OT: Barack Obama/Nick Saban
by Sharky on Feb 11, 2007 7:03 PM CST
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PrintI've been a little tired of all the criticizing of Nick Saban for what seems to be standard operating procedure among coaches anyway..including playing over and over again the clip of him saying "I will not be the Alabama head coach"
Just wondering if Barack Obama will get the same treatment.
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by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
More context
by jsdoty on Feb 11, 2007 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
obama
I doubt it
Didn't really have any impact on him?
obama
So you're tired of the criticism?
Well at least your innate hypocrisy is alive and well...
Great Idea Dstar!!!
Secretaries Falwell and Robertson can take this country back to the 50's where it belongs.
Why don't we have a book-burning party to kick things off?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 11, 2007 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
This will be an interesting race
On the GOP side, the recent soul-searching of the party should produce a better platform that relies on something other than Democrat bashing, and I like McCain better than Bush 8 years ago.
Because you're a liberal
I'd prefer Jeb Bush or at least Newt Gingrinch to get some traction.
Uh, I think it is safe to say
I believe longhorn considers him a RINO. The Lieberman of the right, if you will.
by Brian Thomas on Feb 11, 2007 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Heh
Tongue-in-cheek smiley duly added.
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
What's interesting...
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
True believer far right
Hagel
Adam
It's interesting how you consistently refer to things like the "True Believer" right, but not to those on the left.
Obama
You sound like Joe Morgan
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
What's a matter lil guy?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 11, 2007 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I already know he's a liberal
Why dont you go read a book about how great GW Bush is. I'm sure it'll really change your mind.
Oh no you wont, so I guess I should crack jokes about how you hate books here. Or, I'll just not be an idiot.
To defend my credentials a little bit
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
Reading 2 OReilly books
by Brian Thomas on Feb 12, 2007 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Books
I'm just in favor of informed voters. That's all. That's why I reccommend Obama's book.
Re:
Plus
http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/archives/Rudi%20Judi%20Giuliani%20sweet%20kiss%20or%20sucking%20face.jpg
She's alright, but him... yikes. I didn't need to see this.
Lying?
I thought
I can dig up and find stuff about every single canidate, politics are liars and cheats...
Hard to gulp, but the truth hurts...
Clinton
by Mike Simonek on Feb 12, 2007 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
ya'll
Oh yea, and we all know that the Dems are just running Obama up the flagpoll to be Hillary's vice president.
Brownback
I don't think I want a President who thinks that God is his only constituent.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
That should be added to the
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 7:23 AM CST up reply actions
you wouldn't understand Adam
Your brother is looking out for you
by jsdoty on Feb 11, 2007 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Coming out of hiding for this
by Dustin on Feb 11, 2007 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
Those book titles...
It's from this...
I thought the reference was pretty obvious.
That's why I deleted that
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
That's a scary thing to say
by thedirkatron on Feb 11, 2007 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
God is not a Republican
Really?
A Senator's job is to represent the people in his state, not to do God's will.
America is a democracy, not a theocracy, and should reflect the desires of the people, not the perception of those elected of what sort of country God would like to see.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't you know Adam
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 7:27 AM CST up reply actions
wow
Just showing
We may agree on the importance
Troll
:) - Obligatory smiley showing I don't mean whatever mean
spiritedness is likely contained in the preceding post
political posts
as it is i think i know too much about people that i'd rather not now when i discuss baseball with them
America
really
hmm
you're a republican
Hmm
Is that not your party as well?
i corrected what i said
no
I am sorry,
just surprising...
The Bible
http://www.slate.com/id/2150150/
The author is reading the Bible cover to cover and writing a blog about it. It's a really entertaining series.
The bible is good
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 7:32 AM CST up reply actions
you should be scared
by whom?
From
If that were true
it's a canard
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Some political challengers may make that case, but they will look like idiots to the majority of right-thinking Americans.
people would care only if he was atheist
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 7:35 AM CST up reply actions
Debbie Schlussel
She says that he shouldn't be President, not because he's Muslim, but because his father was Muslim:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/12/barack_hussein.html
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
I am
A question and a request
Why do you say Obama is the anti-Christ?
The request:
Please use the "reply" button when replying to a post. Otherwise, it makes the discussion very difficult to follow.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
the reply button
a good christian would tell him to get laid.
sad
he claims to be
so...
Please tell me
If not, realize that the United States was founded by Deists, and is NOT a Christian nation. It is a Democratic Republic that allows freedom of religion. Even if it were a Christian nation, that would not make it the favorite nation of God, or the GOP the favorite party, or whatever.
If you think that God has favorites, you are completely missing the point of Christianity
You know...
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
Ronald Wilson Reagan
proof right there.
This has to be schtick.
he hasn't figure out the reply button
you should read it..
And I'm praying
I'm praying....
Although I'm also praying for a 95 win Ranger season, but I don't quite see that happening either.
I am praying
YOU should re-read it
What do you have to say about that?
by Dustin on Feb 11, 2007 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
but he hated fags
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 7:41 AM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
You know, the same testament that gave us God the genocidal maniac.
I thought
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 7:54 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently
If you read the old Testament, God is more than a bit of a Psychopath. Jesus is a much kinder, gentler. Maybe his abusive father beat it out of him.
Some believe..
God = Jesus
It seems to me that the Christian Right ignores a lot of what Jesus said. If he were to come back today I think they'd reject him outright. Pat Robertson would call him a Communist, no doubt.
by Dustin on Feb 12, 2007 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
History
this christian
Sharky
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 10:57 PM CST reply actions
Adam, a request...
And oddly enough
Correct...
we should
You called a man the Anti-Christ
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
hahahaha
Did he give you one? Did he put on a straw hat, write "I'm Stupid" on a piece of cardboard, and say "Here's your sign?" ???
Two really minor things
- I just used "Reply to this post". It puts my answer indented below your message. It works.
- You have absolutely no basis for bible thumping in a baseball forum, despite the political opening nature of the topic.
by Ed Coffin on Feb 11, 2007 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
What you are saying
As a Christian
Here's a tip that I give my fifth graders. If you make an attempt to use correct grammar, spelling and punctuation people will take you more seriously. Then again, when you say some of the things you are saying, it is going to be really hard to get people to take you seriously.
If I were you, I would not be too quick to wish for Judgment Day. You may be surprised. Not that it is my place to say.
This Is Fantastic
God bless Lone Star Ball, and all its posters. There's nowhere else on the 'net like this place, baby.
Amen
by Ed Coffin on Feb 11, 2007 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Probably
okay
shoot, i dunno...
Im with AJM on this, reply button is everyone's friend (unless that previous post was deleted)...
it is
Anti-semitism
by Dustin on Feb 11, 2007 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Use of Ya'll
by Mike Simonek on Feb 12, 2007 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Here try this
t ball
Revelations*
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
yah
Heh thanks.
Not that I agree with dstar about anything...
You know...
Personally, though, I'd like to have a microchip implanted in my head. If I could surf the net and blog without even having to have a laptop -- just do it while I'm anywhere -- that would be pretty awesome.
My wife would probably divorce me, though.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 11, 2007 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Dude...
ur funny Adam
Josh Rupe is the antiChrist
Here is the other thing
I don't know whether to laugh or not
But if this was a put-on...
(Goddamn that was good.)
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 11, 2007 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
ha
The thing is, you kind of have to take stuff like this seriously until you know it's a joke. The internets are crawling with Pat Robertson Lites.
by Dustin on Feb 11, 2007 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
See Benny...
Memo to self
by Ed Coffin on Feb 11, 2007 11:54 PM CST reply actions
Whoa
Somebody give dstar a hug. Or send Eric Hurley to give him a hug. Or something like that. For the love of God (yes, that God), don't let dstar be alone tonight.
the Wisconsin Badgers mascot
a new signature
yep
my theme song
This is really scary.....
As a slightly (and I mean only very slightly) right of lean I'm embarrassed by some of the thoughts put forth by those on the far right and saddened by the broad brush that those on the left here have decided to paint with. Those on the left do the same disservice to their side that sharky and dstar do. I'm sure most of you think of yourselves as moderate but after reading this I think most of you are wack jobs....on both sides.
