I am not overreacting.........
I am just wondering what everyone elses thoughts are on this.
How long will we have to watch players like Wilkerson and Lofton completely suck before changes are made?
I know it has only been six games, but after watching Wilkerson suck last year, and just look stupid at the plate tonight, isn't is close to time to cut ties and give his AB's to someone else? As for Lofton, he looks lost at the plate to me as well.
Anyways, how long until something changes, and if changes actually do take place, what players will benefit from the changes?
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Lofton Stays
Wilkerson...see phil nevin last year if production does not pick up.
by TexGoesYard on Apr 8, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously, his last good year was 2004
same goes for half our linep that hasnt been good since 04..
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has been
Look nobody's asking you to bear his child, but at least recognize that he has been improving. He's what he is right now. A good bottom-of-the-lineup hitter.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what improvement are you talking about?
what exactly are you seeing him do?
michael yong and others also doing poorly doesnt somehow equal wilkerson doing well.
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about
He's taking walks and fouling off pitches, that's something he was lacking last year.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so now being decent
a lot of people have been bad this year. wilkerson is one of them. its only a week, and im not saying its any more than that. but its a bad week after a bad spring training after a bad season after a bad season.
and through the first week, hes walked at exactly (and i mean exactly) the same rate as he did last year.
wilkerson may yet have a good year, but he has not shown it yet. he has not been better. MY has been bad, tex has been meh, lofton has been bad, etc... and so has wilkerson.
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
It's cold, it was against a collection of great pitchers, and nobody has really hit. It's as ridiculous to overreact to Wilkerson as it is to someone like Millwood. You don't have major surgery and come back and immediately become Barry Bonds. I see progress, you don't. Let's wait for more than a week to decide who's right shall we?
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep making
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep making great fantastic, insightful posts
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
listen
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad to see
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are the one who said he looked better
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why we should
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can work counts til doomsday
by DJCahill on Apr 9, 2007 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reminds me of the Billy Beene comment...
by tricer on Apr 10, 2007 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it doesnt matter who they face...
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tell me
by Brandon Wilson on Apr 8, 2007 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does it really matter who the pitcher is?
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point
No one looked good against Papelbon. I tip my hat to him and move on. We won 2 out of 3 and I am happy about it. We could have easily been 1-5 or 0-6 the way all of our bats are going, not just Wilkerson. 2-4 feels pretty good right now.
by Brandon Wilson on Apr 8, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is irrelevant
ans to say that wilkerson is improving based on 6 games this year is crazy. i believe a years worth of suck outweighs 6 games of bad, but not total suck.
by pwh9980 on Apr 8, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh please
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THat goes for 1/2 of our lineup
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yes you are overreacting
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you are a moron
by pwh9980 on Apr 8, 2007 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i am so glad you have been able to keep a
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
What do I know though, maybe you can draw another picture of MY to bust him out of that slump.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go back and read
by pwh9980 on Apr 8, 2007 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why
one diary is complaining about two players, and another has one guy criticizing the team and most people criticizing him.
Me and a bunch of others complaining about all the at bats at the end of teh game is not freaking doom and gloom, its frustration at the game. i certainly havnt said now all of the sdden i think the rangers suck becase papelbon beating them.
and its ridiculos to get so mad at people for supposedly overreacting and then in trn overreacting as much if not more. douse yourself in flames? fellate eachother? new levels of idiocy?
oh yeah, those people saying freaking wilkerson has sucked are WAY out of line.
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is the posts you make
We had (OMG Wilkerson and OMG Sosa) posts throughout spring training, in every gameday thread and seemingly every time he Ks. It's ridiculous that you don't think that two diaries complaining about the same thing is excessive and overreaction, especially considering we just took a series from a team with a that is one of the best in the AL.
Ask yourself, would we be having this converstaion if we were 3-3 or took 2 of 3 from the Angels? This is just overreaction caused by a slow start, and the fact that we hear it over and over again is ridiculous. We covered it in the gamesday thread, why bother making 2 diaries about it? Is your brand of bitching so much more important/different than everyone elses'? It's a ridiculous way to do things, so yes, we are approaching a new level of retardation.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And by we all
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have all the right
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that the rule
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
give me a break
they may be overreactions, but i bet most people wold be more offended by a poster telling others off as you have in these threads then they wold be by people saying brad wilkerson has been terrible and MY and Tex had terrible at bats....
2) Its called a gameday thread for a reason.
reactions to the game. if you cant handle people giving instinct reactions to what happens, dont go into the thread.
3) What exactly have my posts said? The only thing ive said is that im absolutely sick of wilkerson. Wilkerson was terrible last year and has been bad this year. Im sick of him. what of it? thats perfectly reasonable.
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ive also said padilla pitched a great game, nelson had a nice line drive and that tex/youngs at bats were pathetic. Theres nothing wrong with any of that. I havnt said the rangers will lose 100 games, the team needs to get blown up, and i certainly havnt cursed off fellow rager fans because i cant deal with their reactions to a game =\
4) I ABSOLUTELY would have complained about those at bats regardless of record. What conversation do you think we are having? What, noone has said wilkerson has been bad before today?
Would I have been a little nicer and in a happier mood abot it? sure. who cares though, those posts dont hurt anybody, they are venting. Im venting about people who arnt here, dont care what im saying, and who the thread is about. You are venting about people reacting to a ranger game in a rangers game blog.
your posts have been the most ridiculous posts in the past 24 hours, at least keep overreaction about baseball players rather than personally insulting people 4-5 times, and then trying to act like you are the one remaining calm.
