Jim Callis chatty goodness
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 8, 2008 2:54 PM CDT
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Marie: (Daly City, CA): Who do you think the giants would pick if the draft was today? A position player, a pitcher, or the best available player?Jim Callis: Best available player -- teams at the top of the draft always do this, unless they're crazy.
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Mark (Boston): Potential Delusional Red Sox trade question: Would Bowden or Bard + Level B prospect pry Teagarden away from the Rangers?
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123 (456): Does adding Bowden to a group in Texas that includes Hurley, Harrison, Hunter, Feldman, and Mendoza really make that much sense? Texas seems to have a lot of major league ready mid- to back-of-the-rotation starters.
Kyle (KC): Can you see Texas putting together a package to go after Greinke?
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The Dirkatron (USA): Pick the best Rangers' pitching prospect not named Holland or Feliz.
For those of you who don't know why the first question might be Rangers-related, you haven't been reading the "the Rangers' 2008 draft sucked because they took Smoak instead of a pitcher" complaints from the past few days...
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Agree with Callis..
.. especially that the Rangers need to pick the best catcher and keep him. They also need to get that decision right.. its not everyday you have a logjam at catcher. (See Einar Diaz).
by mattrpav on Oct 8, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get your analogy
We didn’t have Diaz we traded for him.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No analogy..
.. just referencing back to a time when we did not have catching prospects.
by mattrpav on Oct 8, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more often that not you have to severely overpay for a catcher...
rather than have a plethora of young ones ready to step in around.
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by rangers85 on Oct 8, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What i love
about the rangers pitching depth right now is that it is staggerred throughout the system. I know ill be forgetting some players but: Hunter, Harrison and Hurley are right there. Holland and Feliz are knocking on the door. Kiker, Main and Beavan are right in the middle around high A or AA. Font, Boscan, Perez, and Ross are young and exciting at the lower levels. Seems like once one group gets settled the next group will be knocking on the door. I mean hell, dare I say it, by the time one of the last group is ready could pitching be a major league strength? Perhaps…
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
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by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great observation...
…and I agree, this is one of the best features of the farm right now. These guys should be arriving in waves.
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Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on Oct 8, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully what it does
Is create internal competition and keeps them all on their toes and not feel entitled to a rotation spot.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that it will end
up doing exactly that. I mean with all this depth and talent I just cant imagine 3 or 4 of these not developing into solid starters. This is precisely why the pitching coach selection is SO crucial this offseason.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
fingers crossed on the pitching coach search!
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am not sure who i am pulling for but i would be interested to see what they think about rick peterson
since he WAS there when the “big 3” of the a’s were coming up (IIRC?)
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard rumor that he was also the mastermind behind the Kazmir/Zambrano deal
Though I have no idea if that’s true or not.
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by thedirkatron on Oct 9, 2008 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard the same
but can you call anyone involved in the mets side a mastermind?
by bushe on Oct 9, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the story was...
The Mets brass had such confidence in Peterson as pitching coach that they thought he could mold Zambrano into the pitcher they wanted him to be, not necessarily that Peterson himself was pushing for the deadl.
by venturafearsnolan on Oct 9, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt know about Bowden being available
in the Gagne trade..
by tyd3311 on Oct 8, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If he was
We wouldn’t have gotten Beltre
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
that’s true, though we’ve assumed it is.
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by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just going off what ive always heard
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were only 2 people who thought Smoak was a bad pick
Both turned out to be steal home.
by LiamP on Oct 8, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly...
we should have taken a ton of pitchers like Brian Gordon instead.
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by rangers85 on Oct 8, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that Smoak pick is really gonna bite us in the ass...
…right about the twelfth of never.
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Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on Oct 8, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He may be able to land us Halladay.
This coming trade deadline…
by tyd3311 on Oct 8, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I see either he or Davis...
…ultimately being traded. Smoak is too good defensively to be a DH and Davis looks like a plus-defensive 1B too. If Davis doesn’t end up in the OF or having a miraculous improvement at 3B then one of them will have to be dealt.
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by Chad Crudup on Oct 8, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not sure
but is davis better/worse than braun was at 3b?
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean this guy?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/braunst01.shtml
I see that he played 310 games at 3B in his career but I have no memory of his ability at the position.
Or did you mean this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Seinfeld_minor_characters#lloydbraun
I don’t know if he could field a one-hop smash but he sure could sell the hell out of computers.
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by Chad Crudup on Oct 9, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
yes ryan b raun who was evidently god aweful at 3b
and worse than mat gamel – kid has 123 errors over the last 4 years!!!
frrom minorleagueball
Defense remains the main problem. He’s cut his error rate this year…18 errors thus far for a .906 fielding percentage, very poor but not as bad as last year’s horrific .826 mark. He has the range and arm strength but may simply never have the reliability. He runs well enough to play an outfield corner, so that’s an option eventually, although it would be more convenient if the Brewers had a DH option of course.
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are some...
…gruesome numbers.
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by Chad Crudup on Oct 9, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea evidently he is absolutely HORRIBLE on defense
but where are they gonna move him?
