Saturday morning stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2008 9:25 AM CST
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Mike Maddux arrived yesterday, and there is some buzz this morning about what he means for the Rangers...
Evan Grant says Maddux's approach is less about the mechanics and more about the mental side of pitching, with Jon Daniels says that Maddux is more "tactician than technician." This is, apparently, a significant break from the previous regime.
Mike Hindman also has a lengthy write-up on Maddux and his arrival at the DMN Rangers blog.
Nolan Ryan says that the payroll will be in the $65-75 million range, and they haven't decided if they'll raise individual game ticket prices (although season ticket prices are going up a little). So, basically, the Rangers will have the same payroll they've had in the past, and aren't going to add anyone significant (salary-wise) unless they move someone already here (either Millwood, Padilla, or Blalock, since those are the high salary guys who could conceivably be moved).
Over at the Boston Globe, there's a mailbag column up that talks about Boston's interest in Taylor Teagarden and Jarrod Saltalamacchia heating up, with the Red Sox being less interested in Gerald Laird because, the writer says, of some pitchers not liking to throw to him.
The Astros.com site talks about the Astros being interested in one of the Rangers' young catchers, but given the dearth of prospects in the system or available young major leaguers, I'm at a loss as to what sort of package the Astros could offer to get anyone.
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Maddux, pitched for three seasons at UT-El Paso.
Can’t argue with the results Maddux has had with thr Brewers. I would be ecstatic if he were to get the Rangers 2009 era under 5.00.
BREWERS UNDER MADDUX
Year Staff ERA NL rank
2003 5.02 14
2004 4.24 9
2005 3.97 5
2006 4.82 15
2007 4.42 9
2008 3.85 2
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Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.
by RangerMad on Nov 15, 2008 9:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
So...
Is it time to start bitching about how Michael Young’s contract is killing our payroll yet?
/Kidding… for now.
"I would say that our gaping hole isn’t nearly as gaping as the A’s hole [was] or Mariner’s would be." - tyd3311
by lonestarJon on Nov 15, 2008 9:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
depressing
I guess Sheets is out of the question. And I kinda thought we had a chance….
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
by tricer on Nov 15, 2008 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 15, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He seems like the most apt use of financial flexibility in a while
Special cases and all that.
But woops, now thats off.
Our position guys are set up, we have a lot of young starters… its not like we would have to ignore 3 other key areas to get him, he is the key area. an ace quality pitcher…. whose value is down because of his health (thus hes even in reason) and who has ties to both the club (maddux) and the area (live here) is a perfect fit.
Im honestly quite annoyed about it.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Nov 15, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I still just don't see the Rangers not
trying to get him unless they really believe he isn’t worth the money. Hicks was willing to open his wallet for a pitcher like Zito while half that offer could be enough to get Sheets.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 15, 2008 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if there isn't going to be
a significant increase in payroll, how do we plan on getting a deal done with Hambone?
i would think he’d be looking for several million a year at least.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Nov 15, 2008 9:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe...
the big $ would start ’til 2010 or 2011.
Similar to the way the MY extension worked out last year.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 15, 2008 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
…he’s not going to be getting several million a year for 2009. He’s still not arb-eligible. 2010 is when he can see a significant bump.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2008 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which coincides nicely
with Milly, Padilla, and Blalock coming off the books.
by Keynes on Nov 15, 2008 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hammy
Is he not a Super 2?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 15, 2008 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
He only has 2 major league seasons.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I thought it was if you had at least 2 years of service time and would rank in the top 10 or so percent of arbitration eligible players. I didn’t realize you had to have more than 2 season in the bigs. Thanks
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 15, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to rank in the top 10 or so percent of arb-eligible players...
…in the amount of service time you have. Performance is irrelevant.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Got me thinking how this all works..
Super 2
A player with almost 3 years of Major League service time may become eligible for arbitration.
To qualify, a player must:
* have at least 2 years of service, but less than 3, and
* have accumulated at least 86 days of service in the previous year, and
* rank in the top 17% of all 2-year players in service time.
The cutoff point generally falls between 2 years, 128 days of service and 2 years, 140 days.
by tyd3311 on Nov 15, 2008 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchers don't like to throw to Laird?
Guess they didn’t talk to Millwood who pouts and whines if he has to pitch to Salty, if I’m remembering correctly…
by JBImaknee on Nov 15, 2008 10:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Millwood also swore by Mark Conor
I remember a couple of years ago at the Newberg event, someone (I think it was Ben) asked JD about the success/failure of Conor, and his response was basically, “Millwood likes him”.
