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There's a fair amount of discussion about the Brandon McCarthy situation, and why Grant thinks sending him to the minors would be a mistake at this point.

There are also questions about why Michael Young is struggling, why Mark Teixeira is struggling, and why Hank Blalock is struggling, and a suggestion that the Rangers move Ian Kinsler to left field, which is one of the worst ideas I've heard in some time.

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Just for fun trade
Would you trade Teixeira and MY for Reyes and Milledge?  Obviously it won't happen because they have Delgado, just an idea.  Better yet, would you do it if we still had Adrian Gonzalez?

Just trying to change up conversation since we're all bummed with how the team is playing.

by Coolbean04 on May 2, 2007 11:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reyes
The Mets wouldn't trade Reyes by himself for Teixeira and Young right now.

by Brian Hayes on May 2, 2007 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree
Reyes is probably one of the top 5 players in the league and he makes almost nothing.  They would trade him for every prospect that we have.  
If you don't have fun it's your own damn fault.

by cgolden on May 2, 2007 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd trade 'em all
except Kinsler and Tejeda right now
"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on May 2, 2007 11:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler
I could be wrong, but he's not locked up for very long, is he?  If we start blowing up the team, he may not want to re-sign here.  
"Fire Jon Daniels!" Someone has to start it.

by chief on May 2, 2007 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler
Kinsler's "locked up" through 2011.

His salaries for those seasons haven't been determined yet but he's Rangers property for 4 more seasons after this one.

by Brian Hayes on May 2, 2007 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok
Maybe I was confusing length of contract with salary.
"Fire Jon Daniels!" Someone has to start it.

by chief on May 2, 2007 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a mistake
unless he can't go at least 5 innings.  then he's just not getting the work he needs and killing our bullpen.
buffering....

by SteveP on May 2, 2007 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and by the way
we did have success moving tejeda down for a while last year...
buffering....

by SteveP on May 2, 2007 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we did blow it up
who really has market value outside of Tex?

MY obviously not

Gagne - I doubt it considering he didn't start the season on the team and is already back on the DL

Millwood - probably the best candidate

Aki - ok maybe he's the best candidate

Padilla - couldn't get much right now for him unless he turns it around

Blalock - very little

Lofton - I guess you could get something considering he leading the AL in steals

Sosa - he's probably the one old guy they would want to keep just b/c he'll draw fans when he hits 600

Wilkerson - very little

Most of the relievers are pretty young so I doubt they would send them packing.  Can't think of anyone else they would want to trade or could get anything for.  I really hope (and I think they can) this team turns it around.  They may not be a great team but they're not near as bad as they are playing.

OT - somewhere Buck is all smiles

If you don't have fun it's your own damn fault.

by cgolden on May 2, 2007 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You are so right
about Buck.  His worst nightmare is that the Rangers would have won the World Series this year.

by rodinuk on May 2, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade #2
You're right, they wouldn't trade Reyes for both Young and Teixeira combined.

Trade #2

Milledge, C. Gomez, and Delgado for Teixeira?

We'll still get production out of Delgado who replaces Teix and having Milledge and Gomez in the OF would be awesome.  You guys know Milledge already.  Gomez was rated 2nd best OF prospect on the Mets system and 3rd overall (behind Martinez).  Martinez was rated best in hitting for average and power.  Gomez was rated best in the organization for Fastest baserunner, Best Athlete, Best Defensive OF, Best OF arm.

Milledge is also considered a very good defensive OFer too.  We turn into a very weak OF that is a HUGE liability defensively to probably one of the best OF that's great defensively.

They would do Delgado and Milledge for Teix.  I would only do it if we can get Gomez too.

by Coolbean04 on May 2, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also
When I say the best.  I don't mean currently, I'm talking about potential obviously.  

by Coolbean04 on May 2, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Milledge and Delgado
I'm not sure that the difference between Teixeira and Delgado is enough to make them give up  Milledge, although I could be wrong. Obviously, Teixeira is a decade younger and currently cheaper but they're basically the same player (and they both suck so far this year).

