Yankees get Nick Swisher from the ChiSox
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 13, 2008 2:54 PM CST
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PrintThe Yankees have picked up outfielder Nick Swisher from the ChiSox.
Apparently, in exchange for minor leaguer Jeffrey Marquez.
Marquez is a 24 year old RHP who was a first round pick in 2004, and who BA didn't include in their top 10 this year. He had a rough season in 2008 and doesn't strike out a bunch of guys.
Unless there is someone else of significance going to Chicago, this looks like a salary dump, to me.
And just a season after the ChiSox gave up Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney to get him.
Bleah.
UPDATE -- The full deal:
The Yankees traded infielder Wilson Betemit and minor league pitchers Jeff Marquez and Jhonny Nunez to Chicago in exchange for the switch-hitting Swisher and minor league pitcher Kanekoa Texeira
Picking up Betemit isn't bad. Nunez also didn't make the BA top 10 list for the Yanks.
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Yeah
Like I said in the FanShot deleted, I was part of the crowd that didn’t like the trade for Chicago. I ended up backing off my initial reaction because I believed they could get value back for him if they fell out of contention. Problem is, they were in contention and this is no where near what they gave up for him. Why would they sell so low on him? Has to be a salary dump, but it wouldn’t surprise me if more players ended up going over.
I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.
Yeah weird
What an awful venture Swisher was for CWS.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 13, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
Stupid Kenny Williams
giving away Swisher.
This is how the Yankees got Bobby Abreu for basically nothing. They got some good years out of him and now will reap draft picks after he leaves.
wow
once again kenny williams proves how “good” he is
surely they are getting back kennedy or melky or something like that…right?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
2 things.
(1) Swisher really isn’t that good.
(2) Things have a strange way or working out well for Kenny Williams.
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
*way of working out
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
by NoNameOnCard on Nov 13, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Kanekoa J Texeira + Jeffrey Marquez <<< Ryan Sweeney + De Los Santos + Gio
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Well and
he gave up Texeira also, didn’t get him. He got Nunez and Betemit.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 13, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
If he isn't that good. . .
. . . they never should have traded Gio Gonzalez or Ryan Sweeney for him.
Swisher
I don’t really think he’s a Yankee caliber RF but I would say he is above average. He had absolutely awful luck last year and I just don’t see anyway that could happen again.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
RF 1B or DH
Swisher shouldn’t be in center anymore.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
But aren't the Yanks in the Teixeira sweepstakes?
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 13, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe
I mean I guess they could play him in CF. Chicago ran him and Griffey out there last year and it’s pretty clear the Yankees really don’t value defense so much.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Yankees
How is it that the Yankees are always able to get something for nothing? It’s ridiculous.
"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner
they def underpaid here
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
And
They’re only adding a little over $3 million on payroll for this, because Betemit is arb-eligible for the second time. Ridiculous…
Some details:
The Yankees have acquired first baseman Nick Swisher and Class AA right-hander Kanekoa Texeira from the White Sox, according to major-league sources.
The exact players going back to the White Sox are not yet known, but sources say the White Sox will be receiving two minor leaguers and one major-league reserve. ESPN.com is reporting that Yankees Class AAA right-hander Jeff Marquez is in the deal.
even then
Melky Cabrera + Kanekoa J Texeira + Jeffrey Marquez <<< Ryan Sweeney + De Los Santos + Gio
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
and remember that trade w/ OAK
was before de los santos hurt his arm (TJ?) and i think he was the CWS #1 prospect according to KG
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Wilson Betemit + Johnny Nunez + Kanekoa J Texeira + Jeffrey Marquez <<< Ryan Sweeney + De Los Santos + Gio
at that point in time it was 3 guys who had been top 100 prospects and IIRC 2 of em had been top 50 + their top prospect according to KG
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
The White Sox
Gave up Texiera along with Swisher. That is a total salary dump and a bad one at that cause Tex is a decent prospect.
Dominoes are starting to fall.
