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Fraley silliness

Gerry Fraley has a new column up, with his HOF votes.  He votes for Jack Morris, but also for Bert Blyleven, so I'll leave that alone.

However, he passes on Tim Raines, with this explanation:

Raines' case was hurt by his reluctance to run in all situations, as Rickey Henderson did. Raines seemed at times too concerned about preserving his stolen-base percentage.

Raines is 5th in MLB history in stolen bases, so I find it odd that he's getting knocked for not running enough.

But even more bizarre is that Fraley's complaint isn't just that Raines didn't run enough...it is that he didn't run enough in situations where there was a good chance he would get thrown out.

So...Raines might be, in Fraley's mind, a Hall of Famer, if he had just run more often in bad percentage situations.

Gotcha.

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seriously after seeing some of these guys writing about their ballots i think they need to reconsider who gets hof votes.

the logic some of these guys use is just amazing.

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by rentz on Dec 29, 2007 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

No doubt
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by boomer1 on Dec 29, 2007 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow!!!
All you can do is laugh at that garbage.
The Texas Rangers rounded the bases at a dizzying pace

by fsujon on Dec 29, 2007 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

baseball HOF is a joke
writers are a joke

Great baseball players are great and reasonable people know who they are...

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Dec 29, 2007 10:09 PM CST reply actions  

Crap like this is why
...we should consider ourselves fortunate that the DMN bought out Fraley's contract.

by jamcadbury on Dec 29, 2007 10:13 PM CST reply actions  

Him and Heyman
It's almost as if writers taunt us with shitty "reasoning" just to get some discussion. The HoF is a joke because writers are the inductors. I've always wanted to go to Cooperstown; now, not so much.
"When I was a pup, we got spanked by presidents 'til the cows came home! Grover Cleveland spanked me on two non-consecutive occasions!" LBrooks

by WyoRanger on Dec 30, 2007 2:25 AM CST reply actions  

Raines
Fraley's argument is stupid, but I don't think Raines is a Hall of Famer.

by Darrell McKown on Dec 30, 2007 12:02 PM CST reply actions  

Raines
I just don't think he was quite good enough to be a Hall of Famer.

I put him more in the category of players like Jim Rice and Andre Dawson, who shouldn't be in either, than guys like Dave Winfield, Tony Gwynn, and Rickey Henderson, or are or will be.

by Darrell McKown on Dec 30, 2007 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd put...
...Raines and Gwynn at about equal, I think...

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 30, 2007 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

that's about fair
i guess.  though i'd give gwynn the edge on ambassador/fame.

i think if people hear that, at first they're surprised, but if you look at the simple numbers...gwynn really only has him beat on singles.

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by gossamer on Dec 31, 2007 1:15 AM CST up reply actions  

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