Saturday morning things

by Adam J. Morris on Oct 25, 2008 10:16 AM CDT Comment 17 comments

Richard Durrett has an item up this morning about Michael Young being named the MLB Marvin Miller Man of the Year. And it includes an interesting note at the end of the item:

The Rangers are still waiting to get permission from the Brewers to talk to Mike Maddux about the pitching coach vacancy.

The Maddux situation, it appears, is in limbo until Doug Melvin hires a manager, who will (one would assume) have a major say in whether or not Maddux is given permission to talk to the Rangers. If the new manager wants to keep Maddux, he likely won't be given permission. If the new manager has his own person he wants to bring in, Maddux will get to talk to Texas.

And I'm guessing, at this point, that Maddux is the top choice right now for the job. He has the Nolan Ryan connection -- he was the pitching coach for Ryan's Round Rock team before going to Milwaukee -- and is generally pretty well regarded.

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Maddux...

has to be JD and Nolan’s top choice right now or I think Peterson would have already been hired.

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by slc ranger on Oct 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Richard's quick Q&A with MY:

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/a-quick-qa-with-michael-young.html

by Kinslerhomer on Oct 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Gotta think

If Maddux gets a chance to interview with the Rangers he will be hired. If not is Perterson the guy and if so will he accept knowing he was the second choice?

A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555

by boomer1 on Oct 25, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If it's too long

I’d think the other two guys would start to get a bit impatient.

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by t ball on Oct 25, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

depends on how much they want it

but really i don’t see how the rangers can wait much longer for the brewers to find their manager.

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by rentz on Oct 25, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555

by boomer1 on Oct 25, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by lonestarJon on Oct 25, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT

Check out bob sturms latest blog entry. It absolutely boggles my mind the assumptions made in it.

The premise is if the rangers kept all players they had before daniels took over and drafted exactly the same that the team would be much much better. But assuming they would develop players the same, and draft the same is just stupid to me.

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by rentz on Oct 25, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's Josey Wales talk, there.

Really short sighted. Never mind that Danks, Volquez, etc. might have been ruined or tanked here given what we’ve been hearing through the grapevine.

And if the Rangers win 3 consecutive world series somehow in a few years, Josey, Sturm, Galloway, and most casual fans will give Ryan all the credit for “babysitting” Daniels. And Daniels will just smile and nod.

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by t ball on Oct 25, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

FWIW...

I don’t think Danks or Volquez would have “tanked” in Arlington.

We will never know for sure though and the success they had after they left does present that doubt.

You’re right, Sturms assumptions are very Joseyesque.

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by slc ranger on Oct 25, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They did a

whole section of their show yesterday on this. He had his intern track it back and calculate the win shares, and of course Sturm has no idea how accurate any of that part is. Bob’s really dropped in my estimation over this stuff. He’s not this dumb.

by Brett Perryman on Oct 25, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The bigger issue to me

is that all this is petty, useless hindsight. Ryan and Daniels are on the same page and they have Hicks at bay. That right there is cause for celebration amongst Ranger fans. The Ticket would be doing their listeners a service by helping them understand what’s going on in the farm system right now. It’s obviously much more relevant to the present and immediate future than Chris fucking Young.

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by t ball on Oct 25, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Of course they’re not really in the business of informing listeners.

by Brett Perryman on Oct 26, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I think he is exactly this dumb...

…when it comes to baseball at least.

by LiamP on Oct 25, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well it gets tough

to give JD the benefit of the doubt til he gets major league success out of his trades. You started seeing heavily hyped players like Saltalamacchia not exactly set the world on fire in the bigs, and its natural to second guess the guys whose only contributions are in the minors.

Personally, I think a lot of our pitching screwups were on Connor, but that falls to JD too.

Hopefully we start seeing some minor league success from JD’s trades fairly soon (2009 or 2010), or he is going to be kicked to the curb. I can’t imagine JD being in here in 2011 and still having little major league success from his first five years of trades.

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by DJCahill on Oct 26, 2008 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've said this quite a lot

so I don’t mean to be repetitive, but there has been a clear turnaround in Daniels’ performance in the last two years. To arbitrarily say that he has to pay for mistakes from two and three years ago just because, well, just because i reckin he must, is just wrong. If he hadn’t done anything appreciable in that time, I’d be on board with this notion. But to claim that everything that’s happened since then is meaningless is just incredibly misguided. It’s the sort of thing that only someone who wants them to fail would say.

by Brett Perryman on Oct 26, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he doesn't figure out how to make moves

that make short term progress, I think he’s screwed, regardless of the shape of the minor leagues.

I just think he pays the price for low attendance at the end of 2 more years tops. GMs don’t get an unlimited amount of time, especially under Hicks. I can’t imagine him getting more than 5 years without a meaningful September.

Unfortunately, I’m not sure 2 years is enough for anyone below AA to make an impact.

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by DJCahill on Oct 26, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs