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Chris Shelton DFA'd

T.R. Sullivan is reporting that Chris Shelton has been designated for assignment, and that the Rangers are likely going to try to trade him.

Okay...I suggested a month ago that I thought Shelton's roster spot was in danger.  Keeping both Shelton and Ben Broussard means you'd have one backup outfielder, one backup infielder, and one backup catcher, and I think the Rangers would like a little more flexibility than that.

This also suggests that the Rangers are either going to play Ben Broussard every day at first base, or else are going to have Jarrod Saltalamacchia play first base against lefties, with Gerald Laird catching against lefties (and some righties, presumably).  Yeah, I know, the organization said that they wanted to have Salty focus on catching, but someone is going to have to play first base against lefties, and I think this would get his bat in the lineup more often than just catching would.

There is presumably going to be another move coming if Jason Jennings signs, with Robinson Tejeda being, to me, the most likely candidate to get axed.

But what this also suggests to me is that either Nelson Cruz or Jason Botts will be on the Opening Day roster.  If we assume an infield of Broussard, Kinsler, Young and Blalock, and an outfield of Byrd, Hamilton and Bradley, with Salty catching and Cat DHing, you still have 4 bench slots.  Laird (or Melhuse) will be the backup catcher, Vazquez will be the backup infielder, David Murphy will be the 4th outfielder, and either Cruz or Botts sticks around to get some COF and DH ABs.

I'm not sold on Broussard being any better than Shelton, but Shelton posted an OPS barely above 800 in AAA last year, and his power disappeared.  I think he's an interesting reclamation project for a team, and I wouldn't be shocked if the Rangers regretted keeping Broussard instead of Shelton.

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Not to mention that Shelton is younger than Broussard. I'm not sure what value a 31 year old marginal first basemen has on a rebuilding team.
"Let's raise ticket prices and lower payroll, yea let's screw the fans and pad my pockets." - secret thoughts of Tom Hicks

by cgolden on Jan 14, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

b/u 1B
TR suggests in today's mailbag Duran could maybe spell the whole infield, 1B included, and also DH some.

FWIW...

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 14, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

bill brasky
the son of a bitch!

I went camping with Brasky, his wife, and his daughter Debbie! Debbie Brasky. She's 7-years-old, goes about 3′5″, 55 pounds. So, I'm in the back of a pickup with Bill Brasky and a live deer! Well, Brasky, he grabs the deer by the antlers, looks at it and says, "I'm Bill Brasky! Say it!" Then he squeezes the deer in such a way that a sound comes out of its mouth - "Billbrasky!" It wasn't exactly it, but it was pretty good for a deer!

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by gossamer on Jan 14, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

new 25-man roster?
C Laird/Salty
IF Blalock/MY/Kinsler/Broussard/Vazquez
OF Hamilton/Byrd/Murphy/Bradley/Cat
DH Botts

SP Millwood/Padilla/McCarthy/Gabbard/Loe
RP C.J./Francisco/Benoit/Fukumori/Guardado/Littleton/Murray

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by willamos2 on Jan 14, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Swap in
Rheinecker for Murray and you got it right. Unfortunately Botts would be the RHB DH.
Well, boys, it's a round ball and a round bat and you got to hit the ball square. ~Joe Schultz, 1969

by RangerMad on Jan 14, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt they carry
3 left-handers in the pen, imo.

by Parman on Jan 14, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2 and a closer
you can't count BGL because he will be the closer so that will leave 2 lefties.

by Steven on Jan 14, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

SP
I think they'll get Jennings done, too.

And I think Murray is sure-thing going to AAA, leaving Loe or Wright in the long relief role.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 14, 2008 4:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Broussard everyday?
career vs LHP .227/.290/.399
Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 14, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ugggh
Stupid, stupid, stupid....

What chance does Broussard have of being a key piece when we contend?

It's very close to zero.

What chance does Shelton have?

Probably also close to zero, but it's very likely better than Broussard's chance....

Career major league stats
.281/.348/.477 in 899 PA for Shelton (27 in 2008, entering peak performance years)
.267/.328/.458 in 2268 PA for Broussard (31 in 2008, leaving peak performance years)

Salaries
near minimum (~$0.4M) for Shelton
$3.8M for Broussard

Not only that Broussard has been shown to be a platoon-lefty throughout his career. We already have one in Catalanotto. Shelton is a righty who has hit RHP pretty well, in his major league career.

