Lone Star Ball: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: Sounder At Heart for Seattle Sounders Fans!

OT: NFL All-Pro selections are in...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d805db597&template=with-video&confirm=true

Three pokes on the ist team, 2 on the 2nd.

A few thoughts:

The only selections I have any real problem with are 1st team RB and Al Harris. LT rode in on his rep this time, gold glove style.

You have to think Romo would have made 2nd team if he hadn't stumbled so much in the last month.

If we could money whip Samuels (or Trufant) into signing w/ us next year, how big of a leap could we make? Draft another CB or FS and a receiver in the 1st rd, and we'd be sans holes.

And all those Leonard Davis signing poo-pooers look pretty stupid now (actually, they've looked dumb for months).

That is all...

0 recs  |  Comment 29 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

This isn't
the Rangers, we don't have to "moneywhip" Samuels...

Deal is that the Patriots are cheap and probably won't offer much...

"Bush is one of the best post-civil war presidents, easily." - Dstar

by miles on Jan 10, 2008 9:13 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

But somebody else will...
He's the best CB on the market and the cap is going up next year.  Last year, that involved a record contract for Nate Clements.  Samuels will likely break that this year, which is why New England will let him go.  They have to resign Randy Moss (getting paid like a number 2 or 3 receiver right now).

I like that plan, but it worries me how much you would have invested in CB's since Henry (who hasn't been bad this year...solid for a No.2 CB when healthy) is still on the books for next year.  Here's what I would do differently though: Sign Nnamdi Asomugha from Oak.  He'll be a free agent, is much less highly touted (because the Raiders are so bad), not that much worse than Samuels, but should be MUCH cheaper.  The only thing that worries me is that he's a big guy who plays well when he can be physical with receivers, and Wade has been playing his CB's in soft coverage a lot this year to prevent the big play.  

We'll see.  I'm hoping that GM's around the league buy the hype on Trufant and Samuels (only Samuels is worth it) and spend big bucks on them while letting Asomugha slip through the cracks.  The Cowboys won't have as much to spend as other teams (although it's still a decent amount) because they are trying to sign some of their restricted free agents for the next year still (Barber, Canty).  

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 10, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We should pay the price
to get Samuels, even if that means not resigning Newman...
"Bush is one of the best post-civil war presidents, easily." - Dstar

by miles on Jan 10, 2008 9:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Newman
What's his contract status?

He's creeping up into his 30s, iirc.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 10, 2008 9:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Newman just turned..
29.  The problem with dumping Newman and signing Samuels is cost.  Newman probably gives you a home-town discount, plus he's not as good, so he's cheaper.

But there's really only one dominant CB right now (Bailey).  There are other who are good from year to year, but it varies.  It's hard to find people who play at all-pro levels year in and year out, and I don't think that Samuels is one of those guys.  I could be wrong.  

Realize that signing Samuels means you lose two of the following three most likely, if not all three: Newman, Barber, Canty.

PS-Message to MLB, do you see how having something more than a luxury tax makes it harder for teams to stockpile talent, thus spreading out the talent more equally, and forcing teams to be better at managing their finances.  I'm not saying I'm for a full salary cap in MLB, but it drives me crazy how teams can just spend themselves out of bad contracts with hardly any consequences, while other teams have to let good players go even though they make smart personnel moves.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 10, 2008 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Big differences between MLB and NFL
  1.  MLB players union is strong than the NFLs.  They have no incentive to agree to a cap.
  2. The economics are completely different.  The NFL teams get a significantly larger percentage of their revenue through the league from the national TV packages, so all teams are on a much more level playing field revenue wise.  The MLB teams derive a very large percentage of their revenues from local cable TV contracts which NFL teams don't have.  This allows Green Bay to compete with the Giants much better than it allows the Brewers to compete with the Yankees.
Unless you move more revenue from the teams, to the league, and the big teams would never agree to this, I don't think you will ever see financial parity in Baseball.
"As of now they're (The Astros) world series favorites. Period." - Sharky

by DJCahill on Jan 10, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not re-signing Newman would be beyond dumb
Rex Hudler is in demand as a motivational speaker.

by Brian Thomas on Jan 10, 2008 9:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol
nice.
"Lois, undecided voters are the biggest idiots on the planet, try giving short, simple answers."

by Longhorn on Jan 10, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
Newman is terrific. His contributions can't be measured by stats alone; people simply avoid him. I can barely recall any occasions where any receiver dominated him (100 yards or more).
Your Texas Rangers: Shooting for whichever year best suits our marketing campaign!

by BudLight on Jan 10, 2008 10:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Leonard Davis
He's played well, but he's also a guard making tackle money.  Thankfully the salary cap going up has helped softened the blow.

Big question in the offseason (Besides replacing the many execs that Tuna takes away) will be Flozell and whether he deserves a new contract

If there is one lawyer in town, he goes broke. If there are two, they both get rich

by Taylor on Jan 10, 2008 9:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Samuels is a free-agent
And we can't afford both him and Newman.  He's going to be looking for Clements money (As will Newman, probably).

The best bet is to draft a CB in the first round... groom him for a year or two behind Henry, playing the slot next year.

by TheBZA on Jan 10, 2008 9:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Samuels>Newman
"Bush is one of the best post-civil war presidents, easily." - Dstar

by miles on Jan 10, 2008 9:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Debatable
Not saying you're wrong, but not saying you're right either.

