Jamaal Charles entering nfl draft

by rentz on Jan 2, 2008 6:25 PM CST

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/010308dnspoutcharles.262c029.html

AUSTIN - Texas running back Jamaal Charles, the Big 12's leading rusher who moved to No. 4 on UT's career list behind Ricky Williams, Cedric Benson and Earl Campbell, is forgoing his final year of eligibility to enter the NFL draft.

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Well...

at least he's smart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh5wY9xDfVw

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by ortonius on Jan 2, 2008 6:13 PM CST 0 recs

Meh...

Early second rounder...

Dennis Kucinich is a beast...

by miles on Jan 2, 2008 6:27 PM CST 0 recs

look at his #'s

and compare them to felix and dmac this year...

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Jan 2, 2008 6:51 PM CST up 0 recs

He is

a great player, real talent. But he is very inconsistent, doesn't show up at times.

Dennis Kucinich is a beast...

by miles on Jan 2, 2008 6:54 PM CST up 0 recs

Big mistake..........

He needs to stay another year, get stronger and learn to hold onto the football!

by tklawless on Jan 3, 2008 10:20 AM CST up 0 recs

Noel Devine is amazing

what the hell happend to Steve Slaton this year?

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Jan 2, 2008 8:48 PM CST 0 recs

devine

that guys got some serious speed

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by rentz on Jan 2, 2008 10:13 PM CST up 0 recs

good

get his ass out of the big 12

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by gossamer on Jan 2, 2008 8:51 PM CST 0 recs

Cowboys

His speed would complement MB3 pretty nicely

by 1man5tools on Jan 2, 2008 9:06 PM CST 0 recs

I'd rather have

Felix Jones for Jonathan Stewart.

Dennis Kucinich is a beast...

by miles on Jan 2, 2008 9:09 PM CST up 0 recs

you think

they'll take a RB and a CB in the 1st round?

Al Gore 2008 http://www.myspace.com/igotsculture

by gossamer on Jan 2, 2008 9:22 PM CST up 0 recs

they probably will

and SHOULD draft a RB and WR with lots of speed. No more D 1st round picks.

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Jan 2, 2008 9:29 PM CST up 0 recs

Depends...

I think the late first round pick slot should be locked into a CB.

And the early 1st pick should be held for EITHER a WR or RB. It depends if someone falls or not.

If Felix Jones falls to us, then we need to take him..

A guy I like for the 4th or 5th round is Dexter Jackson, remember that name.... He runs a 4.35 40....

I also like Marcus Monk from Arkansas...

My point is there is lots of depth of WR in this draft. We can get a really good WR in the second round.

But a Jonathon Stewart or Felix Jones doesn't come around all the time...

Dennis Kucinich is a beast...

by miles on Jan 2, 2008 9:46 PM CST up 0 recs

i think the Cowboys can afford to

take the best player available with each of their 1st round picks from a selection of positions - OL, CB, WR, and RB. I wouldn't even be against including safety.

I'd probably prefer a CB and a WR, but if a top RB or OL slips down, I'd definitely consider that.

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by willamos2 on Jan 2, 2008 10:04 PM CST up 0 recs

OL

we have enough of those, and good ones too...

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Jan 2, 2008 10:23 PM CST up 0 recs

Really?

Where are they? Davis has been pretty good, but there's not a position we couldn't improve on otherwise. Since we haven't seen any of the '07 guys yet, we don't know if they've got anything, but I sure wouldn't mind taking another OG or LT. Hell, Colombo isn't the greatest player I've seen by any stretch either. I agree with the poster above: you take the BPA which corresponds to your weaknesses. Personally, I'd hope for a CB, D lineman, and WR in that order. But there's no way I'd pass up a quality LT either.

by brettgardner on Jan 2, 2008 10:39 PM CST up 0 recs

O-Line...

is a position that you can always improve on. However, they've done a good job of addressing it in the later rounds of the draft (after the first 2) the last two years, so it would suprise me if they took one with one of their first 3 picks. It's sounding like they really like McQuistan as a swing tackle (late round pick under Parcells) and Doug Free as the heir apparent to LT (last year, 3rd or 4th round). Although, it sounds like Flo has shown enough to get another 2-3 year contract this year. I would do 2, but not 3, because he's getting old.

While Colombo isn't great yet, you could argue that he's just entering his prime as a lineman when you consider how he was injured earlier in his career. He does struggle with quicker DE's, but I think he's pretty solid for a RT.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2008 7:45 AM CST up 0 recs

Yes.

On the team.

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Jan 3, 2008 8:13 AM CST up 0 recs

Gurode

Gurode has been a beast when healthy, Little Has been good as you stated. Columbo is not great but has been more than serviceable, If the cowboys do go O-line it will be Flozell's replacement. He's getting pretty long in the tooth. I personally hope they wait till the latter rounds to pick up a Lineman, 1st round lineman seem to have a very high rate of failure.

by 1man5tools on Jan 3, 2008 8:27 AM CST up 0 recs

yeah....

They will take the best available CB/RB/WR (In my order of preference). There is a ton of talent for RB and WR this year for 1st-2nd round. I'd love to see Kelly Bowman or Doucet in a Cowboys uniform.

by TheBZA on Jan 2, 2008 10:44 PM CST up 0 recs

i think you could upgrade

Kyle Kosier, and I don't think Flozell Adams or Marc Colombo are long-term with the Cowboys (Adams because of age and Colombo because of his contract status).

I know the Cowboys have a couple of guys who haven't had the chance to play yet, but if you don't think too highly of them, you HAVE to get an OL who can be an impact player soon.

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by willamos2 on Jan 4, 2008 9:01 AM CST up 0 recs

you sound like Jen Engel

The defense has serious holes in the secondary, the type of holes that an opponent can pick apart and beat you to death by exploiting Jacques Reeves. Meanwhile the offense is as potent as any in our conference.

But hey, we drafted defense in the first round last year, so we can't do it again? Even though it is blatantly obvious that this team desperately needs improvement in the secondary?

The Cowboys have put together an elite, championship caliber team and it just annoys the piss out of me to hear people say we have to draft offense, for no good reason other than we haven't done that lately. When a starting caliber CB and S are needed.

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by tricer on Jan 3, 2008 12:09 AM CST up 0 recs

+1

by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2008 12:11 AM CST up 0 recs

+1

i was starting i was the only one on here with some sense....

These people can't honestly believe that going into the season next year with Henry/Reeves and Williams starting again is a good thing....

Bill Paxton is the one who looks like he's dumb, but sounds smart, while Bill Pullman is the one who looks like he's smart, but sounds dumb.

by Jukebox Joe on Jan 3, 2008 3:41 AM CST up 0 recs

CB

with late 1st...

Keith Davis>Roy Williams

ba ba ba ba ba ba ba BOO YA!

by miles on Jan 3, 2008 4:20 AM CST up 0 recs

TG and TO

how many more years do you think they have left? We won't have a starting RB after Jones leaves. MB3 is not an everydown back. I'd rather go into FA to get a corner...It's okay to use FA and get your D guys...

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Jan 3, 2008 8:16 AM CST up 0 recs

other than we haven't done that lately?

we havent drafted a 1st round calibre ooffensive player since david friggin lafluer. thats like a decade or more ago. when u dont draft offense for a decade, you need to invest in that side of the ball.

thats the other cowboys fans opinion around here. i understand it.

.500 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jan 3, 2008 10:28 AM CST up 0 recs

+2

if you apologize for everything, you apologize for nothing...

by Longhorn on Jan 3, 2008 12:26 PM CST up 0 recs

Cowboys built the best offense in the NFC

without using high draft picks, so now we need to ignore obvious deficiencies on defense to supplement the best offense in the NFC using high draft picks.

Got it. Makes perfect sense.

Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 3, 2008 1:01 PM CST up 0 recs

i wish

the cowboys would package those 2 first rounders to move up and take deshaen jackson from Cal. that guy's like a young randy moss

by hinduplaya on Jan 3, 2008 10:23 AM CST up 0 recs

except that....

Randy Moss is 6'4" /210 and Jackson is 6'0" / 160. If he doesn't bulk up (and likely lose speed) he's in for a rude awakening the first time an NFL linebacker hits him.

by TheBZA on Jan 3, 2008 10:31 AM CST up 0 recs

wow

160?????

by knockoutking24 on Jan 3, 2008 1:20 PM CST up 0 recs

thats a good point

i never reliazed jackson was that small

by hinduplaya on Jan 3, 2008 7:03 PM CST up 0 recs

Cowboys need Defensive back

talent/youth more than any position...

With Roy Williams and probably Anthony Henry gone, if there are players worth it they should draft at least 2 DB's with their first three picks. Our inability to cover has gone from bad to terrible over the last three years. It would be absolutely moronic to draft RBs and WRs with such a glaring need for speed and talent behind our good front seven.