The ONLY concern right now is Shelton's drop in performance last year and whether that indicates a new level of performance (speculating whether he's lost bat speed or his batting eye or is permanently injured).

The ONLY thing with Broussard you are hoping for is he catches lightning in a bottle and you can flip him for some prospects.

Otherwise, this looks like another move of trying to win THIS YEAR instead of building for the long term. (Think Young/Eaton). It probably WON'T be as bad since you're not trading 5 years of a player for 1 year of an off-injured player (well, it is 4 years of a player for 1 year of a platoon player....).

Unless JD has some additional information (e.g., Shelton is permanently damaged, was a PED-user, etc.), this is an EXTREMELY short-sighted move.

Req

by Requiem on Jan 14, 2008 5:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

To summarize
-Taking a chance on a 27-yo player who had a down season last year is the sort of thing a last-place team building for the future should do.

-Dropping said 27-yo player for a 31-yo platoon-player who could be a FA next year and who has been arguably worse than the 27-yo player is the sort of thing a periennal last-place team who's playing for 3rd place should do.

Req

by Requiem on Jan 14, 2008 5:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Preach
Preacher!
Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 14, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
was saying this ever since we got broussard.  there was just no reason.

losing shelton makes it even worse.

by DSheppard on Jan 14, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Draft pick comp
One potential advantage to keeping Broussard is if he's a type B free agent at the end of the year.  A comp-round draft pick is probably more valuable than Shelton's arb years.

Granted, Broussard would have to be pretty good this year to earn that rating, but it's happened before (see GMJ).  Even though it's a 2-yr average, easier to do for a position player with limited AB's in year one.

Regardless, both players are pretty marginal.  Not worth the hand-wringing.

by AZranger on Jan 14, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Broussard and Shelton where both simply stopgaps
until we find a real option at 1st base. Neither him nor Shelton was ever going to be a long-term solution. I am a little dissapointed Shelton was let go - he's a good hitter, albeit streaky. I would have rather seen a guy who actually sucks (like Nelson Cruz or Scott Feldman) get the axe, but Shelton wasn't going to ever be our full-time 1B, unless by some miracle he regained his power stroke, and developed some consistency at the plate. I'm sorry to see him go, but maybe we can trade him for some low-level prospect, and actually get something out of the deal.
"The most important things in life are the things that are the least important" - Yogi Berra

by lonestarJon on Jan 14, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Req
As I stated on another thread, I think this organization is trying to go to the 'sign a bunch of mid-thirties spares or lames and hope they resurrect their career so we can flip them for a prospect at the deadline' well too often.
Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 14, 2008 5:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Shelton > Broussard imo...
but like AJM, I had a feeling that would be their move.

Next to go I can see 3 options...

  1. Vasquez (especially if they think Duran can play a little 1B as well)
  2. Rheino (I don't see a need for 3 lefties, even with 1 as a closer)
  3. Cruz
I would perfer #'s 1 or 2 but I think #3 will happen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 14, 2008 5:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

should be #1
if you decide early on you need another utility guy, you can find another vazquez out there.

by DSheppard on Jan 14, 2008 5:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tejeda should be next,
He has shown nothing but inconsistancy over the last two years.  Granted, he has shown a bright flash here and there but being that he is out of options I see no reason to keep him.  I don't see him as having a future with us, do you guys?  Basically in a year we have a serious logjam with the rotation, pending everyone pans out the way we hope.
""I love GOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLD" blueglovelefty

by NYTXFAN on Jan 14, 2008 5:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I just wanna know
who's gonna be the right handed half of all these platoons we're accumulating.

Broussard and Cat HAVE to be platooned out versus lefties, and Hamilton probably should be at least some of the time, cause you shouldn't expect him to play 162 games regardless.

Byrd can sub with Cat in LF (or Hamilton in CF if need be), but who the heck is gonna sub with Bruey at 1b?

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by thedirkatron on Jan 14, 2008 6:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

who?
Jason Carl Botts

I think he should go by Carl Botts.  The name change worked with Joey Belle.

I also think Josh Holt Hamilton should go by Holt, mainly because "Holt Hamilton" sounds like a badass (which I think he probably is).  Josh makes him sound like a 12-year old.

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by willamos2 on Jan 14, 2008 6:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Salty will...
or Broussard will be there everyday. Either way I don't like those options.

The only option I do like is that if we cut Vasquez, put Duran on the 40 during spring training and have him play 1B against lefties, and be our utility IFer.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 14, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Salty hit just .130
against left-handers when he was playing 1st base last year. It's a concentration thing: his head's just not in the game when he's over in the foreign land of 1st base. So platooning him with Broussard isn't going to help - it's just gonna hurt Salt's BA.

The smartest thing to do is dump Vazquez, and use German Duran as Broussard's platoon, and as the UT guy, and make that a precursor to Duran taking over 1st base full-time in 2009. Which may in fact be the best idea for Duran: I'm starting to think that with Ian Kinsler entrenched at 2nd, Elvis Andrus set to take over for Young when he gets too old to play SS, the only way Duran is gonna find a way into the Majors full-time is to convert into a corner IF. That way, the Rangers can keep Chris Davis at 3rd base, where they've spent so much time developing his defense, or move him to RF if they think he's got the range.  

"The most important things in life are the things that are the least important" - Yogi Berra

by lonestarJon on Jan 14, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Duran
Putting him at first base would be foolish.  He's too short, and the value of his bat would be greatly diminished if he's at first base instead of second base.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 14, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Duran stands 5'10''
with spikes on.  I really doubt the Rangers think he is a viable option at 1B going forward.  

by jparks77 on Jan 14, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Then put him at 3rd when Blalock's contract
expires, and put Chris Davis at 1st when he's ready. Or make Blalock the full-time DH (it's still gonna be interesting to see if his arm 100% this year). That might mean decreasing Duran's value somewhat, but I am convinced Duran is not going to displace Ian Kinsler or Elvis Andrus in our future middle IF. He's gonna break into the Majors soon, and he's too good to let get away (like we did Adrian Gonzalez) just becuase he's blocked by Ian Kinsler. We've got to figure out something to do with this guy, even if he is only 5'10".
"The most important things in life are the things that are the least important" - Yogi Berra

by lonestarJon on Jan 14, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody with the Rangers has had a thing for
Broussard for a while now... why?  No idea.  But if anyone hopes that Broussard or Shelton is a long-term solution at 1B, then they've been beaten senseless by years of Ranger mediocrity.

Here's to hoping that Jennings signs a minor-league deal so we can keep the roster in tact for a bit longer.  If not, I vote for Feldman as the next DFA option.  

And what does BGL stand for?  I know who it is, but not what it means.  I'm assuming the L is Lefty.  But BG?

by Wemedge on Jan 14, 2008 6:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

BGL
blue glove lefty. btw, how do you not know that if there is a diary from CJ recently?
baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Jan 14, 2008 7:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blue Glove Lefty
Must read. "Only the Ball was White" Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Jan 14, 2008 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BGL
I'm new here... just learning my way around.  Hadn't even noticed the diaries.  Thanks for the info.

by Wemedge on Jan 14, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome
also notice the [Reply to This], helps make replies and conversations easier to follow.
hurlerhurley has to drink a 6 pack just to have one for each of his usernames.

by t ball on Jan 14, 2008 11:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Make sure you have
proper Grammar and can spell because if you can't, the nazis will let you know.
""I love GOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLD" blueglovelefty

by NYTXFAN on Jan 15, 2008 7:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does
grammar need to be capitalized?
hurlerhurley has to drink a 6 pack just to have one for each of his usernames.

by t ball on Jan 15, 2008 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At least he spelled it right this time
Baby steps...
Rex Hudler is in demand as a motivational speaker.

by Brian Thomas on Jan 15, 2008 10:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does
baby need to be capitalized?
hurlerhurley has to drink a 6 pack just to have one for each of his usernames.

by t ball on Jan 15, 2008 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The first word of a sentence
I generally capitalize them, even when they're fragments...
Rex Hudler is in demand as a motivational speaker.

by Brian Thomas on Jan 15, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1
LSB : Trolls :: Rangers : 4th OF'ers

by Chase Irwin on Jan 15, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does
trolls need to be capitalized?
hurlerhurley has to drink a 6 pack just to have one for each of his usernames.

by t ball on Jan 15, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't "t ball" be capitalized?
It is a proper noun.
Rex Hudler is in demand as a motivational speaker.

by Brian Thomas on Jan 15, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I love
irony.  My little league coach called me t ball and even wrote my name in the lineup that way.  My lack of capitalization is simple nostalgia for the last time I was at least an average player for my age group.
hurlerhurley has to drink a 6 pack just to have one for each of his usernames.

by t ball on Jan 15, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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