Olney: Jake Peavy might be available!

by pbpsean on Oct 1, 2008 12:41 PM CDT Comment 26 comments

According to Olney:

Jake Peavy, Padres: He won the 2007 Cy Young Award and posted a solid 10-11 record with a 2.85 ERA, with 166 strikeouts in 173 2/3 innings this season. He is under contract for the next four seasons, at salaries of $8 million, $15 million, $16 million and $17 million (with a $22 million option for 2013). But he has become increasingly vocal in his frustration with the Padres, and with the team reducing its payroll to something in the neighborhood of $50 million this year, Peavy's salary will increasingly become top-heavy within the San Diego budget. General manager Kevin Towers has been quoted as saying that the Padres have no untouchable players, and there are executives who say they think Peavy could be taken for the right package of prospects. Peavy has a full no-trade clause and would have to agree to any deal.

I would rather pay a little more in prospects for five years of Peavy than two years of Greinke. Get Peavy and let the chips fall where they may.

Lets discuss. What would we be comfortable trading for Peavy?

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Full no-trade clause...

I’m sure he’d ask Chris Young a few things about Texas and then decide to go to the Red Sox instead, or maybe the Rays.

by Inkara1 on Oct 1, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

lets the speculation begin

w/o Feliz…….Davis, Elvis, Salty, Hurley, Kiker

w/Feliz……. Feliz, Elvis, Salty, JMJ, Poveda

Peavy is the kind of super ace that has been missing in Texas for …..

by Baseball North on Oct 1, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Peavy scares me

he already has a lot of innings on that arm for his age and he was pitching in a pitchers haven. Make no mistake, he has been a great pitcher, but I would hate to trade all of that talent for a single guy who could get injured and set this franchise back for years.

by clark on Oct 1, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I suspect

Any Peavy deal would have to start with Josh Hamilton. Would you do that, and add peripheral pieces like BMac?

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by Ed Coffin on Oct 1, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No

But I would start with Borbon, Andrus, and a Catcher. I’d be willing to add more prospects if the catcher wasn’t Teagarden.

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by DerekSTheRed on Oct 1, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 key positions

CF, SS, and Catcher are three of the hardest positions to fill. Borbon, Elvis, and Salty are all above average to all-star caliber prospects… those three along with a decent pitching prospect or two should be enough to get Peevy

by Baseball North on Oct 1, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

** pitching prospects not named Feliz, Holland, Main, or Beavan

by Baseball North on Oct 1, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hell no

Considering Volquez > Peavy this season, and that Peavy is very expensive… Hell to the no.

I like Peavy a lot, obviously, but I ain’t trading Hambone for him straight up.

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by thedirkatron on Oct 1, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me thinks...

his arm is about to fall off completely, no dice.

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by hillcrest on Oct 1, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

5 years of Peavey vs. 2 years of Grienke

I’m pretty sure if we traded for the Grink and then offered him a two year 33mil extension to buy out his first two years of FA, plus a 22mil team option for ’13, that we could have 5 years of Grink, too.

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by thedirkatron on Oct 1, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

Me too, Greinke could go from 2 to 5 years easily for that kind of money. Greinke has wayyyyy less use on his arm, less violence in his delivery, and comes from the AL.

Peavy has been a top 3 pitcher over the last 4 years, but he’s done it in the best pitchers park in the light-hitting NL West. For a guy who had 3 different months cut short with elbow problems this year, the negatives add up quick enough to make me want to pay less in prospects for Greinke.

Greinke is 2 years younger, has ~1/2 the innings Peavy does, and likely won’t cost as many prospects.

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by trident on Oct 1, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus Christ

2 years 33 million extension? And a 22 million option. TWENTY TWO MILLION?? The guy is good but not that good. Thats Johan Santana money right there.

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by bigsteve on Oct 2, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he was just saying, for the money Peavey is getting paid...we can lock up Greinke for 5 years too

by slash on Oct 7, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My guess is

To even get the Padres to listen we’d probably have to start with Holland or Feliz. And no way should we go giving one of them up under any circumstances.

Just like the Johnan Santana rumor last winter: this ain’t worth it.

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by lonestarJon on Oct 1, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

not neccesarily

if you throw multiple high end position prospects at the Padres, they might prefer a package with more high end prospects than Feliz + average prospects

by Baseball North on Oct 1, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey it worked for the A's last summer

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by rchawk12 on Oct 1, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

please, no!

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by Seth. on Oct 1, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the petco splits

scare me a little for peavy. this year was kinda flukey – 1.74 home ERA/4.28 road ERA, but he’s still about a run better at home.

plus i dont know that his contract is all that team-friendly. yes, if he were on the open market he’d do substantially better than his current deal, but the one he’s got seems like a miniature version of the kind of large, unwieldy contract for a pitcher hicks has finally gotten religion on. at best, peavy succeeds in a tough park and league to pitch in and avoids arm trouble despite a heavy workload. if he does those things, the money isnt a problem. but if he struggles or gets hurt, thats a pretty big bullet to bite. plus, thats not even mentioning the colossal package we’d need to put together just to acquire him.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Oct 2, 2008 5:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

please someone tell me

why everyone is so all over greinke

heres a potential better question

greinke or jon sanchez can both be had…for the exact same package

who do you take and why?

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by knockoutking on Oct 2, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Are you kidding?

Greinke is better in every way it is possible to be better. Better performance/stats, younger, did it in the AL vs. NL, what am I missing here? Are you being sarcastic?

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by t ball on Oct 2, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL.....

I think if you could get the trade I bet Peavy would not use the trade-clause. My reason maybe insane to some of you but think about this. What was the reason that Carlos Lee favored the Houston Astros? His damn cattle ranch. Peavy is a big time hunter and fisherman, which he is on the Outdoor Channel with his amazing looking wife every once in a while. If there is any better state for deer hunting and fishing im up for debate but this would be a major bonus along with the minors and run support for Peavy.

by RRiders on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

For what it's worth...

Lincecum’s father predicted Prior to get hurt and the same for Peavy and Dice-K.

“Prior is almost all upper body,” Chris Lincecum says. “You could cut his legs off and he would throw just as hard. I don’t like to put my finger on players, but I’ve been doing this a long time. I’ve said, ’He’s going to blow his elbow out’ or ‘His back will go out.’ Sure enough, it happens, including Dice-K [Daisuke Matsuzaka], Jake Peavy, Prior. . . . I have a hard time enjoying the game. I’m sitting there criticizing the pitcher. It hurts to watch pitchers. Seventy percent of the pros have poor mechanics.”

by slimshadty12 on Oct 2, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs