Bye bye, Freddy Guzman

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 5, 2007 5:22 PM CST in News

T.R. Sullivan says the Rangers have traded Freddy Guzman for a PTBNL.

Given that the trade has happened on the eve of the Rule 5 draft, I have to wonder if the Rangers have targeted someone they want to grab there...

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any names

of people you think they may target?

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 5:13 PM CST reply actions

Brian Barton leaps to mind

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 5, 2007 5:18 PM CST up reply actions

Or...

D'Antona.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Dec 5, 2007 5:36 PM CST up reply actions

what would the rangers do with dantona

1b? doubt he would stick

by ab03 on Dec 5, 2007 5:45 PM CST up reply actions

play

against lefties

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

great

except he's a lot worse against lefties

by ab03 on Dec 5, 2007 5:55 PM CST up reply actions

oh

I didn't take the time to look at his splits. I just assumed. My bad.

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 5:56 PM CST up reply actions

never mind

looked up the wrong guy's stats

by ab03 on Dec 5, 2007 5:57 PM CST up reply actions

beware park factors

when looking at D'Antona's stats.

BP has Tucson with park factor of 1070 over the last 3 years. Viewed though that lens, his stats look pretty fringy for a 1B.

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by tricer on Dec 5, 2007 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

i think it will be him

swap one OF prospect for another. although, to be fair, i don't see how he would stick either

by ab03 on Dec 5, 2007 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

What team?

by RangerMad on Dec 5, 2007 5:15 PM CST reply actions

That's my question

The PTBNL could be any one of probably thousands now.

by Inkara1 on Dec 5, 2007 5:21 PM CST up reply actions

I like that

Hey Freddie: you've been traded. Where? One of the other 29 teams. For who? We don't know yet. Could be anyone.

by JBImaknee on Dec 5, 2007 5:24 PM CST up reply actions

fast freddy

traded to detroit

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Dec 5, 2007 7:25 PM CST up reply actions

Lubanski ...

kinda slumped, but tons of potential

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 5:21 PM CST reply actions

I've liked him

for awhile.

by brettgardner on Dec 5, 2007 5:24 PM CST up reply actions

still really young too.

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 5:25 PM CST up reply actions

I wonder

if they did it to move up in the draft.

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 5:23 PM CST reply actions

I've

seen Jeff Allison's name thrown around. Did he come back to pitch last year? Or is he still out with "personal" issues?

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 5:28 PM CST reply actions

*in addition,

his name was not connected to the Rangers. Just mentioned.

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 5:29 PM CST up reply actions

Allison too. Of course this organization recently showed how much it enjoys carrying a pitcher who isn't yet ready. On the other hand, it does appear that they are more realistic about their chances this year than 2006.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 5, 2007 5:57 PM CST up reply actions

He has the

potential to be an impact player, but he has lots of baggage.

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 6:24 PM CST up reply actions

Detroit Tigers

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 5:51 PM CST reply actions

Needed a AAA OFer...

after trading Maybin?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 5, 2007 6:06 PM CST up reply actions

the way i understand it

there was no need for the rangers to open up a roster spot on the 40 for the Rule V right? And, I would think the Rangers pick higher than the Tigers in the Rule V. So, does this really have Rule V implications?

by ab03 on Dec 5, 2007 6:08 PM CST reply actions

possible relationship

is there anyone that Detroit left off their 40 that they may be sending us? The only hang-up is whether they get drafted or not?

by JBImaknee on Dec 5, 2007 6:14 PM CST up reply actions

I thought

the 40 was full; a team can't participate in the rule V if they don't have an open roster spot.

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 6:17 PM CST up reply actions

i could be wrong

but don't the rosters have to be submitted by Nov. 20th. If a roster spot isn't open by then, the rangers can't participate right?

This is something I just assumed but writing it out, doesn't seem to make sense.

by ab03 on Dec 5, 2007 6:20 PM CST up reply actions

I think players

must be added by then; so that they are protected.

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 6:25 PM CST up reply actions

Chris Shelton

that is who Evan Grant hopes it is.

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 6:12 PM CST reply actions

Dood needs a proofreader

"We should now tomorrow after the Rule 5 draft. Oh, the anticipation."

by Longhorn on Dec 5, 2007 6:41 PM CST up reply actions

All

DMN writers have a tremendous amount of errors, especially in the blogs. It's pretty embarrassing.

by brettgardner on Dec 5, 2007 6:48 PM CST up reply actions

I would guess

it is Shelton if we don't take anyone in the Rule V.

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 6:56 PM CST up reply actions

I don't understand.

The article says he was traded to the Tigers. Wouldn't that be a trade down in the Rule V draft? Maybe there are two guys they want to draft.

Colbert/Colbert '08

by rooster on Dec 5, 2007 6:38 PM CST reply actions

maybe

it is because we are getting Chris Shelton.

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 6:41 PM CST up reply actions

That's a very good deal....

if it's for Shelton....

either way, not that much of a loss in Guzman, IMO, so this could potentially be a great trade or a 'meh' trade.

Req

by Requiem on Dec 5, 2007 7:17 PM CST up reply actions

Shelton

He was DFA'd last week, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's he PTBNL. I'd be very pleased with that.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Dec 5, 2007 7:18 PM CST up reply actions

why

was he DFA'd? He's not a bad player by any means.

"2008 should be about rebuilding, 2009 about taking a step forward. 2010 is the target year." -AJM

by dstar442005 on Dec 5, 2007 7:21 PM CST up reply actions

Shelton was DFA'ed....

because Detroit wanted to improve their bullpen with Cruceta, and they needed space on the 40 for him.

This was before the Miguel Cabrera trade, of course.

Req

by Requiem on Dec 5, 2007 7:37 PM CST up reply actions

I would think that is it...

just not sure what else Detroit could have got for the guy anyway.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 5, 2007 7:22 PM CST up reply actions

why would it be a PTBNL though, why

not just say shelton outright?

well, i hope its shelton anyway. completes our 1b platoon with someone who should legitimately mash lefties.

by DShep on Dec 5, 2007 7:25 PM CST up reply actions

maybe

to allow the Rangers to participate in the draft. Just in case someone they like falls.

by BHill on Dec 5, 2007 7:27 PM CST up reply actions

that's my guess

they wanted to free a spot for the rule 5 in case a guy fell to them they wanted, if not they get the ptbnl that needs to be on the 40

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by rentz on Dec 5, 2007 7:29 PM CST up reply actions

Yep

Shelton was on Detroit's 40-man, so if he is the player coming back, he'll have to be put on the Rangers' 40-man.

So by making him the PTBNL (if that's the case) the Rangers can make a Rule 5 pick tomorrow, then cut someone else to make room for Shelton.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Dec 5, 2007 7:33 PM CST up reply actions

by Brian Thomas on Dec 5, 2007 8:10 PM CST up reply actions

Very nice move

by Brett Perryman on Dec 5, 2007 8:10 PM CST up reply actions

since the PTBNL

has already been named, I guess we are not eligible to participate in Rule 5 draft?

Some professionals get better with age and experience. Lawyers, professors, engineers. Hookers? Not so much. -- DJ Cahill

by tricer on Dec 5, 2007 8:32 PM CST up reply actions

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