Samuels is going to get that fat contract.  I think we have the chance to resign Newman for less.  I'd stick with Newman, especially for the discount.

by TheBZA on Jan 10, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Newman
He isn't a FA until 2009.
Rex Hudler is in demand as a motivational speaker.

by Brian Thomas on Jan 10, 2008 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You should know by now
all players are the same.  The only differences are the OCs.
"As of now they're (The Astros) world series favorites. Period." - Sharky

by DJCahill on Jan 10, 2008 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

FYI..............
It's Samuel, Not Samuels. Chris Samuels plays tackle for the Redskins, but this dude is named Asante Samuel.  He's one of the top 5 CB's in the NFL. As sports fans, we should all know his name.

Of course, I would figure that Heisman Trophy candidate Chase Daniel could get his name pronounced correctly, but that rarely happens, either.

by Hard8 on Jan 11, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LT....
Won the rushing title, led RB's in TD's, averaged 4.7 yards/carry.

"LT rode in on his rep this time, gold glove style."

Really?????

by jthig32 on Jan 10, 2008 10:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Petersen was better.
Nearly a yard more per carry. Played on a team with zero talent, no QB, no passing game, yet still averaged 5.6 yards per carry while facing 9 in the box.

He may have been the most explosive player in football this year.

After going back and checking, LT did have a better year than I realized. A good deal better.

So I did have Taylor ahead of LT, too, but I think that LT's receiving gives him the nod. So I hereby retract the aforementioned statement. It should have been Petersen and LT.

My bad.

Rex Hudler is in demand as a motivational speaker.

by Brian Thomas on Jan 10, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Peterson was awesome, don't get me wrong
But the OL in Minnesota is just damn good.

Adrian Peterson: 5.6 ypc
Chester Taylor: 5.4 ypc  

by cgolden on Jan 10, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LDT
I despise when people call Tomlinson LT.

That is truly the biggest crock of shit in the NFL.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 10, 2008 11:09 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Because of Lawerence Taylor?
They just happen to have the same initials....

The biggest crock of shit would be the Oakland Raiders.

by TheBZA on Jan 10, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
Because of Lawrence Taylor.

I shot my mouth off a little, but that's the real LT.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 10, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You sure do get irate about alot of obscure shit
http://www.lonestarball.com/comments/2007/12/18/23524/032/14#14

"That is truly the biggest crock of shit in the NFL."

A little hyperbolic, don't you think? Or is that word not ok, either?

Its not like he's being called "Sweetness" or "The Bus," dude, its his INITIALS.

Rex Hudler is in demand as a motivational speaker.

by Brian Thomas on Jan 10, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Antonio Cromartie
I don't really think he deserves to be first team (he wasn't even a starter for SD all year), but he is really good and it is sickening that we passed on him to grap Bobby Bag o' Nothing Carpenter.

The Carpenter over Cromartie pick is looking a lot like Mayberry over Ellsbury.

Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 10, 2008 11:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

hey i was happy with the pick then
clearly im not now but in college he was a 'hoss...

by knockoutking24 on Jan 10, 2008 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not exactly fair..
But I understand the frustration now.  Understand two things about the scenario around those picks:
  1. The Cowboys were moving fully to a 3-4 which meant Ellis was going to move to OLB. There was no evidence that he would end up being as good as he's been.  In fact, this decision started his first grumbling that we had basically ever heard from him.  So we needed someone who could play OLB in a 3-4.
  2. Cromartie had gotten injured and didn't play his entire last year at Florida State.  The pick at the time was widely criticized because SD was said to have picked a 'workout warrior' with not enough experience to go in the first round.  Fortunately, SD had/has enough talent that they could afford for him to sit on the bench and develop for a couple years.
It's hard to find a better example than Cromartie of what I would like the Cowboys to do with their first pick, I don't know it.  Maybe what Philly and Indy have done in the past (Philly in 2004 and Indy last offseason), when they did it with both CB positions.  But Indy's Cover-2 shields and devaules the CB position (plus, I'd argue they're better off this year).  And Philly would be better if they had Rod Hood right now...

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 10, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

almost as bad as . . .
Anthony Fassano (53rd overall) over Devin Hester (57th overall)  I really hated that pick then and now
"They say some of my stars drink whiskey, but I have found that ones who drink milkshakes don't win many ball games." -Casey Stengel

by 1man5tools on Jan 11, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Careful
they really like Fasano on this board. Trust me.
LSB : Trolls :: Rangers : 4th OF'ers

by Chase Irwin on Jan 11, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Texas Rangers.
Start posting about the Rangers »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Andrus_jersey2_small
Scheppers and Gutierrez - AFL Rising Stars Game
Kinsicon_small
My "Newberg Report" cover artwork - Wallpapers & stuff

Recent FanPosts

Cjkrunk_small
NFL Week 9 GDT 2
Barcodes_small
NFL Week 9 GDT
Rsz_200px-heeseopchoi_20050515_small
Goldstein on Borbon
Feliz_holland_hunter_small
AFL Rising Stars Game Thread
Ea_small
OT: CFB 11/07
Franklin_4_lg_small
Mass Murder at Fort Hood
Tcuhomecoming2008_small
Whither Godzilla?
Tbone_small
Fire up the hot stove
Costa_rica_fishing_2b_small
Playoff Refunds Revisited - five days left

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

SPONSORS


Managers

Th_buckykatt_small Adam J. Morris