I’m excited.
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 13, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure if someone's mentioned this
Cliff Lee won AL Cy Young. K-Rod finished third.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
Value of ML
With the value of proven major leaguers at an all time low I’d really like to see us go after Adrian Beltre. I wonder what minimal package it would take to get him.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
I have this theory
that at least one bean counter in every ML FO is starting to try to convince the movers and shakers that when the economy goes t!ts-up it’s the teams without the mega-contracts who’ll be laffin’.
I always hated Swisher
And this just seals that feeling up for eternity. Granted, not necessarily his fault he was traded, but my hatred knows no rationale.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
guess the yanks...
…are serious about getting a texeira this season.
i know, bad. but i couldn’t help myself.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
A guy I'd love to see JD target
I’m buying the hype on his numbers, he is the most.
Is Toronto satisfied with their catcher situation? The blush of youth is gone from Curtis Thigpen. It’s doubtful they want a Max Ramirez, with Snider probably getting DH ABs, and Saltalamacchia is close to overpaying. Stark says they want more pitching.
I don’t know. I just need to get it off my chest that I love Bretty Cecil.
Go Strangers.
They have Scutaro for SS.
At least for this year. Scutaro is like my favorite player ever.
Plus they seem to be really high on Justin Jackson in their minor league pipeline and would be looking to bridge the gap to him if anything.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Phil Collins says...
…his favorite player ever is “ScuuuuScuuuuScuuuuScutaro…”
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 13, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I can't believe I'm rec-ing this.
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 13, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
I look a long time at that.
It comes down to eyeball testimony.
If the scouts say Andrus is the genuine article, you have to back away and build from Vallejo or Marcus, or even Arias (with a big plus there).
If there’s any doubt about Andrus, Cecil would require discouraging scouting reports.
His profile, numbers-wise, is outstanding.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 13, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Don't they already have a catching prospect in Arencibia?
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 13, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Betemit
I sorta wanted the Rangers to target him as an option at 3B. Of course, I was willing to offer Laird AND I wanted a reliever back as well. Who knew Betemit could by Nick Swisher?
Seems like a good buy-low for the Yanks. A rich ballclub with brains at the helm never struggles for long.
Yup. Great trade by the Yanks.
With Swisher, Nady, Damon and Matsui in the mix for their COF-1b-DH positions they’re pretty much set.
They’re really only weak at CF with Melky and at C if Posada can’t handle the workload next season.
But that offense is gonna be dino might.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think they land Cameron
for the CF spot. Truthfully, I think this was them getting out of the Teixeira race before it began. I think it is CC or bust for them this offseason.
As it should be.
CC’s the best pitcher to hit the free market since the Unit went to AZ back in the day. (Not counting Clemens since tat was a whole ’nother sort of drama.)
The Yanks are gonna give him 200+mm and that’ll be the end of it… unless he really, really wants to be a Cali and/or NL guy. But I can’t see him leaving that much cash on the table.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, and I dunno about Cameron.
Maybe. Is Milwaukee really looking to cut payroll and/or do they have a replacement itching to go?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
i read
that they don’t want to trade him, but they feel they need starting pitching and he could be a valuable trade chip.
If I am JD, I am on the phone offering Byrd.
Byrd to Milwaukee
for what?
Just like us, they want to acquire pitching.
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
I think he meant Byrd to NY
If they were going after Cameron maybe they would be interested in Byrd. Much cheaper, although to NY price really doesn’t matter
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
it depends
on what we find elsewhere. i would have said betemit until today. now i would target arms, esp bullpen arms.
Swisher, Nady, Damon, and Matsui......
Nady may be the best player out of that group next year, I don’t think that’s a good thing.
Swisher, Nady, Damon and Matsui
My guess
Swisher: 1B
Nady: RF
Damon: LF
Matsui: DH
Obviously, Swisher is not going to be their biggest position player acquisition of the offseason. So far, that lineup looks pretty underwhelming, but if they add Tex or Cameron, things could look very different and brighter for the Yankees.