If we were to deal Teixeira to the Mets I'd like to get Maine but that's a pipe dream now, so I'd probably want to get Pelphrey in the deal somehow.

by Brian Hayes on May 2, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then
we trade Young to the Whitesox for Ryan Sweeney and others.

So we'd have young kids in R. Sweeney, Milledge, Gomez, Kinsler, Laird, Arias, and Botts.

Slightly older in Blalock and a lot older in Delgado.

That's a lot of potential.

I know I know, I'm really bored.

by Coolbean04 on May 2, 2007 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweeney
The Rangers aren't going to be trading Michael Young for anybody but it might not be such a bad idea, depending on who's being offered. Like say, if you could get Chris Young (the CF) + from Arizona or something.

Ryan Sweeney is young but his career minor league OPS of .754 and his awful 24 for 45 stealing bases doesn't get me all that worked up. I'd rather have Brian Anderson, and he could likely  be had for one of the relievers.  

by Brian Hayes on May 2, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the D'backs...
...are pretty set with Drew at SS and Hudson at 2B.  Not sure why they would have any interest in MY.

But yeah, Chris Young (the OF) would be a great guy to target.

by tricer on May 3, 2007 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Young
but why on earth would they give him up?

by t ball on May 3, 2007 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laird...
is older than Blalock.  He's not as young as some people think and should probably be a bit further along that he currently is given his age.
Jeff Henn is an idiot.

by Red Shoe Fan on May 2, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep
Laird is prime age now, 27, and cant be considered a young player.  It looks more and more like Fraley was right, and Laird is a backup at best.
"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place,"--ret Lt. Gen. Odom

by DJCahill on May 3, 2007 6:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

laird
if that turns out to be true, then some talent evaluators, etc. need to be fired for giving up young over him in the san diego deal.
(assuming they haven't already been fired)
"Pimps be damned, it's harder out here for a Rangers fan!" "If you don't throw strikes first, you're last."

by rentz on May 3, 2007 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

754 minor league OPS/687 major league OPS
"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place,"--ret Lt. Gen. Odom

by DJCahill on May 3, 2007 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw...
...the major league OPS is dragged down pretty dramatically by his performance in 2004, when he came back while he was still injured.

If he posts an OPS around 750, he's a solid major league starting catcher.

by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2007 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this team were to move anyone to make room
for Arias, wouldn't the obvious person be Young?  He's not much of a SS, and isn't real likely to get better at his age.  At some point, don't you have to investigate 3B or COF with him?

Considering Arias'  injury, I doubt you have to worry about this for 2 years anyway.

"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place,"--ret Lt. Gen. Odom

by DJCahill on May 3, 2007 7:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

would MY's offense
be nearly as valuable at 3B or COF.  I'd rather see if Arias can play CF.  
If you don't have fun it's your own damn fault.

by cgolden on May 3, 2007 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would seem to be odd.
The one thing Arias seems to have going for him is his + defensive play.

When you say would MY's offense be as valuable at 3B?  He may well be an upgrade over Blalock.

Well, maybe not, but he is at best an average defensive SS.  With his limited range and plus arm, it would seem as if he would be a better 3B.

"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place,"--ret Lt. Gen. Odom

by DJCahill on May 3, 2007 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True I don't know that Young's
offense would be much of a downgrade from Blalock if any at all.  

But would the combo of Blalock and Young be better than Young and Arias.  They probably would be defensively but unless Arias improves at the plate, it would be a downgrade offensively and probably a significant downgrade.

If you don't have fun it's your own damn fault.

by cgolden on May 3, 2007 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea about Arias
I am unimpressed with what I have seen to date.  However, he is still young enough that you could see improvement over the next couple of years.  If Blalock doesn't show considerable improvement this year, I think you know what you have there.

As I said earlier, I think all of this is premature until Arias shows something, and any decision looks almost 2 years out.

"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place,"--ret Lt. Gen. Odom

by DJCahill on May 3, 2007 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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