Open Thread 4 - Politics

Even if Obama wins, I think this highlights that he's a very weak candidate. I salivate over this guy about as much as Hillary Clinton. I think either is very, very weak.

My boy Huckabee held serve, third place>Paul and Giuliani. Not a strong third, but good enough.

If Hillary wins

I expect to see her break down in tears at such catastrophes as her shoelace coming untied, in the near future...

i believe it was genuine.  shame on those who thought otherwise.  it showed that she is a human being.  

barack could still end up winning, though i doubt it.  clinton was supposedly down by double digits.  

comeback kid part 2

Even the exit polls had Obama by five. Of course the same exit polls that Democrats claimed proved George Bush cheated in Ohio.

Romney looks like that smug neighbor of yours who thinks he runs the block because he leased a Lexus last week.

McCain is just a crazy old man. He physically frightens me.

Guiliani has one catchphrase: "I WAS MAYOR ON 9/11!" Outside of that, he seems very...blah.

Let's go B-Rock.

I mean, is Obama going to say Hillary tampered the vote?

Hey why not, it's the next frontier. Democrats have already made a mockery of the general election.

Obama pulling closer....

I bet if he gets .01% ahead the networks will call it for him immediatly, because I'm imaging the various precincts/stat grinding/exit polling works out in his favor.

McCain's speech was so boring..plus he could barely say that last sentence..

Can only bode well for my man from Illinois, via Honolulu, Kansas, Kenya, Columbia U & Harvard U, Jakarta.

We're going to hear her say "I'm the new comeback kid" in a few hours... just wait...

i don't care if they say the college towns haven't reported yet.  fact is, obama would have to get like 75% of the votes of college students to win.  besides, there's lots women who go to college too.

if clinton does not win new hampshire, i will pretend to be conservative for 2 weeks.  and i won't be stereotypical either.  

The biggest thing I have seen tonight is how horrible McCain's "victory speech" was. Absolutely atrocious. The guy couldn't even thank his supporters "from the bottom of his heart" without looking down at his cue cards. That was a total choke job. Mitt's speech was again pretty good and Huck's wasn't bad either.

But the race is back on Obama v. Clinton...

Oh and uh btw, more money from the state for everybody!

Hillary did well also as I thought her speech was strong. I could only imagine if these two could "take one for the team" and run on the same ticket. I don't believe there is a Republican out there that can beat either one of them, but together, wow.

It creats too much politics talk.

In my opinion, you should have simply banned politics in non-politics threads.

Then people could make politics threads naturally, and occasionally. Rather than this semi-permanent junk.

Would be better.

Durned if I know who will win.

Huckabee is your rep leader!!!

Although, this delegate crap makes no sense, Thousands of rules and caveats. It seems like many delegates can vote for whoever they want anyway. Such as the superdelegates on the Democrat side MSNBC isn't counting.

Hillary and Obama get the same delegates for NH also, for whatever reason.

He said he thinks white people were lying to pollsters to appear more progressive.

Because Hillary had such a consistent win, with the same margin all night, that you could pull any section of the state and the results would be the same. So basically it couldn't be innacurate polling.

And the difference with Iowa was, in Iowa they had to go in a room with other people out in the open to vote. So basically they couldn't vote their true (supposedly racist) feelings in Iowa.

pat > all the republican candidates.  i think sharky would agree with me here.

Here's my prediction, he's expected to win SC, but I'm going to say he takes Michigan this week, or either runs a VERY strong second, something like that. Michigan is going to be Huckabees shot heard round the world, the point were the media is going to be forced to open their eyes to this guy. I mean you can just see it unfolding. Not one network is even mentioning Huck in Mich, it's all McCain versus Romney. But the latest Michigan poll I see up on RCP is Huck+1. And that's the most recent poll.

Huck takes Mich and SC, he's going to take Florida then. You look at the Florida polls he's already right near the top, now add the momentum of a Mich+SC win and it would be over in Florida. and I think he's then relatively unstoppable with all that momentum into super Tuesday. That is how I see things shaking out. It's unbelievable how the media is turning a blind eye to Huck.

Probably helps Hillary the most, as she is better positioned to pick up most of whatever Hispanic support he would have had.

And now, from my count, there are no candidates left who have been a cabinet secretary...

Doh! Looney lefties thwarted by Diebold again! Now Diebold is cheating for the slightly less extremist extreme lefty, even!

As for Edwards...ouch. Not even the man who picked you as his VP candidate in 2004 will endorse you. I would think this is the nail in the coffin for him.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/index.html

Conspiracy of the liberal media?  Discuss.

I stick by him though!

Just temporary NH bounce..plus I think Huck is a guy who will get really underrepresented in polls. I mean he won Iowa by nine and I dont think any poll had him close to that margin..

ACLU sued, claimed it discriminated against the poor.

What a joke..

Looks like ACLU is going to lose, though.

ACLU trying to protect liberal voter fraud..

Paul just OWNED the rest of the candidates by pointing out their 'conservative' records in response to a question about his electability as a conservative.

Then he pointed out the massive elephant in the room: how the US is borrowing money from China to prop up Musharraf and the failed policy in Iraq where our brave men and women are dying.  Awesome!

No racist or homophobic comments from him yet, so I'm gonna keep watching...

McCain is so freaking boring.  Bob Dole 08.

Especially the Democrats.

There's virtually no way we're leaving Iraq anytime soon..

It's like trying to end social security or farm subsidizes. It doesn't matter if 99.9% of people supported, you couldn't do a damn thing about it. This is not a democracy, it's rule by those who get the checks.

This poll shows McCain beating both Clinton and Obama handily in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania and Ohio of course are pretty much the two crucial swing states in recent elections, in fact Pennsylvania went to the Democrats last time and Bush only needed Ohio to win.

I fail to see then why all you hear on TV is what a uphill struggle the Repuiblican candidate will have...

Especially if Obama keeps talking about ending the Iraq war he will lose..all these people getting cut checks in Iraq will personally see to it. All the rest of us dont have any dog in the fight so we dont care. That is why government programs dont die. If you cant kill social security what makes you think you can kill a war..

You and Andrew Sullivan are the only ones I know and I just don't get it.