Eric Gagne
Another tough outing today.
He enters the game in the 8th inning with a 3-1 lead and one person on base. He proceeds to give up a 2-run homer to Tejada to tie the game.
Can't catch a break. Maybe the idea of not closing really just does not sit well ith him.
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Danks
by Brett Perryman on Aug 12, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
still has
by Longhorn on Aug 12, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 12, 2007 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile...
I was against the Danks trade. I've never been wrong before, this feeling may take some time to get used to...
by 3Bagger on Aug 12, 2007 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before we claim victory
BMac is at 4.2 bb and 5.2 k per nine, and pretty much steady at those rates all season long. Those type of rates do not give a rosy outlook.
by tricer on Aug 12, 2007 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before today
by Clueless on Aug 12, 2007 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your post might be relevant
by t ball on Aug 13, 2007 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken
by Clueless on Aug 13, 2007 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'can't catch a break'
by Longhorn on Aug 12, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nah
How knows if it is pitching in the 8th or something else. Obviously, unless he is injured it is all him...but maybe if he could get little 'luck" then things would turn for him.
Would like to see him succeed.
by simbaa on Aug 12, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I caught some of that game today
I remember scratching my head at no seeing any changeups in the Tejada at-bat. And the HR was right down the middle, in case anyone missed it.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 12, 2007 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Type A status
But what if Gagne continues to suck it up? How badly would he have to do to fall down to a type B?
by JBImaknee on Aug 12, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
by simbaa on Aug 12, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Type A
by Excel Hearts Choi on Aug 12, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this was the article
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2007/07/gagne_expected.html
again, not knowing the rules I don't how this works but thanks to excel for helping.
by simbaa on Aug 12, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boston.com
by Excel Hearts Choi on Aug 12, 2007 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually ...
by Melmart1 on Aug 12, 2007 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Type A, B, or C
Free agents are classified according to how they performed in the previous year compared to their peers. Type A free agents are in
by simbaa on Aug 12, 2007 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry
Free agents are classified according to how they performed in the previous year compared to their peers. Type A free agents are top 30% of their position, Type B 31-50%, and Type C the lower 50%.
by simbaa on Aug 12, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally
Explaining Type A, B free agents
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Some top free agents bring a small amount of compensation back to their former clubs when they sign with new teams in the form of extra picks in the subsequent Rule 4 draft. Although this rule was ostensibly designed to give clubs some kind of compensation for losing good players, especially lower-payroll clubs who couldn't or wouldn't retain those top free agents, it was also put in place to produce a slight drag on free-agent salaries. Not only has it clearly failed on both of those goals, but it has slightly distorted the market for free agents, making certain players more or less appealing than they otherwise would be.
The compensation rules were simplified in the most recent collective bargaining agreement, so that now there are only three types of players:
- Type A players, ranked in the top 30 percent of players at their positions. A team that signs a Type A player gives its top draft pick to the club that the player is leaving. The "losing" club also receives a supplemental pick in the "sandwich" round between the first and second rounds.
- Type B players, ranked below the top 30 percent but in the top 50 percent of players at their positions. A team that loses a Type B player receives a supplemental pick, but the signing team does not lose any picks.
- All other players, who carry no compensation at all. There had previously been a third class of "Type C" players, but that was eliminated in the new CBA.
If a team has a draft pick in the first half of the first round (that is, in the top 15 picks), its first-round pick is protected from the compensation process, meaning that the highest pick it can lose for signing a Type A free agent is its second-round pick. This has already affected three clubs -- the Cubs (for Alfonso Soriano), Orioles (for Danys Baez) and Indians (for David Dellucci) all signed Type A free agents, but lost their second-round picks rather than their first-round picks. Given the rapidly expanding sandwich round and the weak college crop in the 2007 draft, it's likely that one or more of those clubs was more willing to surrender that second-round pick knowing that its value this year is low.
If a team signs more than one Type A free agent, its picks are parceled out to the "losing" clubs in an order determined by the ratings of the free agents the team signed. For example, Baltimore signed Baez, whose rating was 69.810, and Chad Bradford, whose rating was 62.890. Since Baltimore's first-round pick was protected, the Orioles lost their second-round pick to Atlanta (for Baez) and then their third-round pick to the Mets (for Bradford). If, however, the Orioles were to sign a Type A free agent with a rating higher than Baez's rating, then that player's former club would get Baltimore's second-round pick and Atlanta and the Mets would get the O's third- and fourth-round picks respectively.
The picks in the sandwich round follow the normal draft order, meaning that it takes place in reverse order of finish (but only includes teams that have received extra picks). However, a team that has received two sandwich picks must wait until every team that picks in the round has selected once before it makes its second pick; a team that has received three picks must wait until all teams with two or more picks have selected twice; and so on.
There is also a set of quotas governing how many Type A and B players one club may sign as free agents in one winter, with that number determined by the total number of Type A and B players who elect free agency in that offseason.
- If fewer than 14 Type A or B players elect free agency, no club may sign more than one such player.
- If 15-38 Type A or B players elect free agency, no club may sign more than two such players.
- If 39-62 Type A or B players elect free agency, no club may sign more than three such players.
- If 63 or more Type A or B players elect free agency, "the Club quotas shall be increased accordingly," according to the basic agreement.
The rating system groups players into five categories -- catchers, starting pitchers, relief pitchers, infielders other than first basemen, and first basemen/outfielders/designated hitters. Players are ranked in five to seven statistical categories, with the specific categories varying by their position grouping (e.g., there are no fielding stats used in the 1B/OF/DH group, but the catcher and infielder groups each include two defensive stats). Cumulative statistics may be adjusted for players who spent time on the disabled list, restoring stats for up to 60 days of missed playing time.
Each player is then given a point total for each statistical category that is inversely related to his actual ranking. For example, if there are 100 starting pitchers in the ranking, then the pitcher with the lowest ERA gets 100 points, the pitcher with the second-lowest ERA gets 99 points, and so on, until it reaches the pitcher with the highest ERA, who gets one point just for writing his name. This system has an obvious flaw, of course, as it gives no weight to the distance between any two players: If the top pitcher's ERA is 0.1 or 0.01 or 1.0 runs better than the ERA of the next-best pitcher, it doesn't matter, as he still only gets one extra point. Point totals within each position are then scaled to make 100 a perfect score.
by simbaa on Aug 12, 2007 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
important change
by simbaa on Aug 12, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as of right now
for the season he has these numbers...
38 games
31 games finished
16 saves
36.7 IP
2 home runs
14 walks
33 strikeouts
3.44 ERA
ERA+ 134
he's played 4 games for boston posting an ERA of 16.20 and ERA+ of 28. those numbers are bound to improve. when they do, he'll get that ERA back down below 3.00.
by gossamer on Aug 12, 2007 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A friend of mine ...
No matter if he blows lately, I would take him back here next year if the contract was reasonable.
by Melmart1 on Aug 12, 2007 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank God
Go Yankees! Catch the Red Sox!
by DJCahill on Aug 13, 2007 6:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He should
by kwellborn on Aug 13, 2007 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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