1b? already have prince
corner OF? have hart in RF, braun in LF
what i would do if i were them is consider trading prince for another pitcher (cain?), move gamel to 1b, move weeks to CF (hope that weeks follows the bj upton mold), move hardy to 3b, let alcides escobar be the ss, let bill hall (signed through 2010)/counsell be the 2b (mark ellis?) and find a catcher (jason effing kendall does not cut it)
FA SP:
garland/lowe/looper/randy wolf type
that leaves their rotation as:
gallardo
suppan (signed through 2010 + 2011 club option)
bush
manny para
seth mcclung? villanueva? zach jackson? potential FA?
not a bad team and could potentially compete in the shitty NL central
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak....
1) Would not be able to land us Halladay without signifcant additions to the package.
2) Smoak is not eligible to be traded at next year’s trade deadline.
by Topgun22 on Oct 8, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what he means by this coming deadline
And I don’t think it would require “significant” additions either. Laporta and a couple decent prospects got Sabathia. Something like Smoak and maybe a Tim Murphy and a Jose Vallejo would be a good package for some team
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I read "until next years deadline"
So disregard the title of my last comment
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Halladay...
The Brewers got half of a season of Sabathia for LaPorta+. If I’m not mistaken, by trading for Halladay at next year’s deadline we would be getting him for a year and a half. I believe he is signed through 2010.
by Topgun22 on Oct 8, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Halladay
It may require a “significant” addition if we are going to go after a guy like Halladay who is signed beyond next season. But if this club is in the mix next July like I believe they will be then a rental for Smoak + a couple mid level prospects is fine. We have depth at 1B which is exactly what Milwaukee did. Plus we would get the draft pick compensation if the FA leaves.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure their GM
has a strange crush on a few more Ranger players that aren’t actually good. Plus, if Smoak is as good as advertised for all of next season, we could probably trade for Halladay next offseason and not have to add much more to the deal.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 8, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure their GM
will say something stupid about Halladay’s moral fortitude between now and next July.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
topgun
cant he be a PTNBL?
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can
The Blue Jays would pretty much just have to hold off on him being a part of their system for a couple of months.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 9, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think they would be ok with that
much like cincy was with owens this year iirc?
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that's
a long, long time.
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by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowden
I’m not sure he’s better than Hurley or Harrison, but I wouldn’t mind having him around.
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by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can see him on par with Hurley
but Harrison is looking great and looks to have the potential to go past that “mid rotation” label he’s had throughout the minors.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 8, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that we didn't trade for Bowden
Makes me think less of him already.
I like our scouts.
by tyd3311 on Oct 8, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A valid argument
could be made on that point.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So IF we do a deal with the sox
is it buchholz or bust?
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
though he almost reminds me of Kam Loe.
by tyd3311 on Oct 8, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except his fastball sits in the mid to upper 90's
by CRUSHDAVIS on Oct 8, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may not stay in the upper 90's but he was hitting 97 in some starts
by CRUSHDAVIS on Oct 8, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bullshit
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Oct 8, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm calling shenanigans.
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by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His listed average fb velocity from this season was 89.5, so, um... he doesn't sit in the mid-90's.
Doesn’t mean he’s not good, though.
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by thedirkatron on Oct 8, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's using
kilometers per hour I think.
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by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reminds me...
of Kingpin
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Oct 8, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be as well...
Which one do you think they value more? I would tend to think masterson but i could be wrong. If so, would you deal teagarden for masterson knowing full well teagarden is probably your best catched?
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see
a Salty for Masterson trade happening this offseason. It is known that the Red Sox like Salty, and I am a huge fan of Masterson. As we have talked about ad nauseum around here, any time you have the chance to pick up a true groundball/strikeout pitcher, you do it.
Plus, by next September we could be talking about how the Teixeira trade allowed us to fit three pieces into our rotation in Harrison, Feliz, and Masterson.
by clark on Oct 8, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my problem with that (if we can talk baseball instead of banning)...
a 2010 rotation of Holland, Feliz, McCarthy, Harrison, and Masterson or whoever else (Hurley?) is exciting to think about… it means players have developed but it is also a VERY young rotation. I know we like to talk about our prospects arriving in waves, but wouldn’t it be nice to have some veteran leadership somewhere on this staff? Perhaps if McCarthy and Harrison, both, have a healthy 09 and truly establish themselves this year it will give me more comfort. But right now, that looks like a rotation that would have the potential to be very solid. And in 2010 we need to be certain our staff is solid so that we can actually contend (for more than just a WC spot).
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Oct 8, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tampa Bay is pretty young
But they are also veteran at the same time.
In 2010 McCarthy will hopefully have had over 2 full seasons with parts of 2 other seasons in the majors
Harrison would have 1 + years in the majors
Holland, Feliz, and Masterson would all have some time in the majors.
And Hurley would have 1 + years in the majors.
Not exactly TB but not all rookies either. With our offense I think we could compete with that young of a staff.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see i am okay with a young rotation
as long as they aren’t all rookies the same year.
Masterson is getting some great experience this year with the Red Sox, pitching in key situations down the stretch and now gaining valuable playoff experience. Plus, there is not a significant correlation between big league experience and success. Looking at the top pitchers in baseball this year, the list is littered with very young pitchers, many of them in their first, second, or third complete season of starting.
by clark on Oct 8, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree,,,
Big Steve, the Rays (today) on average would be about a year older (than this projected 2010 Ranger rotation)… not significant, but Kazmir, Shields and Jackson all had real Major League experience. Garza was a question mark, but had such a high ceiling. Sonnastine was probably just luck.
I guess all I’m saying is wouldn’t it be nice to mix in a Derek Lowe (FA), Tim Hudson (FA 2010), or even a John Lackey (FA 2010)? I know it will cost a ton more than our low cost home grown guys – but it would give me more confidence in their dependability. Maybe the answer isn’t a FA, maybe it’s a trade. But trading for one veteran pitcher would be somewhere towards the top of my priority list.
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Oct 8, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have
Padilla through ’09 and Millwood through ’10 which may keep you from doing much this offseason.
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by DJCahill on Oct 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's Millwood's option?
for 2010? 12M?
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Oct 8, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
but he’ll have to pitch 180+ innings next year. If he can do that, my prediction is that he’ll be much more worth the 2010 contract than we think he would be now.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 8, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd give him 12mm for '10 right now.
He’s a LAIE, and those are valuable.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Oct 8, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't give it to him now
not much point when you can push off the decision til later. He could always develop serious arm trouble next year.
I do think folks would look more favorably on him if our defense wasn’t so atrocious.
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by DJCahill on Oct 9, 2008 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah
I was just talking hypothetically if I had to make the decision now I would go ahead and give him that much for ’10.
Obviously since you can you put that decision off to safeguard against a major injury like TJ surgery and/or the Red Lobster down the street from his condo launching an all-you-can-eat buffet.
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by thedirkatron on Oct 9, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TB
I agree that your projected 2010 rotation wouldn’t be what TB is right now. But TB also didn’t have the offense that we do. We don’t have to have a top 5 rotation to win. We just don’t. Hell we were almost .500 this year with horrible pitching. But if that young rotation can be what TB was last year with our offense in two years we will make the playoffs. Maybe not the WS but playoffs nonetheless. Then in 2011 we can go further.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jackson
talk about a guy i thought was going to be a STAR
http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jacksed01.shtml
19 – 22 ip
20 – 24 ip
21 – 28 ip
22 – 30 ip
23 -161 ip
24 – 183 ip
http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jacksed01.shtml
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very doubtful.
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by thedirkatron on Oct 9, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals
Bet they could get a couple get years out of him.
by tyd3311 on Oct 9, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea but still
i thought he was going to be a star back when he was 19/20 lol
him and greg miller were both HOSSES in the minors
age 18: 4 starts at AA, 7:40 bb/k, 1.00 era, .81 whip
then got hurt
going into 04 had “best curveball” and “best slider” in dodgers system. after his age 18 year.
he is a guy i KNEW was the next big thing but then he hurt his shoulder in ST in 04 and was never the same (7.71 era at AAA this year)
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
Someone is always here to shout me down when I say that, but I’d like to have him on the staff. At the right price I’d like to have Bard too.
by Brett Perryman on Oct 8, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Masterson
One of the few things that I disagree with you on, so I’m probably wrong, but I just have a hard time seeing a guy with only 2 pitches, both of which sit in the eighties, and shaky control last as a ML starter.
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by tricer on Oct 8, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bullpen
Even is he doesn’t pan out as a starter I think he could be quite valuable in the bullpen.
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by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the best we can get for Salty
is a reliever, I’d just as soon hang onto him.
"So he tore it up in AA. Yippee. ...Max Ramirez be damned." - bigsteve
by tricer on Oct 8, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the thing I don't understand the most
Its not just that you’d want to trade something of value for Masterson, you’re talking about Salty, the 23/24 year old former top catching prospect, who has seen his stock drop a ton simply because of the Rangers failure to deal with their catching logjam correctly.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 8, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious
And not being sarcastic at all, what was the best way to handle the logjam in your opinion?
by RangersOCD on Oct 8, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that they really needed to commit to one guy
When Laird started hitting, they should have traded him for the best they could get to open up a full time audition for Salty. And not a 30 day trial thing followed by a 2 starts a week stint. I think this team needed to dedicate at least a half season to Salty being the full-time starter. If he failed, then Teagarden or Ramirez get the next whack at things. It might not keep all their values up, but it makes sure we end up with a great catcher.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 8, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"it makes sure..."?
it makes sure we end up with a great catcher.
Just not sure I agree with that. While I would have loved for Laird to have been moved, if the right value wasn’t there, no need to deal. Seeing a guy perform for 3 months, even at the major league level, does not insure we have a great catcher.
I think the way to handle it is to decide which is most important to the team (front office, manager, etc) in a catcher: plus offense or plus defense. If it’s offense, deal Tea and/or Laird, and roll with Salty until you’re certain he is or isn’t the guy you hoped he was when you traded Teix. If defense is most important, get what you can for Salty and Laird (hopefully packaging one of them with a prospect or two for a perspective 1 or 2 pitcher). Now if someone wants to blow us away with an offer for Teagarden, I would move him and roll with…possibly even extend Laird.
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Oct 8, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing is for sure and that is that Laird
on his own wasn’t ever going to land us a top of the rotation starter nor was his value likely to skyrocket that much after early in the season where he would be able to get back something significantly better by holding onto him for the rest of the season and not playing the young guys. Even packaging Laird with someone for a top of the rotation guy, we would have had to add some major talent to that deal.
Now we still have a lot of guesswork with our catchers where we are basing all decisions off scouting reports, minor league stats, and a small amount of inconsistent playing time in the Majors for the most part. This isn’t the same as when the Braves knew they could afford to trade Salty because of McCann. We might be able to get a great return for one of our catchers, but that might be the only one that actually turns out to reach his potential.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 9, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
top of the rotation prospect
in the mold of feliz, no
but i would think he could be paired with a lower minor league pitcher and bring back a fairly good prospect at the upper levels…
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by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Masterson could be a starter
and his high K, high groundball combo with good command seems like exactly the kind of pitcher the Rangers should pursue, and I think he’ll be better than Bowden. Here’s what John Sickels says about Masterson:
Masterson projects as a number three inning-eating, sinkerballing starter if his changeup comes around. He may end up in the bullpen, though, and he has the confidence and mentality to be a closer if necessary.
In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.
by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
zy
would you do salty/? for bard/masterson?
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Z
But hell to the no.
If we didn’t have Max, Laird and Tea, would even consider Bard for a a guy like Salty?
Of course you wouldn’t.
Never deal a guy for less than he’s worth just cause you have someone in front of him.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Oct 9, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would rather have beltre than bowden though
masterson > bowden as well in my eyes
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoaks
Who in the world said he was a bad pick? I want to know now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA
by mchang4 on Oct 8, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Billy Beane ;-)
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steal home and...
Steal home pt 2
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for the giants yes,
but if it is the Rangers, you take a pitcher
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you're an idiot
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so we dont need pitching? right?
we sure didnt need it in 2000, last in the league, 5.52 ERA
not 2001, last in the league again, 5.71 ERA
not 2002,ooooo 27th, 5.15 ERA
defintently not 2003, last in the league, 5.67 ERA but still no WE NEED HITTERS
not 2004, 18th, 4.53 ERA
not 2005 , 26th in the league, 4.95 ERA BUT STILL NOT WE NEED HITTTTTERS!
for sure not 2006, 18th, 4.60 ERA,
not 2007, 24th , 4.75 ERa
AND FOR SURE, not 2008, LAST IN THE LEAGUE, 5.37 ERA
but no we obviously do not need pitching, even though we have finished above 20th 2 times since 2000 and our average ERA over the last 9 years is 5.14
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The argument isn't about whether we need pitching or not
The argument is that you take the best player available in the 1st round of the draft especially when you are picking in the top of the draft. Reaching for a pitcher just for the sake of drafting a pitcher leads to you passing on good quality players like have been mentioned before for guys who never sniff the bigs.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thought i'd add this as high as i could...
Mike (Dallas): Law Dog, Why do the Rangers continue to send talent out of the door with regard to pitching? That is exactly what they need…i.e. Chris Young, Francisco Rodriguez, Danks…
Keith Law: Continue? Danks was traded two years ago. Young earlier than that. They’ve been stockpiling arms for about 22 months now.
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 9, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We would have, but...
… when the Astros were stupid enough to reach like they did, and the fact that we have almost 15 potential starters in the pipeline… if a quality bat falls to us, you take it.
We did steal Ross with the next pick… so we got our stud pitcher AND stud bat.
In a beautiful world, Davis would end up being a little above average at 3rd and we could keep Smoak and plug him in at 1st. What a lineup. But reality isn’t likely to allow it.
Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!
by pbpsean on Oct 8, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Oct 8, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
LOL'd....
…wow…
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should probably only use that line maybe 2 other times in your life
but it was pretty good right there
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Oct 8, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good line
consider it stolen by me.
BTW, if we just totally ignore this moron, he will go away.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Oct 9, 2008 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not pro-choice but...
…I laughed at that line. Kudos.
Physician: Primum non nocere
Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on Oct 9, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FLAME ON!
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ill bite...
who would have you taken? Josh Fields, right?
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or perry
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just from limited
memory since the recent craze of taking closers LATE in the first round has happened I believe that Huston Street is the only mildly successful one. It took him about a year or to get up with the A’s I believe. Since we are using the best case scenario with closers lets us a best case for Smoak as well I mean ive heard Morneau, Tex, and Palmeiro thrown around even a heyday Tood Helton. Would you trade any of those guys for Street? I dont think so, at least I hope not.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good pt
now would good ol seth trade any of those guys for morrow?
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
Morrow started at Berkeley and Seattle took him 5th.
by LiamP on Oct 8, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
morrow was a starter in college
99% sure
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i didnt actually know
I just vaguely remember Josh and Tom talking about college pitchers making it to the majors on the fast track, and i thought i remembered them saying Morrow was a college reliever.
by tyd3311 on Oct 9, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a swing guy (between starting and relieving) until his junior year
when he really took off and made all 14 of his appearances as a starter.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Oct 9, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah a swinger...
…I’ve played ball with a few guys like that before.
Physician: Primum non nocere
Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on Oct 9, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perry wasnt just a closer, he started half of the time
and he has flashed a 98mph fastball. and i yes, for the rangers, i would trade morrow for Tex or Morneau
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would really
give up tex or morneau for morrow? wow…I say this to you
Seth, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And actually let me apply
that quote to everything you have said today on this thread.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what consistently good from year-to-year pitchers have we had in the last 25 years?
