Potential Tigers/Marlins blockbuster

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 4, 2007 11:59 AM CST in News Comment 24 comments

Not sure whether this is just a ruse by the Marlins to smoke out the Angels and Dodgers, or if this is legit...

But Ken Rosenthal says the Marlins and Tigers are talking about a potential blockbuster that would send Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to the Tigers, in exchange for a package of young players that would (according to Rosenthal) presumably include Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller.

Given the Marlins' demands thusfar, it seems like there would have to be a lot more going from Detroit to Florida as part of this deal, and I'm not sure that the Tigers have enough pieces to get a deal done (remember, Rick Porcello can't be traded until August, 2008, so he can't be included).

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Can PTBNL

work to hold off until August 2008, or is there some timeframe that the player has to be named and exchanged?

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Dec 4, 2007 11:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Nope

6 months.

Conceivably, they could agree to the trade now, but not make it official until February whatever, and include Porcello as a PTBNL then.

But I don't see that happening.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 4, 2007 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree in principle

pending some really long physicals.

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Dec 4, 2007 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

6 months

is the deadline.

Tomorrow Never Knows

by t ball on Dec 4, 2007 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybin and Miller...

is a good start. If they included Jurrjens or maybe Tata and (1B) Larrish, I would think that would be enough. D-Train has a lot of question marks.

Maybin + Miller > Adenhart + Wood

by HaegerChamp on Dec 4, 2007 11:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Jurrjens

He's a Brave now.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 4, 2007 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Stupid Scout.com

thanks AJM. Tata's probably not rated near as high.

by HaegerChamp on Dec 4, 2007 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

BUT

Adenhart and Wood is just for Miguel.

What can Willis fetch on his own? Could Willis on his own make up the difference of Maybin/Miller and Adenhart/Wood???

by Coolbean04 on Dec 4, 2007 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Willis

more than makes up that difference. Which is why the Tigers would need to include more. Do Rayburn or Thames have any value? They seem to be without jobs in DET. Zumaya or Rodney?

by HaegerChamp on Dec 4, 2007 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

The Marlins should jump at that. It sounds like the Tigers are going for it, as a team in their position should.

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by Ajax on Dec 4, 2007 12:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I personally

would rather see Adenhart and Wood with other prospects for Miguel and then trade Willis to the Yanks for Hughes and others (if Boston gets Santana).

They would have a stacked system and Adenhart and Hughes would be huge for their future.

by Coolbean04 on Dec 4, 2007 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

i don't think...

the Yanks would part with Hughes for Willis. But i DO think splitting the two would get them more in return.

by HaegerChamp on Dec 4, 2007 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yankees

They wouldn't have to part with Hughes. They could get Willis for Eric Duncan.

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by Ajax on Dec 4, 2007 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Porcello

Could be added as a PTBNL, right?

If so, those players and some cash would be a great trade for both teams.

by 3Bagger on Dec 4, 2007 1:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oops

I just saw the answer above. Sorry.

by 3Bagger on Dec 4, 2007 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

FWIW

Angels will meet about Santana:

http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/SoxBlog/archives/2007/12/update_angels_j.html

by hightowersmith on Dec 4, 2007 2:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Angels

The Western Evil Empire

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by Ajax on Dec 4, 2007 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Buster Olney

Mentions that as well.
I don't think the Angels would have any issues locking Santana up long term. With all they've done to try and improve the team, he would have to be very willing...

Plus, remember the talks about how Santana would be interested in following Hunter? I don't have any link on that.

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Dec 4, 2007 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Bedard News

From Amy Nelson (espn.com winter meetings blog):
Potential deal: Bedard goes to the Dodgers, and Matt Kemp and Jonathan Broxton head over to the Orioles.

I've liked Broxton from what I've seen of him, that's a decent haul, but I wonder how much more the O's could get for Bedard.

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Dec 4, 2007 2:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Amy Nelson

Super duper cute.

by hightowersmith on Dec 4, 2007 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not much

Look at what the Twins may get for Santana. Teams just aren't that willing to trade their young guys anymore, no matter who you dangle in front of them.

Fire Ron Washington

by pblack on Dec 4, 2007 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs