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Poll -- Who was the Ranger MVP?

With not much news out there, I figure I'll throw up a poll this afternoon...

Cast your vote...

 

Poll
Who was the Rangers 2008 MVP?
Josh Hamilton
298 votes
Milton Bradley
27 votes
Ian Kinsler
142 votes
Michael Young
4 votes
David Murphy
7 votes
Chris Davis
2 votes
Marlon Byrd
2 votes
Gerald Laird
6 votes
Frankie Francisco
1 votes
Jamey Wright
1 votes
Vicente Padilla
4 votes
Sidney Ponson
21 votes

515 votes | Poll has closed

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Kinsler, without a doubt

I’’d get into the statistics and why I think so, but I’m leaving right now – maybe I’ll do that later this afternoon if someone else hasn’t covered it by then (although I’m sure someone will).

A Lonestar in California

"[Tim McCarver and Joe Buck] are the Gabe Gross and Ben Broussard of the broadcasting booth." - dirkatron

by LSJ on Oct 29, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

By the way

Speaking of polls, shouldn’t this be the new frontpage sidebar poll?

A Lonestar in California

"[Tim McCarver and Joe Buck] are the Gabe Gross and Ben Broussard of the broadcasting booth." - dirkatron

by LSJ on Oct 29, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be very interested to see those stats.

Cause from where I’m sitting Hambone was better with the bat and with glove, plus he had over 100 more PA’s.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Oct 29, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Cahill vote for Michael Young?

My ballot

1. Kinsler
2. Bradley
3. Hamilton

Hammy was the feel-good story of the year, and he’ll undoubtedly have more real AL MVP votes than anyone on the Rangers, but if you ask me, this offense was led by Ian and Milton.

by JBImaknee on Oct 29, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Michael Young

is so dreamy.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Oct 29, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tossup

Milt and Ian. If I could have my vote back, I’d give it to Milt. Granted, injuries kept him out of the lineup, but the same can be said of Ian and Milt’s offensive year was huge.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Oct 29, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I remember seeing

something to the effect that the teams’ record with Bradley in the lineup was the best. For this reason, I voted for Bradley. I agree Hammy will get most if not all the Ranger MVP votes, but Boardgame stirred the sauce.

BTW, can you really have an MVP on a team with such giant suckitude?

1/20/09 - The end of a error.

by Parman on Oct 29, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

My qualm with Hamilton

is that he cooled off a lot coming down the stretch. He played more last year than he really ever had before, and I think it wore on him quite a bit.

Of course, Kinsler was out, and Milton wasn’t playing much. Which made for a painful August and September as Ranger fans.

by JBImaknee on Oct 29, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cooled off how exactly?

What is the stretch? August was probably his worst month, but September was arguably his best and July was also extremely awesome.

So yeah, he had a down August. I don’t think that means he cooled off down the stretch, let alone cooled off a lot, and it doesn’t count more than any other part of his season.

His OBP actually got higher in the second half, btw.

by philkid3 on Oct 29, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you think about it

Ponson was pretty valuable…. His release led to the flux of Hurley/Harrision etc. getting shots at the #5 spot. Not to mention we found out the magnitude of Mendoza’s sucktitude. Valuable valuable stuff.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45-17 to Troy. 0-12 is only four games away.

by sprite on Oct 29, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

the magnitude of Mendoza’s sucktitude. Valuable valuable stuff.

It’s only valuable if everyone REMEMBERS Mendoza’s suckitude and stops using him.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by Lisa W on Oct 29, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mendoza and Wright

Observe – 2008 stats:

Mendoza – 51 ERA+ 1.926 WHIP
Wright – 86 ERA+, 1.518 WHIP

And yet Washington kept throwing them both in there. Over and over.

by FuturePants on Oct 29, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had to come back for this

I found this poll doing a Google blog search, and it’s hilarious that Sidney has almost as many votes as Milton Bradley.

Sponsor of the Sidney Ponson page at Baseball-Reference.com

by Mary1966 on Oct 29, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just remember

When deciding who the team MVP is you have to find the best player and then pick the guy hitting directly behind him the most often. So, Milton Bradley was the best hitter on the team hitting 4th regularly with your team MVP David Murphy hitting 5th the most often.

"Colt mccoy sucks, mack brown needs to be fired." - Longhorn

by LSBUser on Oct 29, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Kinsler

Would have been a MVP candidate if he finished the year.

I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.

by TheBZA on Oct 29, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

haha

And I would have been an All-Star if I had finished coach-pitch.

I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.

by TheBZA on Oct 29, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kins Kong is the man!

The boy can do it all……well maybe some improvement with the glove but besides that …he had an awesome year.

Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08

by LAMuscleFag on Oct 29, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

kinsler over josh

by a hair

he gets points off for missing the time he did, but that also showed just how much the Rangers missed him

by tangiers on Oct 29, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

No Chris Shelton or Joselo Diaz?

In all seriousness, went with Bradley. A good case can be made for any of the Big Three.

by Joey Matschulat on Oct 29, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

What about Elizardo

Is that how you spell that weirdo’s name?

by FuturePants on Oct 29, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hay Adam,

any chance you can change the main poll? It’s been on there forever.

by Kinslerhomer on Oct 29, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Had to go with Kinsler

Its tough between Bradley, Kinsler, and Hamilton, but in the end I think Kinsler was the team’s most valuable player. And part of that is just a gut feeling, so I might feel differently after a good meal :D

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Oct 29, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Hambone over Kinsler

Simply because of the amount of time that Kinsler missed.

by hiafex on Oct 29, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Mendoza

hands down.

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by t ball on Oct 29, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Omitted

The bullpen catcher. It wasn’t his fault that guys ready to go into games didn’t have as good a receiver to throw to, once in there.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Oct 29, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Some quick counting stats on the main three candidates. . .

Hamilton: 57.1 vorp, -11 plus/minus
Bradley: 56.9 vorp, +3 plus/minus (in fewer than 170 innings)
Kinsler: 54.6 vorp, -15 plus/minus

by philkid3 on Oct 29, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Ian Kinsler was on his way

to having a superstar season before going down with injury. Easily the MVP.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Oct 29, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It kind of ruins the run if we have to start asking for Boy Blunder references. Josey makes me sad today.

by FuturePants on Oct 29, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough call...

Hamilton the slight edge over Kinsler.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Oct 29, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

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