That looks underwhelming to you?
Looks pretty freaking good to me, especially when combined with ARod, Jeter and Cano plus maybe a healthy Posada.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Eh
Not one of those guys stands out, and those are supposed to be your four best offensive positions. The guys in more defensive positions buoys their lineup quite a lot.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 13, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
So I suppose you're epxecting a serious regression from Damon and Nady and no return to form for Matsui and Swisher?
I guess I just disagree.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
.219 .332 .410
.268 .320 .474
.303 .375 .461
.294 .370 .424
That is just not too hot from your four big offensive positions, period. Maybe Damon keeps it up and the other three kick it up by about 100 OPS points each next year, but just based on what they did for NY last year and how old they are, bleh.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 13, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's pretty reasonable to expect Nady to be a little better than he was with them, imo.
Though his Pitt numbers were prolly a bit inflated. Somewhere in the middle is what I’d expect.
Swisher is a really good bet to rebound, imo. H ewas jerked in and out of the lineup by the uber douche and asked to play CF, which was a comical move for a guy with his skill set. He kept his BB% at the same strong levels as before even as he was struggling and I just don’t see him posting another ~.250 BABIP. I’d bet on .240/.360/.460 next year. I hate the guy, but he’s a pretty good TTO player when he’s right.
Matsui can hit when he’s healthy, period. The big question there is health. I’m betting that if they do the smart thing and DH him the majority of the time he’ll have better luck staying in the lineup.
And Damon looked rejuvenated last year. I know he’ll come down a little cause his numbers last year were a little too BA driven, but he’s still got some good baseball in him.
The big problem to me is that they don’t have a true RF. Nady’s not good out there, Matsui’s knees are no good, and apparently Swisher’s gonna be the 1b. However, no matter what at least it’ll be a defensive upgrade from Abreu out there. He was the worst RF I’ve seen in… well, maybe ever. And he used to be pretty decent, iirc. He just all the sudden started taking dumps in the field. Who knew.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
cashman is good
give the man that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 13, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Bronson Arroyo
MLBTR just had a bullet point about the Rangers interest in Bronson Arroyo. This is not the first time we have heard this. He is signed through 2010 w/ an option for 2011 at about 12 per year. His numbers, if translated to the AL, would look a lot like Millwood and Padilla. But he has pitched 857 innings over the last 4 years, so he is durable.
Very vanilla, if you ask me.
question:
would you trade Laird for him?
I am not sure if I would. It isn’t a bad return, but i would rather spend that money on a guy like Sheets.
i figured
i wouldn’t mind those innings arroyo provides, but i am not a fan of that contract. but this is not the first time we have heard whispers of the rangers’ interest in arroyo.
with the crazy salary dumps that are happening this offseason, I guess nothing can be ruled out.
lolol
anyone see Skip Bayless get owned on first and 10 this morning? I don’t know who this guy opposite of him is, but he almost made Skip cry, seriously…
Jindal '12
What was
the subject.
I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.
the brawl or so called brawl
dood kept calling Skip ‘soft’ because Skip thought McGrady’s pick on Nash was too hard because TMac should have known Nash had a pinched nerve…
Jindal '12
Didn't see whatever show you're talking about, but I thought the "brawl" was kind of funny.
If only because of the way Shaq reacted once he realized Nash had fallen down and people were standing around him. That guy is just unpossibly big and strong. He shoved T-Mac out of the way like he was made of Christmas wrapping paper tubes.
Oh, and also, we should’ve signed Matt Barnes. An energetic psycho is exactly what the Mavs have needed for years. You think he would’ve let Dwyade drive to the hole again and again and again without fear of reprisal? Nah. He’s a jackass and I hate him, but I’d love him on my team if ya know what I mean.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Everytime Skip Bayless speaks
an angel cries.
"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."
Everytime Skip Bayless speaks
an angel cries dies.
What a pompous ass of a human being…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Someone should put him
Galloway, and JFE on a one way trip to France or something.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Cashman is awesome.
It’d be so great to have a GM with 200 or so million, and not make the playoffs.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky
Looks like a steal for the Yanks.
FA starts tonight. Go Rangers.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!
You mean the impressive from Virginia?
by Brett Perryman on Nov 13, 2008 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
c'mon guys stay on topic
I opened this thread fully expecting a celebration of the sacred union between a player and team that very much deserve each other. All I got was another exhausting discussion about the de/merits of our GM.
Can we get back to the true purpose of this discussion which is figuring out if Steinbrenner’s set goal is to compile every one of the biggest d-bags in baseball on one team and how long before the final domino (Texeira) falls.
I love this trade for the Sox. I love this trade for the Rangers. I love this trade for the Yanks and Nick Swisher. Now could they find any way to get Girardi fired and Guillen hired? Wait, that level of douche-ness would almost make me feel sorry for the Yankees and their fans.
Congrats Yanks and Swisher. You deserve each other
Swisher
If Swisher comes back and has a good season, then you’ll see how much being a douche doesn’t matter when it comes to baseball. Most good players are douches.
Stark says the Yankees are prepared to offer Sabathia a deal; maybe as soon as tomorrow.
6/140
GREINKE HO!!!!!
I'd go 6/150 and not blink.
I’ll be pissed if the Yanks get him for 6/140.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
Huh?
My whole life, and, no, but neither do you.
Is your assertion that because we haven’t had a true ace since we moved into this ballpark that we’re somehow cursed or something?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
OT: What would you say to this (suggest by a Royals fan)?
Rangers Get: Zach Greinke
Royals Get: Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Julio Borbon, Elvis Andrus, Tommy Hunter/Eric Hurley/Matt Harrison
Both with and without Greinke guarateed to re-sign.
I'd consider it
with Harrison or Hunter for the pitcher. A healthy Hurley makes that foursome a little tough to swallow. I’d really, really prefer to give them someone other than Andrus, though.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 13, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
I’d consider it, but I’m less willing to give up Borbon. I think there are other people than can step up at short to fill the Andrus void (if Vallejo can handle it), but there’s less people ready behind Borbon. Beltre is too raw to consider him anywhere near ready.
That's a lot
but I’d consider it, too. I’d probably counter with with Salty, Borbon, Vallejo and Hunter, though that might not be enough.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Salty, Borbon, Vallejo and Harrison
That MIGHT be as high as I’d want to go. I would understand if the Royals declined.
I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.
Andrus is definitely the sticking point.
He said he’d take any of those three pitchers, though, and I’d gladly part with Hunter.
We given a window to resign Greinke,
sure, but otherwise, I would say no. It seems highly improbable that the Royals would deal Greinke and agree to let the other team resign him before the deal is consummated. I’d want the pitcher to be Hunter or Harrison, I think.
ANDY. SONNANSTINE.
by Stephen Rushin on Nov 13, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
No, but we have the same name.
ANDY. SONNANSTINE.
by Stephen Rushin on Nov 13, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
If given a window to resign Greinke*
ANDY. SONNANSTINE.
by Stephen Rushin on Nov 13, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Dont think so
Salty, Borbon, Hunter and Vallejo is my counter-offer
the preceding post was a great success.
I think Greinke is worth significantly more if you given a chance to resign him to a long-term deal. Without a deal in place, I’m not sure 2 years of Greinke is worth more than the deal you just proposed. Greinke for 5 years is probably worth giving up Andrus + the package you mention.
I really like Greinke, but I think I might look at players like Bonderman and Sonnanstine first. They might put up comparable numbers while costing significantly less.
ANDY. SONNANSTINE.
by Stephen Rushin on Nov 13, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Jeez. Maybe.
I’d hate it, though.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Did I miss something?
This deal isn’t far off from the one I proposed.
Davis, Saltalamacchia and Hurley.
You save one more player, and keep the better gloves (Borbon, Andrus).
If that’s not enough, flip them an expendable corner outfielder… something KC desperately is seeking (Cruz / Boggs / Mayberry).
Also, why would KC want Borbon? Don’t they have DeJesus locked up?
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 13, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Dejesus is a butt terrible CF'er. He is to CF defense what Matt Kata was to 3b defense. If they had anything else behind him he'd be a LF'er by now.
And I’d take Chris Davis over Borbon and Andrus any day of the week and wouldn’t think twice.
Davis is beast, the kind of elite bat you dream about. No trading him, please.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
i would wait and see what
the padres get for peavy, then i would offer something less than that.
from what we have heard of the current offers, this would far exceed that, so no.
OT: If the Angels end up w/ one of CC and Teix
which would you rather be in the division for the next 6-10 years?
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
Beig Seixy Teixy.
CC’s a big muscley mountain beast of a pitcher.
I want no part of him.
None.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
like everybody else
I’d much rather have Teix in the division than CC.
But scenario I’m really hoping for is that they miss out on both those guys and sign K-Rod for huge money.
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
CC
They always have the pitching that is able to shut us down. I’d rather see them tie themselves up to a huge deal for a pitcher than to get some much needed offense.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
If they continue to
have the pitching that shuts us down, we’re not going to beat them, like we haven’t. We need that to change.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 14, 2008 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
that change will come
by not allowing that crappy offense to score on us.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
He may last longer than that
but I do think he eventually follows fellow former tribe teammate Bartolo Colon in having a short career.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky
If Dirk could make a layup
they’d only be four down with the ball and 1:10 left. Oh well.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Dirk
would the Jazz trade Brewer, Millsap, and AK47 for Dirk?
Face it Mavs fans. This team jumped the Shark in the 06 game 7 against the Spurs, which will be the greatest moment in Mavs history for many more years. Time to move on.
Why would you want to do that deal?
If you’re trading Dirk you want cap room + picks or cap room + a young guy with potential. Not a pu-pu platter of decent players, one with a huge contract.
And if you’re gonna blow it up now be prepared to absorb the stomach punch that will be NJ getting our top 3 pick in ’10. The Jason Kidd was and remains one of the dumbest moves ever because of that second unprotected pick. Seriously, Cuban. WTMF?
No, I think you gotta give it a little more time at least.
If they’re still shitty after 20 or 30 games, then you talk about blowing it the eff up. And it’ll hurt. Here’s hoping Dirkles goes somewhere where he can win a title and then bitch slaps Stern at the trophy presentation while screaming “Ich bin ein Dirk Nowitzki!” then storms off the court never to be seen in America again. Cause mother fuck David Stern, that’s why. I’ve publicly announced that I’m going to dance on his grave when he dies. I’m gonna post the video on youtube. It’s gonna be a hit.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 13, 2008 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
i'm not talking about tomorrow
but seriously. this team isn’t going to “turn it around” in any real respect. they are a veteran team that came out of the gate flat. they aren’t going to gel or improve over the course of the year.
Plus, I would say Millsap and Brewer are better than decent players. And you could add a first round pick or two to even it out. Or perhaps you could replace AK with Okur and Korver or Harpring.
My dream deal.
Hope that Oden and Aldridge don’t play well together (which they will).. Then trade Dirk for Aldridge and Raef Lafrentz.
Dude Aldridge
is not enough of a return for Dirk. I don’t know why you would think that
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 14, 2008 7:20 AM CST up reply actions
Expiring contract
Yeah, that’s a nice temporary return…
Aldridge is nice, but I want more for a MVP caliber player.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 14, 2008 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
You may be correct
That it’s as good a deal as you can get.
Which is why I wouldn’t trade him.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 14, 2008 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think Aldridge is enough for Dirk
But his proposal works simply because of the math. Trading in the NBA is more about making the money work than who you get back. With Dirks huge contract and Aldridge still on his rookie deal it will take a Raef type contract to make it work.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
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