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ismael Valdez?
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Oct 8, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joey Devine
Though it took trading him to the A’s for him to flourish
by Requiem on Oct 8, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
but he was seen as near MLb ready out of college and no one; was too sure what happened to him in the braves system
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So u are saying that it is better to reach for a pitcher that isn't worth an 11 pick
rather than take a 1B some ranked as a top 3 overall prospect. That is ignorant.
by CRUSHDAVIS on Oct 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE HITTERS. EVERY YEAR WE NEED PITCHING
AND SINCE WE HAVE SMOAK, HE WILL BE BLOCKED BY DAVIS THEN JD WILL MAKE ANOTHER SHITTY TRADE AND WE’LL GET NOTHING
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's to say we'd of drafted a good pitcher?
thats a nonsensical argument… so picking a better commodity is bad because he is guaranteed to be traded for one that isn’t very good… logic ever?
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its better to take a chance on getting a good pitcher rather than getting another good hitter
WE HAVEN’T FINISHED IN THE TOP HALF OF PITCHING SINCE 1983, LET ME REPEAT THAT, WE HAVEN’T FINISHED IN THE TOP HALF OF PITCHING SINCE 1983
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i could understand that if i was just replying to random peoples posts
but im replying to people who are talking to me, whats wrong with that
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Obviously we need pitching. But don’t you think a Smoak can get you a mediocre MLB 5th starter – surely Smoak plus a throw in nobody prospect? You are essentially advocating drafting what will, best case, be a 4 or 5 starter at the expense of a top 5 pick talent. That makes no sense; you draft Smoke, then you trade Smoak later when someone really needs him.
The whole argument that Chris Davis is blocking Smoak is silly as well because that’s not happenning. Smoak isn’t even playing pro ball 5 days a week at this point!
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I guess Milwaukee shouldn’t have drafted Laporta a couple years ago because he wasn’t a pitcher.
Oh thats right in 2 years time they turned Laporta into CC Sabathia and made the playoffs.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and who is their GM?
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and ours cant trade prospects
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because when your REBUILDING
you dont trade prospects
i guess you think we should have traded davis for cc sabithia this trade deadline even though were way out of it, right?
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i never said he should trade them right now
when/if smoak gets blocked by Chris Davis then we will have to trade Smoak and Jonny boy hasnt made one good trade with our side giving away prospects, i.e. Danks, Young/Gonzalez, Galarraga.
by steal home. on Oct 9, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would we trade prospects?
That, like the majority of your other comments and your “departure letter,” make no sense.
by FuturePants on Oct 9, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so now...
…who there GM is is the problem… i thought you said pitching was the problem!?!… so its not that we need pitching, its that the GMs since 1983 weren’t doing a good job of judging and acquiring it…
its about ’effin time you got somewhere near sane.
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we dont need more meidocre 5th staters
if Ryan Perry and Joshua Fields get to the bigs, they wont be medicore 5th starters, i can guarantee you that.
and i would agree with drafting Smoak if our Gm doesnt have a horrible, horrible, horrible history of trading prospects
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, so here's the scenario, Seth.
The Rangers have the No. 3 overall pick. They have their choice of the following:
-A college pitcher who has had Tommy John surgery, but went on to set his school’s record for wins and strikeouts. He’s a top 15 pick, and maybe (maaaaybe) a top 10 pick, but you’d be reaching for him at No. 3.
-A third baseman who won the Dick Howser trophy and OPS’d over 1.300 for his college career. Almost definitely the best talent on the board.
Who do you pick?
"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer
by ghtd36 on Oct 8, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PICK PITCHERS
DON’T YOU WATCH THE GAME?…
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whose our GM
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are.
"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer
by ghtd36 on Oct 8, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
god help us.
seth’s the obvious problem at this point as morphed, no longer is it “we need pitching”… its has become “we need a competent GM to trade for pitching or acquire pitching”… and if you look at our minors, i think we have a Gm who is capable of doing such things when he is not being pushed on by Owners or Directors of Operations or Nosey Managers who’s names might rhyme with shuck bowalter…
disagreements?
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon, Seth. I'm waiting.
Who do you pick?
"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer
by ghtd36 on Oct 8, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd baseman since im the GM and i know how to trade
but if i’m the Rangers w/ JD as our GM, i take the pitcher
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and let the truth set you free...
… just say you don’t like john daniels and provide a reason why?
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think its pretty obvious i dont like him
reason: he cant trade and cant build a winning team
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little soon to tell, no?
You seem to think Melvin’s doing a good job in Milwaukee because the Brewers made the playoffs this year. I seem to recall that Melvin has been on the job a lot longer than Daniels and yet this year is the first time he got them to the playoffs.
Melvin took over in October 2002. The Brewers’ records under Melvin:
2003: 68-94
2004: 67-94
2005: 81-81
2006: 75-87
2007: 83-79
2008: 90-72
Jon Daniels took over in October 2005. Rangers’ records under Daniels:
2006: 80-82
2007: 75-87
2008: 79-83
by Inkara1 on Oct 8, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and melvin already had his main players in place
iirc, prince, hardy, weeks, hart and co were ALREADY THERE
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Well, you took Mark Teixeira over Dewon Brazelton.
"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer
by ghtd36 on Oct 8, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cuz i can trade
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can trade?
you mean like the trade JD made for Teixiera?? One of the greatest trades in Rangers history
you can do better than that?
by Baseball North on Oct 8, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
0 prodcution in the bigs so far from that trade
so how in the world can that be the best trade in rangers history already?
and i can do better than trading away 2 great pitchers, 2 great hitters, and 1 good pitcher in return for nothin
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harrison was one of the guys we got back for Tex
This year was a learning year in the bigs for him, much like last year was for Danks. Who’s to say Harrison won’t perform next year like Danks did this year?
by Inkara1 on Oct 8, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so we didn't get...
…a top of the line player who can produce day one and you think that makes the trade a failure?…
this ain’t MLB08 The Show dog…
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do one thing
go read the newberg report from a few days ago, discussing the herschal walker trade.
you dont need a player who produces right away to make a trade successful… but why am i wasting my time
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 8, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to talk to a wall
don’t ya know! lol
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Oct 8, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah
“if” they get to the bigs… like i said, why pick the guy who is a bigger “if”… when the more plausible and likely guy gets to the bigs and you don’t need him you can trade for a somewhat proven MAJOR LEAGUE quality pitcher…
i think you are waivering and i’m a bit sad…
so now its the GM?…
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why? becuz we n e e d p i t c h i n g
does tht help u understand better?
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not in the least.
usually a reason involves some kind of imperical logic, reason, or opinion longer than the one i’m asking about…
you don’t like john daniels. just make that statement.
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
logic? our average ERA over the last 9 years is 5.14 and our pitching was beyond shitty last year
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
drafting for need
has it EVER worked?
kind of like the cowboys in the mid 90s when they were drafting for backups instead of taking the BPA
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That happened the draft before last too
Wow what a shitty draft.
by tyd3311 on Oct 9, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
If Perry and Fields make it they won’t be mediocre starters, they’ll probably be mediocre relief pitchers.
…and learn to spell mediocre.
by TRanger on Oct 8, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring out the banhammer
lifetime IP ban!!!
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Oct 8, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ip ban
does no good at all in a world of non static ip’s
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 8, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yet trolls keep signing on with static IPs.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Oct 8, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or simply
ignore any thread he starts or any comment he makes. I see that username and move on.
by RangersOCD on Oct 8, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please, please, please....
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Oct 8, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we don't need to.
We just need average pitching to make the playoffs with this offense. Give me 10th to 15th best pitching staff and I will take it!
Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!
by pbpsean on Oct 8, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh u must be right
I was under the impression that we were building pitchers in our farm system right now, but that just must be another JD smokescreen. All those shitty trades I can see ur frustration. We definitely were screwed in the Teixera, Gagne and Lofton deals. I dont know about everyone elso but without a doubt I would rather have Kenny Lofton for 2 months instead of MaxRam. Gagne led Boston to the world series with his incredible pitching he could have done that for us I guess. You dont take pitchers for the sake of drafting them because ur big league team sucks at it. Most of those players are years away anyway, jackass.
by CRUSHDAVIS on Oct 8, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohhh right teixera, gagne, and lofton were all prospects when they got traded
and Danks, Gonzalez, and Young were all vets. same with Smoak, hes a vet too
ooo and texeira, gagne, and lofton trades have got us big whopping of nothing in the big leagues
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing, really nothing?
Let’s see from the Tex trade Harrison and Salty are here.
From the Gagne trade Murphy and Gabbard are here.
From the Lofton trade Max has made it also.
So from those 3 trades 5 players have made it out of the 9 players JD got from them. You are a dumbass.
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Oct 8, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harrison sucks, Salty sucks, Gabbard sucks, Max hasnt done anything in the bigs, and Murphy did alright but hes hurt
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and another dude comes out of no where and attacks me without me even talkin to him
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry..
stupidity is like chum around here…
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should show you how ridiculous your comments are...
…when someone you have never even spoken with on here just jumps in the middle of a thread simply to tell you that “your [sic] an ass.” I don’t necessarily think you’re an ass, but you are hardheaded. Now StealHome; HE was an ass.
by FuturePants on Oct 9, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
harrison sucks?
seth’s only acceptable rotation:
1) Beckett
2) Santana
3) C. Zambrano
4) Peavy
5) Liriano
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right because those are the only guys with ERAs better than 5.49?
right? geez your a dumbass
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi
Please let me know whether you think the following pitchers are any good based on their 1st year performance:
Pitcher A: 86.0 IP, 102 H, 54 BB, 64 SO, 6.49 ERA
Pitcher B: 50 IP, 55 H, 33 BB, 20 SO, 5.54 ERA
Pitcher C: 155.7 IP, 181 H, 74 BB, 101 SO, 5.61 ERA
Pitcher D: 64 IP, 74 H, 33 BB, 37 SO, 5.48 ERA
by Telegraph on Oct 8, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they cant be good
they all had eras over 5.49. career fail.
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you give us their first full seasons
other than the 155 IP guy, all the other numbers are based on small sample size. I assume they are all good to great players, then I would also assume they were league average by their 3rd year in the league, and were probably league average their 2nd year.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Oct 9, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the point that SH was trying to make, I am simply reminding him that he can't use first year ERA
By the way, Pitcher A is Johann Santana, B is Tom Glavine, C is Greg Maddux, and D John Smoltz
by Telegraph on Oct 10, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're... but i'm not the spelling nazi.
to say matt harrison sucks is incredibly short sighted and completely assinine…
you’re basically saying trades are only good as long as they produce impact in year one… dumb.
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see here...
John Danks, year 1: 139.0 IP in 26 starts, 5.50 ERA, WHIP 1.540.
John Danks, year 2: 195.0 IP in 33 starts, 3.32 ERA, WHIP 1.226.
Matt Harrison, year 1: 83.7 IP in 15 starts, 5.49 ERA, WHIP 1.566.
Matt Harrison, year 2: ?
by Inkara1 on Oct 8, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TEACH THAT MAN A CUTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/sarcasm
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you Josey
Whines’ kid?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought you said a couple of weeks you were "done" with LSB?
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In capital letters or
lower case, you’re still an idiot. IDIOT. Idiot. Let’s try italics, idiot. How about bold? Idiot.
You are so smart. Oops, I meant you’re an
idiot
.
In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.
by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are soo funny, i wish i was more like you
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I take that as an insult.
In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.
by t ball on Oct 8, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As would I
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Oct 8, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if it was you
it would be genius of you to be him.
by tyd3311 on Oct 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rangers reaching to taking a pitcher with the 11th overall pick = astros reaching to take jason castro with the 10th overall pick
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you not read what he said?
teams at the top of the draft always do this, unless they’re crazy.
Not “unless they’re crazy or the Rangers.”
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 8, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes it better to be crazy rather than logical
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely
Like how it was logical to rebuild after the 2000 season, but instead we signed A-fraud for “crazy” money.
by chrisR on Oct 8, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you do realize
that the problem with the rangers had nothing at all to do with arod right?
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
The problem was the “decision” to sign him and other expensive FAs.
by chrisR on Oct 9, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
The problem was the "decision" to signhim and otherexpensive FAs.
the guy won an MVP while he was here, his attitude may have been a problem but we signed him for the long term, he was going to be the face of the franchise (one more reason to hate him, it made mike young the FOTF lol) for a loooong time
but the guy did nothing but produce while he was here and NEARLY brought back lester AND manny (damn you hicks)
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
It was the player’s union the ones who killed the trade. Because they were against restructuring A-Rod’s contract, I think.
Anyway, I agree that A-Rod was excellent on the field. What I’m trying to say is that he should have never been signed in the first place. One player does not turn a team into a winner.
I guess what I’m trying to say, is that the real culprit was the owner for thinking this team could be a winner when, instead, we should’ve been rebuilding.
by chrisR on Oct 9, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it was killed in the end
because hicks wouldnt add more money to our side of the deal/pay more of arods contract
…and then he turned around and added money for the yankees deal
the real culprit was the owner for thinking this team could be a winner when, instead, we should’ve been rebuilding.
+1
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think there is a GM job in Detroit you can snag
(switched sports)
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Oct 8, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seth. = steal home pt 2
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steal Home/Seth. and
seasmurf said,
Pick for need, Dammit!!!! 1st round draft choices should make an immediate impact!
…then they all ate a 9mm…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey just make sure
whomever you take first (and he BETTER be a pitcher) gets some love.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Oct 8, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol'd
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not immediate impact
3 years from now the need will be pitching. EVERY FUCKING YEAR IT IS. HAVE YOU NOT WATCHED THE A RANGER GAME?
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"THE A RANGER GAME?"
fuck the heck?… again, i’m calling nonsense…
if you are going to be specific and use caps to prove a point… don’t be a ‘tard… i always screw up… but at least i don’t do it in caps… annoying….
the higher up in the draft you select, the greater the likely hood you are drafting someone who will turn into a major leaguer… and moreover a good player in the majors… drafting for need makes you reach down the available list for someone who is LESS likely to reach their ceiling, and a lower ceiling at that…
why would you select someone who is less likely to develop? especially if that development is 3+ years away when you have NO IDEA what your needs are going to be…
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps...
Seth was using Olde English… as in: Kind sir, Have you not watched thee a Ranger Game?
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Oct 8, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no idea? EVERY YEAR THE NEED IS P-I-T-C-H-I-N-G
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, no idea? and you call yourself a ranger fan?
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next time you reply to yourself,
…use your sockpuppet, Steal Home.
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasnt talking to myself
talkin to ivy safety, you dumbass
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go away.
I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.
by TheBZA on Oct 8, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ip ban, wasnt talkin to you
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I contribute from time to time
You, however, are a cock punch.
I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.
by TheBZA on Oct 8, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you continue to endear yourself to us all.
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ip ban
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you even know what that means?
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably thinks it means
not being allowed to pee
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 9, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously,
why the hell do you keep talkin to me when i haven’t even replied to any of your posts besides the ones that are directed to me?
"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008
To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE
by Seth. on Oct 8, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would love to see the team...
…that makes it all the way with no one playing the field or scoring runs.