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please
I don't know, maybe Wilkerson will be horrible again this year, but it's also become readily apparent that his bad ABs are always subjected to more criticsm than anyone else. You might be right about Wilkerson and I might just be grasping at straws, but it's way too early to have a definitive answer. We played a decent game tonight and couldn't take advantage of our opportunities. I don't see why 1) a player gets targeted much more frequently than another 2) anyone can make up a definitive claim on a player's future performance 6 games in.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm... a frustrated ranger fan
someone who supposedly can see past such short sighted reactions telling other fans to...
"Do us all a favor and take a bath in vasoline will ya?"
"the vast majority of you can douse yourself in gasoline and drop a match for your knee jerking ways"
"Keep making great fantastic, insightful posts, I'm pretty sure your boyfriend's impressed."
"at the risk of sounding vulgar, go suck a cock."
"because you guys are becoming Red Sox retarded. That's a whole new level of retarded that nobody should have to deal with in the first week of the season."
"hey why don't you guys skip the pretenses and just felliate each other already?"
"keep making great fantastic, insightful posts"
hmm... which is more irritating and out of place on a rangers blog... hard to say.....
plus..
- once again, i did NOT say it wasnt overreaction. I said it may be.
- There are plenty of reasons to give michael young and mark teixeira more slack than brad wilkerson. two of them have been the core of the rangers lineup for three years and on the team longer, and one of them has had one terrible year with the rangers and not looked better (to most people...) this year. thats not bias against wilkerson, its logic. pujols didnt get criticized for his slow start because hes pujols. tex and mike arnt pujols, but they arnt brad wilkerson either.
and as of right now, i hope wilkerson does get back on track, but i also happen to be very high on cruz becase i think his offense is similar to wilkerson, but with far better defense. id rather see wilkerson sitting half the time than cruz. for now i think sosa has looked a little better than wilkerson, but if he struggles more then its him id pick on.
and when adam lets political threads and lindsey lohan threads go, i dont see tihs as a particularly bad thread. its certain his blog and i dont have a problem with having whatever diaries there are, but i dont see this as one of the main offenders as far as unneeded diaries.
alright, thats abot all i have to say on that.
by DSheppard on Apr 8, 2007 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this qoute made me think
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm frustrated
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you are overreacting
by jcir454 on Apr 8, 2007 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
check
by NYTXFAN on Apr 8, 2007 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey why don't you guys
by FirebatM3 on Apr 8, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the risk
- Ahem. The next game is tomorrow night at the ballpark against the Devil Rays of Tampa, Florida, often referred to as Tampa Bay. May I run your bath, and advise me if more than coffee and toast is desired in the morning?
by Ed Coffin on Apr 8, 2007 10:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This was pretty amusing
Regrettably, I've seen only two games this whole year so far (Thursday I'm finally getting cable!), but in both of them (one loss and one win) most of the players were working the pitchers pretty good. If they continue to do that they'll win some games as long as they get some decent pitching.
If anybody EXPECTED the Rangers to score a bunch of runs this year, they were deluded. They're going to have to beat teams by attrition: getting deep into their bullpens and shutting them down with theirs. A lot of success can be had if they're successful in doing those two things.
The Angels are clearly starting hot and swept the Rangers in California. Big deal. It can be overcome! They won two of three against the Red Sox, and now they just need to win the next series.
As long as the pitching stays healthy, I think this team's going to get better as the year goes along (as for why I think that, well, it's a whole other topic).
I'm cautiously optimistic.
by Dustin on Apr 9, 2007 12:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't be a Monday morning ...
by Athos on Apr 9, 2007 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone in the lineup
However, that swing of Wilkerson's is atrocious. I think pitchers are gonna figure out that you can throw batting practice fastballs past him. As long as you throw him strikes, he's pretty much hosed.
by DJCahill on Apr 9, 2007 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler has been sucking too.
And you may be right about Wilk. But to toss him on the trash heap when the whole team, including our all stars and future stars are playing like crap, is just a tad bit unfair. Now, if he's still hitting like crap at the end of April, I'll probably be on the "dump Wilk" bandwagon, but not when the season's just a week old and nobody is playing well.
by Athos on Apr 9, 2007 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
by a bebop a rebop on Apr 10, 2007 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wilkerson
Right now everyone sucks at the plate!
by rentz on Apr 9, 2007 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kind of funny
I guess it all comes down to who folks like and don't like going into the season.
by DJCahill on Apr 9, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
by rentz on Apr 9, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand
by DJCahill on Apr 9, 2007 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's always
by FirebatM3 on Apr 9, 2007 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference.
Young, on the other hand, has been making solid contact. In the three games I've watched (particularly the last couple), I've seen a lot of sharp ground balls and line drives of his go right into gloves. He looks solid.
by a bebop a rebop on Apr 9, 2007 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young+Teixeira are going to be fine
by myoungfan11 on Apr 9, 2007 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just wondering...
by DSheppard on Apr 9, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wilkerson
Personally I don't think he's nearly as bad as people seem to think he is, and i'd rather him be out there than mench
by rentz on Apr 9, 2007 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't we see
by myoungfan11 on Apr 9, 2007 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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