Running backs are going to be plentiful in the upcoming draft so there is no need to take one in the first, especially when you can get a good back in the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th rounds. As for WR, unless its Randy Moss, they hardly make an impact their first season anyway...Also, 1st round wideouts have been as just a crapshoot as 1st round quarterbacks lately. Cowboys need to go secondary badly, RB then look for a true stud NT if they can find one.

Bill Paxton is the one who looks like he's dumb, but sounds smart, while Bill Pullman is the one who looks like he's smart, but sounds dumb.

by Jukebox Joe on Jan 2, 2008 10:41 PM CST 0 recs

Williams and Henry gone?

I'm not understanding.

by brettgardner on Jan 2, 2008 10:43 PM CST up 0 recs

Williams will be either

cut or traded away in the off season, most likely cut because of his contract.

Henry, I believe will be in the final year of his contract and barring a move to free safety may be let go as well...

Bill Paxton is the one who looks like he's dumb, but sounds smart, while Bill Pullman is the one who looks like he's smart, but sounds dumb.

by Jukebox Joe on Jan 2, 2008 10:56 PM CST up 0 recs

Um

Where are you getting your information? Why are you so sure that Roy Williams is going to be cut in the off-season? Who, exactly, is going to take his place?

by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2008 7:46 PM CST up 0 recs

Anthony Henry

is still a good DB, he had alot ofpicks this year when he was injured most of the time.

We won't be able to unload Williams so thats out of the question.

And yes, this draft is deep but Jonathon Stewart and Felix Jones are backs you cannot pass on. They are special players.

Dennis Kucinich is a beast...

by miles on Jan 2, 2008 10:53 PM CST up 0 recs

Henry

is slow and outside of the 2 times he lines up against Plaxico Burress is exposed every game against faster WR. Henry's picks come because he always jumps(not a good thing by the way) the out route or the slant, and as often as those plays are thrown every game....he's bound to get one.

Bill Paxton is the one who looks like he's dumb, but sounds smart, while Bill Pullman is the one who looks like he's smart, but sounds dumb.

by Jukebox Joe on Jan 2, 2008 11:03 PM CST up 0 recs

It's hard to find

2 excellent CB's. Hell, most teams struggle to find one. Henry's not bad for a 2nd CB, he's just not good/great either. He also gets targeted more than a ton of CB's in the league because he plays next to Newman, and has been for the last 2 years.

I don't think Williams is a bad enough player to just cut and I think that Keith Davis is similar enough to him that they might as well keep both (because Davis does so well on special teams). He drives me crazy to, but most teams fans have a problem with their SS's coverage skills.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2008 7:41 AM CST up 0 recs

anyone remember this moment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEsmN4vluA&feature=related

his hit on AJ Hawk a couple of yrs ago?

by knockoutking24 on Jan 2, 2008 10:48 PM CST 0 recs

Cedric

Has anyone named Cedric ever done anything really notable?

Cranberry Sauce

by t ball on Jan 2, 2008 11:51 PM CST 0 recs

Has

someone named Selvin done anything this year?

Cedric is just a lazy person, and he is not a speed back like Charles or Selvin Young...

Dennis Kucinich is a beast...

by miles on Jan 2, 2008 11:59 PM CST up 0 recs

I don't even know

who those people are, I don't follow college football. It just occurred to me that I could not think of a single important historical person named Cedric. Kind of like Hortense or Mortimer. Or maybe Orvis (had a great uncle by that name, definitely not famous.)

Cranberry Sauce

by t ball on Jan 3, 2008 12:24 AM CST up 0 recs

For starters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedric_The_Entertainer

Miles changes his signature too much.

by Chase Irwin on Jan 3, 2008 1:08 AM CST up 0 recs

My definition

of 'important historical person' is different than yours.

Cranberry Sauce

by t ball on Jan 3, 2008 1:18 AM CST up 0 recs

THE ENTERTAINER!!!

by tklawless on Jan 3, 2008 10:22 AM CST up 0 recs

running backs

I'd love to have a good one to complement MBIII, but look around the league at all the scrap heap, out of nowhere running backs that had really good seasons. Ryan Grant, Aaron Stecker, Earnest Graham, Kenny Watson, Justin Fargas, whoever Denver runs out there every year. Point is you can find a guy to take some of the load off Barber without having to spend a first rounder, heck we got the Barberian in what, the fourth?

Conversely, you can't find NFL starting CB anywhere but the first round. Sure every year 1 or two will be available in FA, but they cost a ton and every team trys to get them. At least one of the first rounders needs to be a CB, and it wouldn't bother me at all if the other was a safety. This team has a glaring, immediate hole, no reason not to toss some resources at it and get it fixed.

Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 3, 2008 12:18 AM CST 0 recs

thoughts

grant - 3rd stringer in GB. honestly lucked into it

stecker - hasnt always been bad, but hidden behind reggie <sarcasm> "the savior" </sarcasm> bush and duce

graham - the dude had how many carries/game he started?

watson - was a 2nd or 3rd rd back. not off the scrap heap. was expected to replace rudi, just not this year.

fargas - kinda pisses me off that he was included. always has had talent, always. finally quit getting hurt though

MBIII was a steal and everyone knows it. and "really good seasons" - id take julius jones over grant/stecker(had like 2 good games)/graham and probably watson. but id probably rather have fargas.

yea, these guys had ok seasons, btu how many of them are expected to do as well next year?

who would you rather have? a top RB or a top CB?LT or Champ Bailey? adrian peterson or newman? honestly, is there even a question?

by knockoutking24 on Jan 3, 2008 3:11 AM CST up 0 recs

good point

except there's no LT or Adrian Peterson in this draft....

Bill Paxton is the one who looks like he's dumb, but sounds smart, while Bill Pullman is the one who looks like he's smart, but sounds dumb.

by Jukebox Joe on Jan 3, 2008 3:34 AM CST up 0 recs

maybe McFadden,

but you can't expect him to last to the Cowboys..

Bill Paxton is the one who looks like he's dumb, but sounds smart, while Bill Pullman is the one who looks like he's smart, but sounds dumb.

by Jukebox Joe on Jan 3, 2008 3:35 AM CST up 0 recs

You don't

know that. Jonathan Stewart and Felix Jones are pretty good... Not as good as AP or LT but pretty damn good...

ba ba ba ba ba ba ba BOO YA!

by miles on Jan 3, 2008 4:20 AM CST up 0 recs

Re: Running back duos

It's true that you'd be fine with a poor man's home run hitter. But the difference between drafting your second runner in the first round and taking him in the 4th could be the difference between our running game and, say, Jacksonville's. If you've got two studs in there, you can do some sick things.

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by BudLight on Jan 3, 2008 7:40 AM CST up 0 recs

for this team

a shut down corner to play opposite Newman would be much more beneficial than a stud RB that would send MBIII to the bench.

The CB would improve the one big weakness on the team, the RB would send a strength of the team to the bench.

Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 3, 2008 6:01 AM CST up 0 recs

yup

i mean the "second string" RB is going to the pro bowl! why draft a rb in the first round when you have a pro bowler and have much much bigger needs in the secondary.

as long as the cowboys are going to try using a 2 back system then they shouldnt use a really high pick on a rb unless someone amazing just falls to them. and knowing the cowboys if someone great falls they will just trade the pick.

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by rentz on Jan 3, 2008 7:43 AM CST up 0 recs

I would rather..

Have Champ Bailey. It's harder to find a shut down corner, especially in today's NFL. I'm not saying I would prefer to have Ryan Grant (aka the next Julius Jones), but Bailey is incredible. If the NFL went by better metrics, he would have won more NFL Defensive Player of the year awards. He gets targeted so little, it's ridiculous. I'll never forget last year when Indy went to Denver, they put Bailey on Harrison, and Peyton barely even looked at Harrison. It was all Wayne, all the time. Could they have worked against him some? Sure, but why would you? It's the same reason Henry gets picked on all the time...

Anyways, the beauty of having 2 picks in the first round is that they could take a CB with their #22 and then a RB with their #27-#32. That's what I would prefer, and it seems like there's quite a bit of late first round (20-40) talent in CB and RB this year. I'd like to see them go WR with their 3rd pick, even if they have to trade up to get someone they like. They took a QB from Washington last year in Isiah Stanback, but he was recovering from an injury for the first part of the year (plantar fasciitis). It sounds like he's developing well, but we'll have to see. Apparently, he's got blazing speed. Some of the last first round names:

RBs: Mike Hart, Felix Jones, Jonathan Stewart, Jamaal Charles,

CBs: Leodis McKelvin (Troy), Aqib Talib (Kansas), Charles Godfrey (Iowa), Tracey Porter (Indiana)

WRs: DeSean Jackson, Limas Sweed, Early Doucet, Malcom Kelly, Adarius Bowman (OK State)

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2008 8:02 AM CST up 0 recs

+1

RB: Stewart wold be my first choice, then Jones
CB: If Talib is there with our first pick I'd be all over that, after that I like Reggie Smith
WR: I'm not as high on DeSean as everyone else... his punt returns would help, but I'm much more interest in Doucet, Kelly and Bowman

by TheBZA on Jan 3, 2008 8:18 AM CST 0 recs