OT: WBC to picket Heath Ledgers funeral.
The Westboro Baptist Church notorious for picketing funerals of high profile people, gay murder victims and fallen soldiers to spread its message that the war in Iraq is God's judgement for pro-gay attitudes posted a press release to its website godhatesfags.com
"Heath Ledger thought it was great fun defying God Almighty and his plain word. God hates the sordid tacky bucket of slime seasoned with vomit known as "Brokeback Mountain"- and he hates all persons having anything whatsoever to do with it"
OK this is what I refer to as religious nut jobs.
Spreading hate in the name of God. Of course this is only a minute fraction of those religious. But can you believe such venom over the death of this highly talented actor?
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by kwellborn on Jan 23, 2008 5:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
Seems like a pretty description of these "Christians"
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 23, 2008 5:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
haha yeh they sure..
do have a charming and eloquent way with words don't they?
by LAMuscleFag on Jan 23, 2008 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that this shit...
by slc ranger on Jan 23, 2008 5:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this is terribly unfortunate
by trza on Jan 23, 2008 5:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They also call themselves
by brettgardner on Jan 23, 2008 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, calm down guys
Maybe they just couldn't find their inner homo.
But, seriously... that shit is beyond stupid.
Just a bunch of crazy assholes trying to get attention.
Unfortunately they're hateful and crazy enough it's hard not to pay attention to them, i.e., this diary.
by thedirkatron on Jan 23, 2008 6:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
should I say
Jeez.
by thedirkatron on Jan 23, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who gives a shit?
Every day, that question saves me some trouble.
by hightowersmith on Jan 23, 2008 6:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
by Chase Irwin on Jan 23, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
very strange
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
His actions (and basically overnight spiral into dementia) suggest syphilis or a brain tumor.
by ab03 on Jan 23, 2008 6:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Probably Syphilis
by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2008 8:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly are they "picketing"?
by willamos2 on Jan 23, 2008 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bah
Here's the thing I don't get - they said they're going to picket his funeral which I assume will be in Australia. Those inbred dirteating hillbillies don't have two nickels to rub together let alone money to fly halfway around the world. Color me dubious.
by WyoRanger on Jan 23, 2008 6:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
good point Wyo..
how on earth will a caravan of these freaks get to Australia. I'd hate to be on the flight that they were on. As you know since you've seen them they are often missing teeth, and just filled with hatred and probably smell. I'd sure as hell hate to have to sit next to one of them.
by LAMuscleFag on Jan 23, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If they do go to Australia
by uthornfan on Jan 23, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL it's going to be like..
playing hot potato. Who the hell wants that crap in their country.
by LAMuscleFag on Jan 23, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
These guys make me so mad...
by rangeressary on Jan 23, 2008 6:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
religion
by t ball on Jan 23, 2008 7:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I said religion,
by t ball on Jan 23, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
by SwiperNoSwiping on Jan 23, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In this situation...
by rangeressary on Jan 23, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
beliefs that...
by RangerMoto on Jan 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The belief has many roots
So in one sense, the roots of their ideals are in a depraved human nature that craves power and desires to raise oneself above others by whatever means necessary.
The religious tie-in is secondary in my opinion. They take parts of the Torah (Jewish holy book, which makes up the first five books of the Jewish Bible and Christian Bible) and use them to justify their hatred of a specific group of people.
The problem is that their interpretation is foreign to orthodox Judaism or Christianity. They have these primal beliefs and urges for power, and attempt to justify them by coating them in a thin veneer of Christian terminology.
So is the root evil religion? No, the root is the lust for power. Is the problem religion? No, because I believe if they were to conform their beliefs to some form of orthodox Judaism or Christianity then these actions would not happen.
by rangeressary on Jan 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not just Judaism or Christianity
by rldwb on Jan 23, 2008 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I used those two
But as I stated in my post the ideals at the heart of their bigotry are not due to the religion, but due to lust for power and desire to hold themselves above others.
This ideal is not constrained to religion though. For instance, I live in a country where the government outlaws homosexuality and considers it to be a mental illness. The government also requires all government officials to renounce any association to religion.
I therefore do not see the veneer of Christian terminology which this church uses as the problem. I am disheartened by it, and think it misrepresents the faith that I believe and thus gives us a bad name. Still, I think the issue that needs to be addressed with individuals is a lust for power and prideful desire to hold ourselves above others, which ironically is something that Jesus addressed and condemned regularly in the gospels.
by rangeressary on Jan 23, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is why I am a recluse .......
by rldwb on Jan 23, 2008 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Spirituality > Religion
While I personally count myself as a believer and practice the doctrines of Christian theology, I believe that it is possible that a great many religions may actually be based on the same premise and that all of our G/gods may be the same with the theology changing over thousands of years due to cultural differences; similar to the protestant denominations. In the end, most end up at the same place, but the Baptists can't stand the Methodists solely because they're ahead of them in the line at Furr's every Sunday afternoon.