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
by tricer on Nov 15, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I asked if they thought about giving Mark Redman the job or something like that.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Nov 15, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
um...
Hi.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Nov 15, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you have work tonight?
Shouldn’t you be asleep?
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Nov 15, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why aren't you working tonight?
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All right, now, the rest of you on this party line, you can all hang up now. I'm only callin' Dinglinger's Store and there won't be anything you can gossip about at all.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 15, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get 3 days bereavement leave.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Nov 15, 2008 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey hey hey easy on Milly now..
The boy has lost 12 lbs. already this off season and vows to lose a lot more! Why did he wait 2 years to lose all the weight and begin a proper conditioning program worthy of 11 million annually you ask?
Well that’s not the way he was taught all those years ago in Atlanta. That’s why!!
Does he have to log a certain number of innings in ‘09 or the Rangers can cancel the ’10 part of the contract? I’m not sure how that works.
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Honorable Mention:
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by LAMuscleFag on Nov 15, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe now he just cares cause
He has to pitch a certain amount of innings and if not is a FA.
by Mike E on Nov 15, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BINGO!
that’s my point tucked amidst the sarcasm.
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Gossamer 1st Runner Up
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TxStCa, Rodney, LSJ, Baseballs Girlfriend, CMKelly29, Ghtd36, Chase Irwin,
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by LAMuscleFag on Nov 15, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the astros
their only good young prospect is a catcher. this is the second time we’ve heard talk about them wanting one of your catchers. doesn’t make a lick of sense
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Nov 15, 2008 11:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers can raise ticket prices all they want.
I’m still going to buy the cheapest seat available and sit wherever the hell I please.
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 15, 2008 11:42 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Amen to that.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Nov 15, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as long as its in sight of the jumbotron.
i’m still amazed they put that thing where a quarter of the people can’t see it. and my favorite seats are the rightfield porch seats… but i can’t sit there when i go with the wife(which is basically the only time i get to go now) because she wants to be able to see the damn jumbotron.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Nov 15, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+3
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 16, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the Astros message board on their site
One guy proposed Ty Wigginton for Salty…and they seemed to think if they did that the Astros would be getting ripped off. Crazy people…
by Mike E on Nov 15, 2008 12:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Michael Main
Finally an option… vote away
by tyd3311 on Nov 15, 2008 1:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OT: ND about to have some serious fail.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!
by sprite on Nov 15, 2008 2:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Melvin
MLBtraderumors.com recaps Melvin’s career, including Rangers tenure.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/11/gm-trade-histor.html
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 15, 2008 6:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
From espn
Right-handed pitcher Darrell Rasner, who started 20 games for the New York Yankees last season, has been sold to a team in Japan for $1 million
by tyd3311 on Nov 15, 2008 7:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well
That’s one way to clear room on the 40 man roster.
"I would say that our gaping hole isn’t nearly as gaping as the A’s hole [was] or Mariner’s would be." - tyd3311
by lonestarJon on Nov 15, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know the Astros...
don’t have much. Certainly not enough to land one of TT, Salty, or MaxRam.
What about Felipe Paulino and Bud Norris for Laird though.
A little info on those guys is here: http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/5918557/11521078
Seems like they could be a couple decent young arms in exchage for OMFT, no?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 15, 2008 8:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You know, come to think of it, I'm not sure why they wouldn't want Laird as opposed to one of the triumvirate...
..not that I understand why they’re looking for a catcher in the first place. Laird would be cheaper to acquire and would tide them over until Castro’s ready (which should be pretty soon). What’s funny to me is that Paulino and Norris are probably 2 of the top 3 prospects in their system, and we’re talking about both of them being fair return for friggin’ OMFT.
by LiamP on Nov 15, 2008 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and there is also Towles to help tide them over if Castro takes longer than expected. They just aren’t ready to go with Towles to start next season, apparently. And if they’re just flat out down on Towles, I’d take him and one of those two pitchers for Laird, I think. Then the Rangers have basically done nothing to shorten their organizational catching depth. In fact, you can probably afford to be amore cavalier about Saltalamacchia with both Ramirez and Towles around to back up Teagarden, and, if Towles figures it out, you’ve easily increased your assets.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 15, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez should be backing up no one.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 16, 2008 2:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LSU
down 31-3 in the 3rd quarter to Troy, just went up 40-31… I hope DeMarcus isn’t watching the game with Bradie.
by tyd3311 on Nov 15, 2008 10:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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