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Signing Draft Picks

Kevin Goldstein has a great article up at Baseball prospectus about whether or not this year's draft picks will get signed and the whole recommended slot process.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6545

Question: So where are we at right now in terms of the 2007 draft?

With 10 days to go before the newly-implemented signing deadline of August 15, 13 of the 30 first-round picks, including eight of the first 12 picks are still without a deal. In addition, there are 26 players between the supplemental first round and the fifth round who are also officially unsigned.

Question: Wait a second--what do you mean by "official?"

There appear to be plenty of deals where all the terms have been agreed upon, but they're just not signed and announced yet. All of these deals include bonuses that are far greater than the slot recommended by MLB. For example, Detroit has signed fifth-round pick Casey Crosby for what is believed to be $750,000; rumors abound that Atlanta has agreed to terms with first-rounder Jason Heyward for approximately $1.7 million, and the Yankees have agreed on several above-slot deals, including around $1 million for fourth-round pick Brad Suttle, and somewhere between $750-900,000 for tenth-round pick Carmen Angelini.

Question: So why aren't these deals announced yet?

On the surface, because MLB doesn't want the over-slot deals being used in negotiations to raise the bonus demands of the legitimately unsigned picks. That said, it's an exercise in futility. "Once a deal is done, everyone knows it's out there," said one scouting director; teams talk to each other, and agents quickly let their good deals be known. As another scouting director put it, "I really don't know who they think they are fooling."

Given those comments, I feel pretty certain that Beavan and probably Borbon as well will get done (perhaps even already done). In fact, if a deal is already done, but waiting until the last minute to be announced it explains the lack of public handwringing by the Rangers and quiet from the Beavan camp.

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I hope so.....
Main is pretty important too.....We need to nail down all of these guys.  Someday in the future, we could look on this draft as a turning point.

by JB @ Lone Star Ball on Aug 6, 2007 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Main signed
weeks ago for slot money
Sometimes reporters write what I say and not what I mean. - Pedro Guerrero

by manny being manny on Aug 6, 2007 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

My Bad...
I meant Neil Ramirez....Any word on him?

by JB @ Lone Star Ball on Aug 6, 2007 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

ramierez
word is he is pretty set on going to college.
Spider pig, Spider pig does whatever a spider pig does

by rentz on Aug 6, 2007 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't read that
Do you have a link?
I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Aug 6, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ramierez
i don't remember a link off hand specifically saying that, but all the buzz has been he's going to college.

i want them to sign him, but i'd be surprised if they did

Spider pig, Spider pig does whatever a spider pig does

by rentz on Aug 6, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd read that about Nash, but not NeiRam
I'm just kidding w/ that douchey nickname, by the by...
I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Aug 6, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope it sticks, actually
we need more douchelly nicknamed players.

Especially if you pronounce it Knee-Ram.

Gas, brake, honk. Gas, brake, honk. Honk, honk, punch. Gas, gas, gas.

by thedirkatron on Aug 6, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

so maybe im wrong
todays paper made it sound like neiram might get signed along with beavan
Spider pig, Spider pig does whatever a spider pig does

by rentz on Aug 7, 2007 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

He makes a great point in that article
about teams that go over slot have the better farms.

Going over slot is like paying the luxury tax in the NBA, if you aren't doing it, you really aren't serious about winning.

by DJCahill on Aug 6, 2007 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Teams going above slot
If it is true that many teams are signing above slot, than it makes much less sense for the Rangers to try to stick to slot on their picks.  Yes, going above slot would slightly weaken their negotiating position next year, but if many other teams are doing so the whole slot system kind of falls apart anyway.  Since the whole things smacks of collusion and teams are flush with money, it's all kind of pointless.

I think it makes sense for teams to not just roll over and pay whatever the demand is, but to obstinately stick to slot is suicide in terms of developing your minor league system.

mmmmmm...64 slices of American cheese...

by t ball on Aug 6, 2007 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

It seems absolutely ridiculous to me
to quibble over $50k or $100K, and then go spend $5 million on a Brad Wilkerson type.

by DJCahill on Aug 6, 2007 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep
which I think in part is the point of the article... everyone in baseball operations think it is stupid, only some owners and the commisioner's office think this process is a good idea.

by Brandon Wilson on Aug 6, 2007 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah
going 50-100K over slot shouldnt be a big deal.
i think the whole slot rule enforcement (or whatever it is) was to prevent guys in round 5 from signing for first round money.
Spider pig, Spider pig does whatever a spider pig does

by rentz on Aug 6, 2007 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep and...
I am really hoping Ramirez gets signed too.

by corbsclinton on Aug 6, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

are you hearing this...
...from a reliable source?
Me and Billy the Kid never got along. I didn't like the way he cocked his hat and he wore his gun all wrong.

by tricer on Aug 6, 2007 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

about as reliable as you can get
Thanks for the scoop! That is outstanding news.
Me and Billy the Kid never got along. I didn't like the way he cocked his hat and he wore his gun all wrong.

by tricer on Aug 7, 2007 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you mean
all of them, like including Nash and some or all of those midround guys, or all of the first rounders?

by Brett Perryman on Aug 6, 2007 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn
sweet.  Even if he turns out to be wrong I like that attitude and confidence.
mmmmmm...64 slices of American cheese...

by t ball on Aug 6, 2007 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jay Robertson?
Special Asst. to the GM?
mmmmmm...64 slices of American cheese...

by t ball on Aug 6, 2007 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

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