now that the Mitchell Report is out, you now see a notable lack of latin players on the list.

Does anybody think the Mitchell group was too closed minded in their investigation to consider alternative means of getting steroids (other than internet/balco/etc) that would be available to someone from a less medically-rigorous country.

It's just something to caught my eye that I thought may have been overlooked, my internal devil's advocate.

by ksf42001 on Dec 13, 2007 5:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Mitchell

had about 3 or 4 smoking guns that were willing to provide full cooperation including documumentation to serve as evidence. All of those witnesses had some motive to cooperate, as they were already in trouble. I think he tried to max out those witnesses and call it a day.

If MLB wants him to investigate and report on the steroid/hgh connections in Mexico and Latin America - well, that will probably cost another $30 million and then some.

Some professionals get better with age and experience. Lawyers, professors, engineers. Hookers? Not so much. -- DJ Cahill

by tricer on Dec 13, 2007 6:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs