OT : I hate ESPN...
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2008 10:49 PM CST
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And here is another reason why :
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=notebook/onthemark1110
Here comes the rant. This shit just pisses me off. This SEC homer, who of course is a grad of Georgia, has the nerve to say any team in the ACC or Big East has done more to deserve a shot in the BCS over Utah. Really? Last I checked the Utes were the original "BCS busters" in 2004 and they thumped PItt, and they would have done the same thing to any other team that year not named USC or Auburn. I'm not saying this years Utes are as good as the '04 team, I don't believe they are. However the MWC is a much better league this year than it was then and is far better than the Big East or ACC. I don't understand the lack of respect for my Utes. I don't think they should be in the NC game, but if they go undefeated why do they not belong in the BCS? The Utes could hang with almost anyone this year except perhaps Florida, Texas, Tech, and Oklahoma. They may not beat teams like Bama, USC, Penn St., OK St., etc. but they would have a shot, and they deserve that shot, I don't want to see them play another Pitt if they win their next 2 games.
There are good college football teams not in the BCS conferences. I know this may surprise some of these ESPN jackasses. Utah or TCU's defense would hold any team in the country under 20 points (except Florida, Texas, Tech, Oklahoma, and OK St.). Their defenses are that good. Why is it when they play a 13-10 game it's boring, but when a Big XII or SEC team plays a 13-10 game it's a "defensive slugfest". BYU and Boise St. would put up 40 + on most teams in country. However when they do it in their conferences it's just another "crazy WAC shootout" (even if the team isn't in the WAC anymore). However when teams in the Big XII put up 40 or 50 on each other it's a great offensive game.
Like them or not Utah and Boise St. belong in the BCS. Certainly more so than any Big East or ACC team. I think Boise St. is overrated, but they have been there before and won, and if they go undefeated then they deserve to go again. If teams in the MWC, WAC, C-USA, MAC, and Sunbelt don't deserve to go to a big bowl when they go undefeated then just seperate them from the 6 BCS conferences into their own college football subdivision.
I know many here won't care about this, but I figured I'd post it for myself to blow off some steam and for any other fans of the "mid-majors" out there. I know there are some Frog fans on this board as well. Someone needs to start to stick up for the little guy in college football and I wish someone in the media would do so as well. Damn, what I wouldn't give for a playoff system. 8 teams. Keep the Bowl system. the first 4 games can be called the Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange. Then play a Semi-Final and a Championship Game. I just don't see it happening though. These greedy BCS college presidents will never let it happen. They don't even like one of the "mid-majors" getting a little piece of the pie every other year or so.
ESPN treats college football like they do MLB. If you're not the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels, Cubs, etc. then you don't belong in the league and you get no respect. I hate them for it. End of rant.
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Agree 100%
Down with the BCS conference bias.
I cheer for Utah, BYU, TCU or whatever MWC team wants to spoil their little party every year. That Utah – TCU game was crazy last week, and while I wanted the Frogs to win, I’m now behind the Utes. Screw their little club. Let the other conferences share in the pie.
by JBImaknee on Nov 11, 2008 11:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Disclosure
I went to Rice. And it bothers me that we can never win a national championship. Not for the obvious reason (we’re awful at football), but for the “we’re in conference USA” reason. Baylor could win a national championship – though they are perennially awful – TCU cannot despite being ranked most years. Northwestern can win a national championship, Boise St cannot ever. Duke can win a national championship – Rice cannot.
This makes me almost mad enough to just ignore college football and pay attention to those college sports where the system isn’t so corrupt that 49% of the schools have no chance of ever winning (basketball, baseball)
by JBImaknee on Nov 11, 2008 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Concur...
Like you say, the fact that Duke, Baylor, Nortweetern USF, etc. have a better shot at BCS game or National Championship is just maddening.
I just love college football so much I can’t ignore it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2008 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
And Tulsa is in your conference. They don’t, and can’t, show up strong year after year, but occasionally have a monstrously good team. I think maybe it was 1984 or so, Tech was fair but not great. Game at Lubbock. IIRC the score was like 65-14 and Tulsa had emptied the bench. But they can’t possibly win out nationally, as you point out.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Nov 12, 2008 12:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pre-rec.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 11, 2008 11:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
While I savagely cheered for TCU last week, seeing as I go here
I am rooting for Utah now to bust things in the BCS.
Anyone watch PTI last week before the TCU/Utah game? Kornheiser said that Utah or TCU should apply to the Big 12/SEC/PAC 10 if they want a shot at the NC. "They should apply to the conference and tell them they’re serious about contending for a NC. I was staring at my screen for a good 5 minutes.
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by Maximilian on Nov 11, 2008 11:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kornheiser's a moron.
If only those 6 conferences are allowed to contend, they should do like european soccer and dump the bad teams to lower conferences and promote good teams up to them. Baylor and Stanford shouldn’t be eligible while TCU and Utah aren’t.
by JBImaknee on Nov 11, 2008 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No one at ESPN mentions
that the Mountain West went 6-1 against their beloved PAC 10 this year.
TCU beat a middle of the pack UNLV team 44-14, who earlier this year beat #15 at the time Arizona State. TCU beat down Stanford during the remnants of the hurricane this fall. All they’ll say is “It wasn’t our pride and joy USC, so it doesn’t matter.” They were focused on BYU being overrated this year, so they spread it all over the conference. Whatever.
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by Maximilian on Nov 11, 2008 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
The MWC has been very good against the BCS this year.
Your Frogs are damn good too btw. Damn their defense great. I was on pins and needles that entire game. It was a great game and a great atmosphere.
As for your comment above about Utah/BYU/TCU jumping conferences. I’ve heard a lot of that out here about Utah/BYU jumping to the Pac 10 so they would have a 12 team conference and could have a title game and 2 divisions like the SEC and Big XII. I’ve also heard people say TCU should be in the Big XII. When I hear that I think it would be nice for them to get that shot. However at the same time I feel like they just stay where thay are and tell those conferences to blow it out their asses. It’s not right that they shouldn’t get a shot where they are at right now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2008 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Utes played a hell of a game. I’ll be rooting for you guys to crash the BCS. Though I couldn’t help but feel bad for our kicker Ross Evans. I worked the TV utility for the Mountain Network during the San Diego State and Wyoming games and he was nice enough to chat with me near the end of games when the score was decided. Good guy and a much better kicker than that game showed.
I have a feeling that TCU is gonna have Utah logos on their tackling dummies this off season. Be forewarned.
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by Maximilian on Nov 12, 2008 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
their beloved PAC 10
My ass. I’ve heard nothing but how bad the Pac 10 is. After that weekend the MWC beat down the Pac 10 it was all over ESPN. USC always gets the love, but that’s what happens when you dominate.
No national network goes out of their way to praise the Pac 10.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 12, 2008 7:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, well maybe it's all the USC love
that overpowers it. I didn’t really hear much about about the MWC/PAC 10 weekend matchups at the time, and heard even less after they all went down, with the exception of the UNLV/AZ. State upset, and the BYU/Washington debacle. I’m not saying TCU or Utah would handily beat a USC, cause they wouldn’t. I’m not even saying they’d win, but they WOULD make a game of it.
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by Maximilian on Nov 12, 2008 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I don't get about the Pac 10 criticism though
Which OOC losses for the Pac 10 are all that bad?
This is the list:
UNLV
BYU (x2 one home one road)
@ UNM
Georgia
@ Maryland
Boise State
@ Penn State
Notre Dame (x2 one home one road)
Fresno State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Baylor
I’d say the only truly BAD losses are UNLV, New Mexico, and Baylor. The rest are all bowl teams. At least the Pac 10 has the balls to play a real schedule unlike the rest of the BCS conferences.
I will say this though — TCU, Utah, and BYU would all probably finish in the top half of the Pac 10 this year. Most years probably not. But, those 3 schools are having excellent seasons and could hang with just about anybody.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 12, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot...
Utah beat Oregon St. the week after they beat SC. =P
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 12, 2008 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
sorry — but the point is the same.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 12, 2008 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TCU's only two losses
are to Oklahoma and Utah. That’s a pretty strong resume but they will get stuck probably in the Fort Worth Bowl at their own stadium.
I used to live in Louisville and they were stuck in the same situation several years ago. When John L. Smith was coach and then when Bobby Petrino first got there, they were in Conference USA playing TCU every year, and they had some pretty good teams with Chris Redman and Stefon Lefors as their quarterbacks. They were going to the Liberty Bowl every year. Then, they got in the Big East and they went to the Orange Bowl a couple years ago and if they had beaten Rutgers would have played for the National Championship. So, while I cannot stand Kornheiser he does have a point.
The thing that someone should do is to file a lawsuit against these conferences. Litigation is the only route I can think of that could change the system, and even then it’s a long shot. Even Obama mentioned something the other day about changing the system and he was immediately shot down by the President of the University of Oregon. They don’t want to change.
And, to your original premise, I too hate ESPN, and have thought for a long time that they are ruining sports but what can you do. They are not going away and they carry everything.
"We live, we die, and the wheels on the bus go round and round." - Tony Romo
by kentbenfer on Nov 12, 2008 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See, TCU would love to play in the Big 12 or SEC.
I’d love to get out of the MWC and play in a big conference. Right now, our closest road game is Colorado State or New Mexico. That’s laughable. OU or Tech consider a trip to College Station or Austin a “far trip for a road game”. Kornheiser is making it out to be like it’s just a formal application and you’re in. No. It’s far from that. The powers that be in the Big 12/SEC aren’t interested in increasing the competitiveness or sharing the $$. The Big 12 loves their whipping boy in Baylor, and they’re not going anywhere. But why should they care? They’re looking out for each other, not for the quality of college football.
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by Maximilian on Nov 12, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
There is no sport (other than Women’s Basketball) where Baylor is more competitive than TCU year-in/year-out, yet no one wants to switch them out. Because UT and OU already have a hard enough time going undefeated – it’d be near impossible with another school perennially at the same level as Tech and A&M.
by JBImaknee on Nov 12, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Baylor
With their football team on the rise the Bears are a pretty good looking program. They are better than TCU at both basketballs, baseball (although not by much), don’t know about softball, tennis is pretty equal. Those are the only sports i can really speak to right now but Baylor is no longer the whipping boy of the Big 12. they are a very respectable program and once briles gets that thing completely turned around I would watch out.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 12, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What I would love
is if they would revive the Southwest Conference. Leave the major players in the Big 12 alone but make a conference with TCU, SMU, North Texas, Houston, Tulsa, UTEP, and maybe some others. That would be a more regional conference that people around here could get excited about.
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by kentbenfer on Nov 12, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You could
add Baylor to that mix, too
"We live, we die, and the wheels on the bus go round and round." - Tony Romo
by kentbenfer on Nov 12, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Baylor
is competitive in every other Big 12 sport, and are becoming competitive in football. They’re not going anywhere…..
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 12, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Have had the same thought
Given the proponderance of private and municipal schools, Tulane and maybe Memphis would fill it out to eight.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Nov 12, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You stole my idea
TCU
SMU
Houston
Rice
UTEP
Tulsa
La Tech
Tulane
As a UNT student I would like to add them but we have a horrible athletics program.
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by DaheelzCM on Nov 12, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Rice
Baseball powerhouse and actually decent at football nowadays – 7-3 this year (but nowhere near TCU’s class).
Of course, you can fit all of teh Rice alumni, dead or alive, inside Rice Stadium with room to spare. So we aren’t one for a huge fan base.
by JBImaknee on Nov 12, 2008 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TCU's Basketball motto:
At least we had Kurt Thomas!
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by Maximilian on Nov 12, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
put TCU or UTAH in the ACC
lets see how that one ends heh hell, even in the big 10 (both of these teams are probably top 5 teams in both conf)
and id love to see that result
as far as TCU going into the big XII i think it would hurt them more than help them, i mean the big xii is BRUTAL – OU, OSU, TT, UT, aTm + up and coming Baylor, etc
and im sure thats the division they would be in…ugh
would there even be a question of what the best division in college football was if TCU was in the Big XII south?
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by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kornheiser, I don't care for
What shocked me the other night, after Tech demolished Okla State (who are a good team BTW) was Kirk Herbstreit championing Florida as the best team in the country “easily”. Huh? I guess maybe we’ll see, but all at once I am on the Steve Spurrier South Carolina bandwagon to mess things up. And I’m not a Spurrier fan, particularly.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Nov 12, 2008 12:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would
actually probably agree with Herbstreit. I think Florida is a great team. I think they will end up beating ‘Bama in the SEC championship game. They shouldn’t have lost to Ole Miss, though. I also think that USC is one of the two or three best teams but they lost to Oregon St. The best team does not always win.
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by kentbenfer on Nov 12, 2008 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
USC
yes, they are good but again – how good would they be if they were playing against the likes of OU/OSU/TT/aTm/UT or alabama/flordia/S Carolina/LSU/etc year in and year out
ehhhhhhhhhhh not as good as they are now
normal people : chuck norris :: getting flustered in big games : greg davis
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Big XII south
The teams in the Big XII South love raiding North Texas high schools for recruits. It produces top recruits year in and year out and with no BCS college or university in the area, universities like OU, OSU, UT,Texas A&M, TT, and even Arkansas get the best players North Texas has to offer. TCU gets what’s left.
A kid from Palestine, TX named Adrian Peterson MAY have been more likely to go to TCU instead of having to choose between UT or OU. This is why the Big XII will never let TCU in. A vibrant TCU threatens those teams of their lifeblood of star recruits.
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by DerekSTheRed on Nov 12, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love ESPN.
But I guess I’m just more NOW than you are.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 11, 2008 11:33 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Yes you are Tron...
yes you are.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2008 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
He’s too NOW.
He needs to go back in time. Need a lift, kid?
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 12, 2008 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crock of shit
The Razorbacks, sitting at the bottom of the SEC West, are probably good enough to beat Ball State, Boise State and Utah, too.
Let’s look at that – last week one MWC team played an SEC team. They were both 1-5 in conference play and 3-6 overall. Want to guess who won? My Wyoming over Tennessee in Tennessee.
Fuck ESPN.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on Nov 12, 2008 9:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping...
you would weigh in on this. Congrats on the Wyo win in Knoxville. I know they suck this year (kinda like how the Utes went to Michigan and won even though they suck this year) but it’s still a big win for that program and the conference. Think you guys can get to 6 wins and get to a bowl? Is Joe Glenn gone if they don’t?
As for Arkansas beating any of those teams, as you allude to, that’s a joke.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 12, 2008 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You and me - we're like peas and carrots
Rangers fans, MWC fans, Raiders fans, and I presume you have a white-hot hate for BYU too.
Wyoming definately sucks this year. Their record isn’t horrible, nor has it been for the last couple years, but they can’t get over the hump. UW football fans are talking about getting rid of Joe Glenn but Cowboy Joe members (the athletics supporters’ [hehe] group) aren’t because he’s good at traveling the state and making money for the athletics’ department.
Bowl eligibility is certainly a possibility. They play UNLV who has the exact same record as the Pokes and then it’s CSU at home, and no one knows about the Border War. That said, even if UW gets to 6 wins, they still don’t deserve a bowl. It’s crazy because Tenn fans (after the loss) were talking about getting to 6 wins and automatically getting their bowl, which is probably true but they don’t deserve it either.
Go Utes – fuck up that BCS for everyone in the MWC.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on Nov 12, 2008 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True confessions of an SEC homer...
1) I’m a hypocrite: as much as I hate it that baseball pundits feel that MLB isn’t complete unless the Yankees, BoSox and Cubs aren’t good…. I like college football better when Bama, Penn St, Notre Dame, Texas, USC, etc are doing well. I don’t mind the emergence of teams like Utah, Boise and Ball St… but I also don’t mind seeing them get trounced (eventually) by power conferences.
2) I feel for you. As a Ranger fan, I can totally understand the lack of respect. Luckily all the Rangers have to do is (eventually) win more games than the Angels… or A’s… or M’s. For the Utes, it’s not that easy.
3) It’s really nice rooting for a big dog. I’ve been a Bama fan my whole life. That’s brought me an awful lot of great years, but some very lean years as well. I recognize they aren’t the best team in the nation right now… but I also recognize they don’t have to be. They just have to win 4 more games. Crazy though, 14-0 looks as tough now as it did before the season began.
4) I don’t think it’ll ever change… and I don’t mind it.
“and that’s why I read espen the magazine” – some college cheerleader on an ESPN the Magazine commercial a few years back.
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by Haeger Champ on Nov 12, 2008 9:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit I'm jealous of you
Being a fan of Rice somewhat dampens my appreciation for college football. I’ve tried to be a fan of UT or A&M – and I’ll cheer for them over other states – but I ultimately cannot forgive them for abandoning Rice, TCU, Houston and SMU when they left the Southwest Conference (and they let Baylor in? Balyor!!?!?!?!).
It annoys me that there is a weird historical bias to a college sport. If you are going to say that there should be two tiers to college football, then make those tiers realistic. Boise St., TCU, Fresno St, Utah, BYU – those are schools that should be in the top tier. Even you have to admit that those schools are in a league above the schools like Duke, Northwestern, Indiana, Stanford, and just about anyone in the Big East most seasons.
Until the NCAA can come up with a way to treat the MWC, WAC, Conference USA, and MAC fairly, I’m going to hope for a playoff. Which would take the fun out of college football – but at least it would actually be a fair sport.
by JBImaknee on Nov 12, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
any idea why baylor is in the big xii?
im sure there is a story…but idk what it is
normal people : chuck norris :: getting flustered in big games : greg davis
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kind of random
but wouldnt it be funny if Oregon State were to win out and get the Pac10’s automatic berth? Although that probably wouldnt happen, it would be so great to watch
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by hinduplaya on Nov 12, 2008 4:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It would be great...
except for if that happens then the Fiesta Bowl would probably take USC and the Sugar Bowl would probably take Ohio St. Which would mean the Utes would get stuck in the Orange Bowl against a ACC winner like Wake Forrest which would suck.
The Utes need USC to go to the Rose Bowl and if they do then I think they will play the loser of the SEC Championship in the Sugar Bowl. Bring on Bama.
It is nice to see Pete Carroll bitch about the BCS when they don’t get to play in the NC game. I didn’t see him bitching about it in ‘04 when they got the shot and the Utes and Auburn didn’t.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 12, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
The way I see it – 6 teams will get automatic places into a BCS bowl (imo Texas Tech, Florida, Penn State, Cincinnati, UNC, Oregon State (obviously just a guess)). Then, Utah would get #7, followed by probably Texas and Alabama. In that scenario, there would be one of either Ohio State or USC left out
(prob OSU). I dont know about you guys, but not seeing either USC or OSU in a BCS game would be one of the best things in college football this year.
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by hinduplaya on Nov 12, 2008 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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My hate for OSU/USC is only rivaled by my hatred for A&M. Carroll whining now is greatness. If he were undefeated, and a Big 12 team had laid a turd against an Iowa State/Baylor/A&M, he wouldn’t be talking about the BCS being unfair.
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by Maximilian on Nov 12, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
Carroll has said many times he doesn’t like the BCS. It’s probably because his team is always rolling at the end of the year and he knows he could take out anyone.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/200 8/11/04/20081104spt-pac10fb.html
Carroll always has tried to keep his head above the BCS muck. But circumstances over the years have forced him to take shots at the system, both indirect and direct. Consider:
• In 2006, during a television interview after beating California: “I could care less about the BCS.”
• In 2005, before USC’s national title game against Texas: “Is (the BCS) one guy, like the Wizard of Oz kind of thing?”
• In 2004, after USC beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl to claim a piece of the national title. “I think it’s pretty clear there is a system issue here.”
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 12, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I've read those quotes before/heard them on TV
Again though, you didn’t hear this much of an outcry/petition from him when his school was on top the last few years. They still are a great team, but not to the same degree as 3-4 years ago. He was just kind of repeating the same cliche’ lines other coaches were saying. To be fair, other coaches (Mack Brown, anyone) are just as guilty of this kind of thing too.
To me, it just proves the system is in dire need of revamping. But we already knew that.
"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."
by Maximilian on Nov 13, 2008 12:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think on the field after the Rose Bowl
and winning a piece of the National Championship is about as big of a statement you can make.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 13, 2008 7:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One could argue the biggest statment he could make
would have been to not accept the piece of the national title.
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by Maximilian on Nov 13, 2008 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break
you know no coach would ever do that. That’s unreasonable.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 13, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
on about a thousand levels
recruiting
alums
money
view in the eyes of the school
view in the eyes of the players
view in the eyes of the athletic program
etc
etc
etc
normal people : chuck norris :: getting flustered in big games : greg davis
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
But I’m just saying that’s literally the biggest statement a coach who doesn’t approve of the BCS could make.
"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."
by Maximilian on Nov 13, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There are lots of coaches
that are more outspoken about the BCS than Carroll. I don’t see them handing back their Rose, Suger, Fiesta, and Orange Bowl Trophies…..
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 13, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes there are
and I mentioned that earlier, saying
To be fair, other coaches (Mack Brown, anyone) are just as guilty of this kind of thing too.
"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."
by Maximilian on Nov 13, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In 2005, before USC’s national title game against Texas: "Is (the BCS) one guy, like the Wizard of Oz kind of thing?"
awesome
normal people : chuck norris :: getting flustered in big games : greg davis
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which would mean the Utes would get stuck in the Orange Bowl against a ACC winner like Wake Forrest which would suck.
this would probably not be a bad thing, because how would it look if utah beat them by a TON – say 30+?
normal people : chuck norris :: getting flustered in big games : greg davis
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't matter...
they beat Pitt by a ton in ’04 and all I heard was “so what, Pitt sucks. They should have beat thumped them.”
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 13, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh...
Yet another reason:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3697923
Just picture it. Stuart Scott on the sidelines in the BCS National Championship Game. I need to go vomit.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 12, 2008 5:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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