Spirituality is real, religion is a crutch.
by abc123 on Jan 24, 2008 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but at its base level...
by RangerMoto on Jan 24, 2008 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that kinda shows my point...
As such, without religion the power hungry would simply find their way in labor unions or political parties, etc. and the evil in the world would continue. That's why even in non-religious societies you still see great amounts of oppression (usually on the religious).
This view is not the majority view though. Most scholars believe that religion came about as a means of motivating the necessary morality for survival. People in and of themselves were unruly in their lust for power, and therefore the masses decided that the best way to respond to this dilemma was to create morality. The association between necessary morality and religion came about when people began asking, "Why should I not kill my neighbor and take his food when I'm hungry?" In an age where illnesses were not understood the gods were usually the source of death and phenomenon (such as the rising and setting of the sun) that were not understood became godly events. As such, these godly events quickly became associated with and the motivation behind living moral lives. In its earliest states there was no priestly class lusting for power themselves (as Nietzsche suggested), but instead a primal man relinquishing his desire to kill his neighbor because he feared that the great fireball in the sky might forbid it.
Whenever I studied ancient near eastern history in grad school this was the majority view by scholars studying the origins of religion, and I've not heard of a shift in academia since...although I'm not as in the loop as I used to be.
Of course, since I'm a Christian and actually believe in a real God and a real revelation of God in Jesus Christ, I hold neither of these views, heh.
by rangeressary on Jan 24, 2008 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
These topics
RangerMoto, I don't think you and I are actually that far off in our belief as to the origin of the problem. The difference is that you see religion as part of the root and I see it (in this line of thinking) as a result of the root (whether that result be reactive or acceptive).
Something we can all agree on is that Fred Phelps and this "church" are far off base, outside of orthodox religion in any form and act out and vocalize their beliefs in terrible, terrible ways.
by rangeressary on Jan 24, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally,
by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well Kyle you're just ..
a lit'l religious guru aren't you? Thanks for the insight. Well thankfully most people of religion are like you and not like those tooth missing, evil vermin that hide behind the guise of the Baptist Church. So which country is it that you live in which would deem RangerMoto and myself official nutjobs?
by LAMuscleFag on Jan 24, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he is in China
by tricer on Jan 24, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
trust me...
Thanks for your comments. An interesting take. I'll reply in more detail when I have time...maybe during a slow spring training game?
by RangerMoto on Jan 24, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a true statement
by slc ranger on Jan 23, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently you've never met 'Woman'
by thedirkatron on Jan 23, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
religion
I am totally not religious and a non- believer, in the traditional sense, but believe that in a few more generations this type of behavior will be virtually non-existent. People will find something else to hate if global warming doesn't get them first.
by rldwb on Jan 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As a minister
by kentbenfer on Jan 23, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
by JB on Jan 23, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Jesus said that the two most important commandments were to follow the Jewish Shema, or to "love God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength" but also to follow Leviticus 19:18 and to "love your neighbor as yourself." There is no possible way to "love your neighbor as yourself" and do the detestable things that this church does.
They may claim to "follow Jesus" and thus the media may call them Christians, but the simple fact of the matter is that they are not following Jesus (and anyone can see that by reading the gospels).
by rangeressary on Jan 23, 2008 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Check this out
Play the Jack Nicholson video at the bottom.
First, it's utterly bizzare how many paparazzi surround him.
Then what he says, "I warned him".
by Sharky on Jan 23, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ummm Sharky...don't let Miles..
see your signature. He'll start sticking needles in a doll that resembles you.
by LAMuscleFag on Jan 23, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What does Miles have a new man crush by the
by NYTXFAN on Jan 23, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cant they pickett anything better than this?
Seems silly to me.
by NYTXFAN on Jan 23, 2008 9:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watch the WBC get owned....
the end is amazing.
by Agreen07 on Jan 23, 2008 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"R U the illigitamit one?"
by NYTXFAN on Jan 24, 2008 8:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the clip !
It was funny watching those hillbillies squirm a bit :),
by LAMuscleFag on Jan 24, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So Sad
by 1man5tools on Jan 24, 2008 8:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one
by mparks on Jan 24, 2008 9:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Actually
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
by LAMuscleFag on Jan 24, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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