Heyman: Peavy rejects Rangers
by DerekSTheRed on Oct 24, 2008 2:50 PM CDT
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SI's John Heyman has a new article where he says the Rangers will be in on Brian Fuentes. He also had this to say about Peavy.
Padres ace Jake Peavy is seen as accepting a trade to at least any of his top five choices -- the Braves, Cubs, Cardinals, Dodgers or Astros -- and perhaps a few others, though his no-trade provision allows him to reject any deal. Peavy's agent, Barry Axelrod, who told SI.com that his client is "reeling'' from the Padres' sudden interest in trading him (and possibly also from their new plan to rebuild), said his client would prefer the National League and has turned down one American League team already.
While Axelrod declined to say which team Peavy rejected, one person familiar with the situation said he believed that Peavy has told the Padres he would veto a few AL teams, including the Rangers. After years at pitcher-friendly Petco Park, it's understandable that Peavy would not want to try out that bandbox in Texas.
I'm sure AJM is devastated by this news. As I'm sure most of us expected, Peavy will not be coming to pitch for the Rangers. Once again, the Rangers are cock blocked by a no-trade clause. Can the other MLB teams do themselves a favor and stop giving those out to their ace pitchers? Thanks.
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thank god this can be put to rest
flat out rejections are so much better than prick teases like torii hunter
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Oct 24, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yay!
The end of the Peavy watch, hopefully.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Oct 24, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither.
by Brian Thomas on Oct 24, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
I’m sick of hearing about him and never thought it would be a good trade, anyway.
by Black Francis on Oct 24, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its pretty simple
dont build such a hitter-friendly park
by Save us on Oct 24, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lets get that time machine working
and head back to 1994, so we can make a few modifications upon your request
by Baseball North on Oct 24, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
or they could have done it right the 1st time
by Save us on Oct 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like when you promised to leave and never come back in your "depature letter?"
Zinger.
by FuturePants on Oct 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A Chicken Shit
MF is what you are.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 24, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we can trade
Feliz and Andrus for 1.21 Gigawatts.
by BHill on Oct 24, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
It took me 4 seconds to get it
pretty funny. rec.
by chrisR on Oct 24, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it
Is it a DFW thing?
by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 24, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.21 Gigawats
Is the charge required to propel the DeLorian through time.
by FuturePants on Oct 24, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.21 Gigawatts
That amount of power is worthless without the trusty flux capacitor…
by Topgun22 on Oct 24, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, Jeebus!
This is the best news ever.
Let his arm explode mid-pitch for someone else.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Oct 24, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
x
That’s exactly what the Red Sox said when the Mets got Pedro.
by FuturePants on Oct 24, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3/36 for Fuentes though?
Nah…I don’t see that happening.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 24, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell to the no.
If there’s one thing this team absolutely does not need to be spending money on, it’s a closer. And that goes double for a non-dominant guy like Fuentes. He had a fantabulous year this year, but reliever are notoriously volatile, and it’s not like he’s young or has a track record of greatness. All things being equal I’d prolly take him over FX2 next year, but all things aren’t equal. We already have FX2 and he’s cheap. I really hope there’s nothing to this.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Oct 24, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see what Frankie can do
….and see if he can put together a solid season top to bottom.
by FuturePants on Oct 24, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuentes
i just dont see the draw to him, much less the draw to big ticket relief pitchers.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 24, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isee the draw of a dominant closer.
Having a dominant late inning beast with a (relatively) clean health record like a Papelbon, Joe Nathan or Mo Rivera to throw out there is a huge advantage, especially in the playoffs, and something I might be enticed into paying a premium for.
But the Brian Fuentes’s and CoCo Cordero’s of the world? Pass. Giving those types of good but no great closers big time money is just a horrible way to distribute the dollars a team has to use.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Oct 24, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's nuts
His contract will expire (or he’ll run out of juice) before we are really competitive. Hopefully that report is just hot air…
by Goyogringo on Oct 24, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booooo
and JBImaknee got ejected from the shotgun seat when the Peavy to Texas bandwagon was blindsided by Barry Axelrod…
by JBImaknee on Oct 24, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
T-boned, huh?
lol
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 24, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay
I for one am greatly releived by this news. Jake Peavy was not worth a chunk of our farm systerm, but I have a feeling that given the chance JD might not have been able to resist the name.
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by lonestarJon on Oct 24, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
I’m gone a few weeks and I come back to 1000 posts/fanposts about Peavy.
Now I haven’t read everything I missed, but surely many here mentioned this no trade clause that he has and how he would never come to Texas right?
Plus as others in this post have stated his arm/elbow really worry me. There is no way I would include any of Davis/Feliz/Holland/Main/Andrus in any deal for Peavy, even if he was willing to pitch in Arlington.
Finally one question. Just how many names does steal home have now on this blog? I figure it could be up to 5 or 6 by now right?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 24, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
at first i glanced at this and thought...
why is axel rose jake peavy’s agent? then i read more closely
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by rentz on Oct 24, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's that whole
Chinese thing…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 24, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems as though
if Heyman needs to throw a couple of extra teams in that are “interested” in a particular free agent, Texas is his default.
by robert_d_wilfong on Oct 24, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rangers...
could probably be brought up in any big name FA or player on the trading block due to the fact that they do have $ to spend if Hicks wants to, and they have the players in their system to land any player in a big time trade.