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it be great if his IP came back to the FWST
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 8, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Galloway
either, and his schtick is incredibly weak, but seems effective in stirring up controversy. But the idea that he’s creeping around here trying to prove his point of view to the blogging community is below the level of absurd.
by mcgee48c on Oct 8, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
we’re just having a little fun
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
by hinduplaya on Oct 8, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you guys are joking
by ridiculing Galloway, who deserves it. There are so many ways to make him look stupid without fantasizing that he would care to debate you guys. A nice little ego trip.
Sort of like rec’ing yourself.
by mcgee48c on Oct 8, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't rec yourself
We are not placating ourselves either by thinking Grandpa Urine is amongst us steve was just screwing around but it would be funny huh.
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Oct 8, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that deserves a rec
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
by hinduplaya on Oct 8, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gawd this thread
was a great big pile of SUCK!
Please ban the moran…no further explanation needed.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Suck Indeed
i couldn’t even read half the crap in this thread.
And for the love of all that is holy, learn to turn off the caps lock people!
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 8, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By people
you must mean the dual-personality moran Seth.(.)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
multi personalities are people too!
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 8, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
morOn.
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a reference to a previous post….
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know...
….i just wanted to throw in the unneeded caps letter…
"He wont have anything. 1 man, 0 tools."~ hiafex bout longhorn...
by ivysafety39 on Oct 8, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okey dokey
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The offseason has barely started
and already everyone is grouchy and grumpy. We need to get us some! (baseball, that is )
by BEW on Oct 8, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How come that last question seems so much more ruggedly handsome than the others?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Oct 8, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably because whoever that guy is hails from the USA.
USA! USA! USA!
But what a stupid name…:)
"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer
by ghtd36 on Oct 8, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
you guys fight like this all the time?
by jonthefon on Oct 8, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
like itchy and scratchy
we’ve got poochie too for good measure
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 8, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good Q dirkizzle.
and…who said the Rangers draft sucked for drafting Smoak? Hopefully we’re not giving too much credit to people like Galloway and Engel here…
posthocergopropterhoc
"Why bring dividing politics to this blog Adam? Why? I get enough of it everywhere else. I don’t want it on the sports blogs I read." - tasan
by Longhorn on Oct 8, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"who said..."
i take it you didn’t read any of the posts up top. btw, that is the only person that said it.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Oct 8, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, that was posted in the main story because of one blogger?
posthocergopropterhoc
"Why bring dividing politics to this blog Adam? Why? I get enough of it everywhere else. I don’t want it on the sports blogs I read." - tasan
by Longhorn on Oct 8, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not just and poster
it was the great seth/steal home/nice hands!
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Oct 8, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You met another and
POOF you was gone…"
Heehaw finally came in handy for me there. Let’s hope it’s permanent this time.
:)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
by Rodney on Oct 8, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The funny part is that i spent a lot of time answering this same queastion for Seth
in the Danks/McCarthy thread, but he stopped posting there. Now he does the same arguments that was used yesterday.
I don’t mind banter or the negativity, i do mind the fact that he hasn’t learned from previous experience or tweaked his argument in any shape or form. I hoped for the best, but it is starting to look that the leopard hasn’t changed his spots
by laxtonto on Oct 8, 2008 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
or as emmitt would say
a leopard can’t change his stripes.
yes he actually said that. One of my favorite players of all time in any sport, but man the guy must have glided through school. He so stupid, he failed in the school of life.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Oct 9, 2008 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
This has been hard to watch: Emmitt Smith’s journey from great running back to celebrated ballroom dancer and, now, to failed Tinker Bell.
Since joining ESPN in March, the former Cowboy has zoomed by the competition, passing Skip Bayless, Dan Marino and Stephen A. Smith. Soon, he could overtake Tony Siragusa as the media’s MPP, most painful person to watch/hear.
It’s not Smith’s fault, of course, that his considerably round talents don’t fit into the square hole of broadcasting. He didn’t hire himself. The NFL’s all-time leader in rushing attempts (4,409), yards (18,355) and touchdowns (164), Smith can walk proudly into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2010, but that doesn’t make him a broadcaster.
And as an ESPN football analyst, Smith is conspicuously inept. No, to call him inept insults inept people: He’s woefully incompetent. But here’s the important question: What does his presence say about the network that put him there?
As one of the analysts on NFL Countdown, Smith babbles, bumbles and stutters while generally insulting the language. He sometimes fumbles his facts and frequently seems unprepared. He can’t even get a cliché right.
About Green Bay’s Donald Driver, Smith said: “Tonight he’s looking to get back to paydirt so he can right size the ship right now.”
About the Cowboys’ quarterback, Smith said: “Tony Romo has the mentality to have the sense to make the play.”
When asked to summarize his thoughts in two words, he once said, “Cowboys lose big-time.”
And about this season’s grand possibilities, Smith said, “If you want to stay perfect, you can not go undefeated with a blemish on your record.”
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By GARY WEST
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/289092.html
link is dead though
"I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write." - Newt Gingrich
by knockoutking on Oct 9, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im actually writing a mock emmitt week in review for my blog
its about fantasy football and not really worth checking out unless you are in our league but its pretty funny stuff regardless. Fantasy-football-gurus.com gets you there and you can follow a link to the blog. It should be up later tonight for those who want a good laugh.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Oct 9, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