The rabid...
But you see certain people (Adam, I guess, and others) saying, "do you actually believe this?" and the "lefter" segment (Cahill et al) saying "this is of course what they believe."
Of course
C'Mon Cahill
Except,
To engage in this discussion.....
Disclaimer....all bible thumpers are not idiots. Some are and some aren't. Probably no higher a ratio than the general population.
A lot of folks
That doesn't mean all religious folks are idiots, or all religious folks vote Republicans.
Just like you can find Rednecks who don't like Nascar, you can find Fundie Christians who aren't Republicans.
not sure i understand your point
Personally, I think there is an overabundance of idiots on both sides and unfortunately therein lies to problem for a moderate like myself. The result of this preponderance of idiocy has been election after election where I find myself voting against someone rather than for someone.
by Brandon Wilson on Feb 12, 2007 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
My own personal belief system is a mix of Christianity, Gnosticism, Taoism, astrology, and Discordianism- I found what I liked about each, and incorporated them into some semblance of a faith.
As for the "not all religious people are fundie Republican nuts," I agree. My best friend is a devout Southern Baptist, who works at a Christian ranch for troubled teenagers. He's also a moderate Democrat.
Hold the phone here...Christians & non
It's one thing to be a Berean and actually confirm what others have told you...it's completely another to spout off the same mindless drivel as some of the so-called Christians today.
By the way...half of the discussion in this thread is moot...Christ has already come back...
http://en.preterism.com/index.php?title=What_is_Preterism#What_is_Preterism.3F
Second coming
Personally, I think if Christianity is legit, and Jesus does come back, he'll still face the same persecution by other religious types that he faced the first time. Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and James Dobson- the modern-day Pharisees. America- the modern-day Rome.
not true
No I am not mormon, but I used to be, i am now agnostic/deist just like somebody else listed above.
Actually
It is a lot easier
And as BD pointed out because you do or do not believe in God doesn't automatically throw you on the political right or left. To me politics is a LOT more gray then there is black and white.
If you go back to the roots of this country it was built on religious freedom - and that can be not believing, believing, or whatever your stance is. There is so many more people that DON'T fit in these little boxes that are portrayed about religion, political affiliation, etc. then do by a long shot.
Why try and force an opinion on someone or ridicule their stance? Live and let live. Buy a VW Bus, paint it in vivid colors, and roll on baby. Roll on
live and let live
I think this is why you have the backlash against religion. its not just, "i'm different," it's the perceived "i'm better."
I agree
by Mike Simonek on Feb 12, 2007 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
I care about
yeah?
its not a cockroach - its like me saying "i wouldn't ground your kids - he's going to end up a bad man when he grows up." the correct response should be, "mind your own business, you don't know what you're talking about anymore than me." and, do you see how advice like that sounds patronizing?
It is not advise
Its equally easy
I disagree Dan
Honestly I am probably in the worst place of all - somewhere in the middle, but I think it is a lot harder to have faith then to say I can't see it and put my hands on it therefore it must not be true.
It is a fascinating debate to say the least.
by Mike Simonek on Feb 12, 2007 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Being an Atheist
There is no rational proof of a God.
There is no rational way to disprove the existance of a God or Gods.
This is flat wrong
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 12, 2007 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
You think it's cool to be
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely
Bigotry hiding behind religion makes me fucking ill.
And for what's it worth, I'm a Christian...
by Brian Thomas on Feb 12, 2007 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Again...
There may be hope for this world yet.
The majority
Ecclesiastes 9:17
Given the voting outcome ...
A side note
Anyway, they are obviously against gay marriage and want the state to make it illegal but here's the kicker.....the man is African-American and the woman is white. I have to wonder how they would have felt in 1967 when the state of Texas told them they couldn't get married?
by LoneStarBallUser on Feb 13, 2007 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Not odd at all......
SOP in the U.S. Of A.
You'd think
I guess we are going to have to wait a few decades until the religious right apologize to the gays for their past, like the Southern Baptists formally apologized to the Blacks for their racist past in '95 and renounced racism.
Well....
Don't kid yourself.
by a bebop a rebop on Feb 13, 2007 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Most hated groups in America
this is true
is that not true?
Factually correct, but you've got the intent wrong
The only way to reconcile that separation was for Jesus to die in the manner that he did (why it was on a cross, I don't know, but there were a number of Old Testament prophecies that pointed to how Jesus would be born and die). By living a perfect life and dying for our sins, Jesus paid the penalty for sin, which allows us to have a relationship with God.
There was a former pastor of mine who used to say that Christians aren't better, they're just better off. It's not like, because I'm a Christian, I'm morally superior to someone who isn't one. Still, the Bible is clear that sin has to be punished. If we don't accept what Jesus did as payment for our sins, that means that we decide that we'll pay the penalty for ourselves.
Obviously, I can't prove any of this. It's a set of beliefs that I hold very, very strongly, but that's it.
If "Forced"...
Cop-Out
Cosa and Mparks
I personally believe this site should remain a baseball/sports site. I have been making it a point to stay out of the religious and political threads. Peoples minds are not going to be changed. I skim over the responses usually and try not to comment except to defend my religion from the ones that are tearing it apart from the inside.
Thanks again
You mean...
That scores an 8 on the hypocri-meter...
Read closer
being that
by shallrelicme on Feb 12, 2007 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Stat
Here are a stack of places
http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris/key_findings.htm
76%
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html
Hopefully the CIA is a decent source.
CIA
Good to know
Phrased and Phased
Pointless.
:)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 12, 2007 5:21 PM CST reply actions
So
I think I've worked out most of the sexual frustration kinks (excuse the pun), but you did raise some interesting logistical questions regarding importation, Ed, you sage and savvy businessman, you.
That whole "Congo thing" may be a bit cumbersome, logistically speaking. Shall we brainstorm?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 12, 2007 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
Pondering
Don't think live ones would please PETA.
Get a university to sponsor a test case.
Residential acclimation, may be needed by 2144.
Forego trip to Congo (dangerous, expensive)
Borrow from San Diego zoo.
Buy a DVD of "Congo".
Show it 4,138 times until Bongo gets the drill.
Post signage: "If you can't leave this house without a head, don't enter".
Add photo of a silverback, photoshopped with fangs
Next?
by Ed Coffin on Feb 12, 2007 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
PETA
Guard Gorilla gets
a) Lots of grade AA food and beverages
b) An auspicious abundance of company and attention w/ fellow primates
c) Language (sign) lessons
d) Hello? Gorilla-hookers. And we ain't just talking the same gorilla-hooker over and over (like some 45 year old Nuevo Laredo skank w/ beer-barf-breath and face-stubble and national-geographic-tits that you had to do because you wanted to get laid a 2nd time and you were knee-walking drunk and you had loaned 20 of your last 30 bucks to your irresponsible horndog fraternity brother David Patty, who thought he was slick cuz even though he was a pinche gringo from Paris frickin Texas, he knew him some pretty good espanol and was actually buying in to the ridiculous notion that the 19 year old (heh heh) chica on his lap might just wanna "take it to the next level," bro.), we're talking regular gorilla-hooker rotations, with ample rewards for stellar Guard Gorilla performance. 2fers are not out of the question. NOT out of the question, I'm thinking.
e) Bats
f) Custom-fitted body armor. Like the Chuck D song.
g) Uh, is the gorilla gonna have the benefit of a structured and nurturing environment IN THE WILD?
h) And finally, on that same note, will the wild gorilla get the opportunity to SERVE, to give something back to the world? As veterans Ed, you and I know what a deep satisfaction such service brings. Does PETA want to deny gorillas this same satisfaction? Then they are bigots.
Also, I'm digging the whole Guard Gorillas w/ fangs notion. Good brainstorming, Ed.
by Brian Thomas on Feb 12, 2007 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks BT.....
Go Demons! I always root for the underdog. (cross myself and quickly run through the our father)
Wow.
Haha...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PVazkGZYMo
amazing that at
Football discussion boards
True
All of the my politician/religion/book/music/whatever is way better than yours threads get big in a hurry.
You'll notice
Time for threads on politics, religion, and the 5 guys who claim to be Anna Nicole Smith's baby-daddy.
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