That is the only reason why I could see the Rangers being mentioned in a deal for Peavy. They obviously have the type of players that the Padres would want in a deal for him. However they are not going to be willing to deal those players (from what I read in the MJH interview with JD) and Peavy would have no interest in pitching in Arlington.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 24, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
And really, wasn’t it clear from the first whispers that Jake would only go play where Jake wants to? This is a team most position players would die for, and for somewhat undeserved reasons, pitchers fear worse than scap overloading.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Oct 24, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'd much rather bury the dead horse now....
than 2 months and 50 fanposts later :)
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Oct 24, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kind of an asshole move
Announcing that Peavy has already rejected one team. It would be in SD’s best interests to keep as many teams as possible thinking they’re in the running to drive up the trade price but apparently Peavy has his own agenda ($$$$$).
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on Oct 24, 2008 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
It’s not the money, he just doesn’t want to pitch here. He’s already under contract for several more years.
by LiamP on Oct 24, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
He’s conditioning any trade on an extension. It certainly is about the money and him making sure that everyone knows it.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on Oct 24, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't see why it's about the money
more like it’s about his own future success. he doesn’t think he will pitch well in the AL and wants everybody to know taht he doesn’t want to pitch well in the AL. Therefore, any AL team trying to negotiate a trade better come with big bucks are nothing at all. That’s the reason he negotiated a no-trade clause in the first place.
It would be more asshole -ish if he said he only wanted to go to one team. But basically saying he’s willing to go to 15 other teams is not that big of a deal.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Oct 24, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
It would be more assholish if he said “X is my only team.” But still, he did screw his team over a touch by eliminating a team (and a league) from the discussions.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on Oct 24, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
but it’s not automatically assholish for acting in your own self interests. is a guy selfish for demanding a long term contract from a team because he plays well? And this is different than an athlete demanding a trade since I don’t think Peavy wants to leave and also a little different because there are plenty of good offers on the table from teams in the NL.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Oct 24, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but. . .
. . . the team wants to uproot his life and move him elsewhere and they gave him a no-trade clause. I don’t think he’s doing anything wrong at all.
by philkid3 on Oct 24, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're both right (abo3 and you)
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on Oct 25, 2008 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He already helped his team out
when signing a pretty nice extension instead of testing FA and getting Santana money at least. The Padres are trading him after he did that, so I doubt he really cares about their best interests right now.
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by Gdawg on Oct 25, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
If Peavy has told the team that he won’t waive his no-trade to go to Texas, I can’t imagine it would be some big secret. It isn’t like Theo Epstein or Frank Wren would think he has to out-bid Texas, except that Jon Heyman wrote this column.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 24, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meh
I would be happy with him and there were a few trade possibilities I’d be cool with, but I doubted those would happen even if he waved his clause for Texas (which everyone rightfully doubted, as well).
It’s nice to have this put to rest quickly.
by philkid3 on Oct 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It ain't over until Peavy sits in a room with Nolan,
looks him in the eye, and says “You rock! I ain’t pitchin’ in Texas.”
Go Rangers!
by rooster on Oct 24, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah sure
like when nolan did that with randy johnson…
by sam in so cal on Oct 24, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since it's a given that he'll reject (or already has)
I would totally send an offer to the Padres of Hamilton, Kinsler, Feliz, Holland, and Chris Davis
(just to stick it in their craw).
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by willamos2 on Oct 25, 2008 7:01 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And then they'd offer Peavy $30 million to waive his no trade clause...
…and we’d all the sudden have Peavy.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 25, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they didn't say
no take backs
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's funny...
is that the Cubs play in more of a band box than do the Rangers. It’s a much better hitter’s park.
by Redcaps on Oct 25, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not according to baseball reference
The Rangers’ stadium has played pretty neutral the past few years whereas the Cub’s has been slanted towards the hitters.
by Redcaps on Oct 26, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone read this part?
The Dodgers were disappointed by the regression of catcher Russell Martin, who in the words of one Dodgers-connected person was "just another catcher’’ this year. Only a year ago Martin was an excellent two-way player who won a Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger and appeared on the verge of superstardom. The New York Post reported that the Dodgers might even consider trading him.
Oh that pisses me off. The Dodgers might put a better catcher than we can offer out there for a trade, and because he’s Ned Colletti he’s going to totally undervalue him and offer him for peanuts. Thus cheapening the market for our best trade chips this off season.
Fucking Dodgers.
by philkid3 on Oct 25, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Martin
dissapointed? sure he didnt post quite the unreal numbers that he did last year but he’s still REALLY freaking good. besides from a hitting standpoint he didnt have much dropoff other than slg.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 25, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Any team that wouldn’t love to have Martin probably has Joe Mauer.
Maybe Soto or McCann. The Dodgers have none of these players.
by philkid3 on Oct 25, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, I'd be happy to have Martin.
At third base.
by philkid3 on Oct 25, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
That seems like a gross overreaction by the Dodger if so. If they expect a young catcher to have that kind of season every year they’re out of their freakin’ minds. The Dodgers need to shut up and let those kids grow into their roles and grow into being men and leaders.
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by t ball on Oct 25, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As the adage goes
The cost of education is expensive, but the cost of ignorance …
Meaning of life? The aggregate collection of moments that you allow to enter into your consciousness, imo, fwiw, etc. (etc.)
by Chase Irwin on Oct 26, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is evil
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 26, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda OT but had a discussion with an Astros buddy of mine...
What about Laird for Wiggington…
Wiggington is going into his last year of arb, but is already in the Class B FA range, within shooting range of class A. Was right at league average at 3B defensively and would allow Davis to 1st Blalock to DH and bye bye Milty, and hello draft picks,,,,
by laxtonto on Oct 26, 2008 12:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pass...
I don’t think Wiggington is enough of a upgrade at 3B to deal Laird for him. I think Laird has more value than some think, and I would rather try and deal him for a young starter or a arm in the ’pen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 26, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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