Rangers wanted Cabrera

by mtex on Dec 7, 2007 11:56 AM CST

Didn't know we had interest. It apparently hinged on being able to get an extension worked out, but the team wasn't allowed to speak with Cabrera's agent. Glad to see we were involved with other things, though.

http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071206&content_id=2320747&vkey=news_fl a&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla

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for my diary below. I applaud not pursuing even Cabrera if they don't have any assurance that he'd be around when they're contending. You don't trade away the farm for a guy that's going to be gone when you have a chance to contend.

Tomorrow Never Knows

by t ball on Dec 7, 2007 11:50 AM CST reply actions

I agree...

with your comment above and your diary, too.

I'm glad it became a non-factor when an extension wouldn't be discussed. Always nice to dream what a Ranger lineup would be like in a few years with him on it, though.

"I've learned that before I open my mouth, I should look both ways for midgets." - Denny Crain

by mtex on Dec 7, 2007 11:53 AM CST up reply actions

Cabrera

could have and might turn into the next version of ManRam. Id trade a couple of prospects for him. Obviously the marlins wouldn't have gotten both Miller and Maybin without surrendering the two so they took the best deal. Im sure JD was offering Davis and Kinsler in any deal for cabrera. Hurley though, would have been a sweetner on a deal for cabrera, imo. That deal could have had it done.

""I love GOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLD" blueglovelefty

by NYTXFAN on Dec 7, 2007 12:13 PM CST reply actions

I'm not sure they "took the best deal"

Alot of baseball people were pretty underhelmed by the package the Marlins got. Past Miller/Maybin the others aren't much...just minor league fillers. Most feel the original Angel deal of Kendrick, Mathis & Adenhart was better, before Florida got a little greedy, trying to add Santana and/or Willits.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the LaLa's didn't get Cabrera, but most experts think Detroit way won this deal....as always, time will tell.

by tklawless on Dec 7, 2007 12:30 PM CST up reply actions

Maybin/Miller

zywica's the guy to consult on prospects, but my take on those two is they're both potential stars, Maybin especially -- 5 tools proper.

A 22-yo lefthander and a 20-yo potential 5-tool CF, both already on the ML level...I can't think of a player league-wide that would net those two. They're better than Lester and Ellsbury.

Actually Detroit's probably taking the risk here, rolling the dice on Dontrelle.

by hightowersmith on Dec 7, 2007 12:38 PM CST up reply actions

Mets have had eyes on D-train for awhile

I heard that the Tigers may trade him now to the Mets before next season. The Marlins never wanted to trade him to a division rival.

"I've learned that before I open my mouth, I should look both ways for midgets." - Denny Crain

by mtex on Dec 7, 2007 12:54 PM CST up reply actions

How do Miller/ Maybin's major league

stats compare to Lester/Ellsbury's?

by tklawless on Dec 7, 2007 1:00 PM CST up reply actions

Without even mentioning their

WORLD SERIES experience.

by tklawless on Dec 7, 2007 1:05 PM CST up reply actions

Oh yeah, right

Of course they're going to say they tried to get him but just came up short. Same old story with this team. All talk and no action. Wake me up when they actually do something! grumblegrumblegrumble.

"He says we're going the wrong way." "Oh, he's drunk. How would he know where we're going?" "Yeah. How would he know?"

by WyoRanger on Dec 7, 2007 12:18 PM CST reply actions

well you're in for a ..

looooonnngggg ass nap then.

" The kids at school will make fun of me if you're a Ranger. They're terrible!" Torii Hunters son

by LAMuscleFag on Dec 7, 2007 12:24 PM CST up reply actions

Let me say this once and for all......

F#ck Torii Hunter!

by tklawless on Dec 7, 2007 12:32 PM CST up reply actions

This is so annoying

Yay JD actually picked up the phone and called Florida and inquired about Cabrera!!!!!!

That's his job, if he isn't doing that, what the hell are we paying him for?

We shouldn't give the Texas Rangers credit for inquiring about moves that we never make.

Your Texas Rangers...2007-Playing for the Future, 2010-Playing for the Future, 2013-Playing for the Future, 2017-Playing for the Future

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2007 1:52 PM CST reply actions

well

as a counter, the rangers aren't in on rowand or bonds which they've specifically said. and they weren't in on willis. i guess i would be excited because i think its a move in the right direction and a move i would have made, but only if they could get an extension worked out. and, some people on this board wouldn't have done that (weren't you one of them?)

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2007 2:48 PM CST up reply actions

Mistaken assumptions

I could be wrong, but I get the impression from your tone that you think you are getting the entire story on JD and Co.'s efforts from the media.

Two things I'm certain of when it comes to Daniels: He works as hard as anybody in this business, and he believes in being very tight-lipped w/ the media when it comes to potential deals.

I highly doubt they were caught flat footed and unaware on any possible available player. If anything, he can be a little too aggressive.

Fact of that matter is, many of these tidbits are coming from anonymous sources, so their veracity is suspect.

Brett Gardner broke my heart...

by Brian Thomas on Dec 7, 2007 3:03 PM CST up reply actions

My sarcastic post above

Was supposed to make this type of post unnecessary.

"He says we're going the wrong way." "Oh, he's drunk. How would he know where we're going?" "Yeah. How would he know?"

by WyoRanger on Dec 7, 2007 3:05 PM CST up reply actions

I don't

even care if we make the moves or not cause there is a solid argument against all of them since we are trying to build. The point is that I am sick of hearing about every time we looked into making a deal. Wake me up when we make a deal.

Your Texas Rangers...2007-Playing for the Future, 2010-Playing for the Future, 2013-Playing for the Future, 2017-Playing for the Future

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2007 6:16 PM CST up reply actions

Interesting quote from that link

"Previously, the Giants showed interest in Cabrera, but they weren't willing to part with frontline starting pitchers Tim Lincecum or Matt Cain."

Well, that says to me that the Rios for Lincecum rumors were bullshit. One of those stories has to be false, and the Rios one is ALOT harder to believe.

Brett Gardner broke my heart...

by Brian Thomas on Dec 7, 2007 2:53 PM CST reply actions

If the Ranger's really......

WANTED Cabrera they should have jumped in!

They would have had 2 years to negotiate a contract extension. You get good by getting good players, however they come....some as FA, some through trades, some develop. But this idea of not trying to get better, 'cause we can't compete 'til 2010.....we'll be looking to 2015 when 2010 gets here.

Stock-piling prospects is great (and JD should be applauded for the quick fix of the farm), it gives you flexability to make deals. But if we think Hurley, Davis, Boggs, Beltre, Tea, Andrus, Main, Kiker & Beavan (etc,etc) are all gonna make it, we're kidding ourselves.

The Ranger's have said they'll only pay big $$$ to star FA's, they need to look at trades the same way. When a star is available (especially with no no-trade, remember we're talking about the Ranger's) they need to piss with the big dogs, if they wanna ever be one.

by tklawless on Dec 7, 2007 4:26 PM CST reply actions

exactly !!

very well put ! Enough of the excuses of not signing top guys one after the other. I have this mental image of Big Daddy sitting at the bargaining table with Pee Wee and the agents and every time Jonny Boy exceeds what Big Daddy wants to spend he kicks him in the chins.

" The kids at school will make fun of me if you're a Ranger. They're terrible!" Torii Hunters son

by LAMuscleFag on Dec 7, 2007 4:39 PM CST up reply actions

Who !! inspired !! you !! to !! troll so much ??

At least Sharky is a deliberate troll. You're just annoying and stale. Get a new bit -- most of your others have died.

T.R. -- enough is enough.

by inactive lsb user on Dec 7, 2007 5:33 PM CST up reply actions

Who inspired me to troll?

wimpy silly men like you did Ms. Irwin. Anyone who says like you did the other day to "accept losing" has absolutely nothing in common with me. Thats says a lot about how apathetic and weak you are. Theres nothing wrong with being annoyed with this team all they've been doing for years is lose. I'll be the first to applaud when they start making some smart moves and get some where. Weaksister guys like you who want us all to "accept losing" are soooo LAME :) get some balls guy !!

"Santa all I want is a new owner for the Rangers. Pee Wee and Wash can stay." - Me

by LAMuscleFag on Dec 7, 2007 5:40 PM CST up reply actions