Cowboys aftermath

by Brett Perryman on Nov 16, 2008 10:20 PM CST Comment 92 comments

PHEW!

With six games to play:

NFC East (all but clinched): NY Giants 9-1

NFC West (all but clinched): Arizona 7-3

Carolina leads the South at 8-2, and one of the three North teams will win their division, which means that you should be in pretty good shape with respect to those teams. Aside from that, the WC standings:

Tampa Bay 7-3
Dallas 6-4
Washington 6-4
Atlanta 6-4
Philadelphia 5-4-1
GB, Minn, Chi, NO 5-5

First of all, you have the H2H tiebreaker with the one team ahead of you, which is great. You also have the H2H against GB, so the only two teams you figure to face up against here, you at least do have that first tiebreaker.

In the division, Dallas is now tied with Washington. Tiebreakers with Philly are almost sure to not matter now with their tie.

Conference records:

Washington 5-3
Atlanta 4-3
Dallas 4-4
NO 2-4
Chicago 4-4
Minnesota 4-3

Remaining games:

Dallas: SF, Sea, at Pit, NYG, Bal, at Phi
TB: at Det, NO, at Car, at Atl, SD, Oak
Washington: at Sea, NYG, at Bal, at Cin, Phi, at SF
Atlanta: Car, at SD, at NO, TB, at Min, SL
Philly: at Bal, Ari, AT NYG, Cle, at Wash, Dal

First off, I think that we need to see Carolina beat TB and Atlanta, since they're two up on us to begin with and probably aren't going to get caught by us and still make the playoffs.

Second, if Baltimore can win at home against the Skins and Eagles and lose to us on the road, that would be great.

Third, unfortunately, we're the only ones who still have to play a top AFC team unless the Chargers suddenly find it. And we have to play them on the road.

Fourth, the Giants play all of the NFCE still. Hopefully we won't lose a game there to either of our rivals. Too bad none of the OOD teams have to play them still.

It's still no slam dunk at ten wins, as the Bucs stand a good chance of going 4-2 themselves and staying ahead of us for that last spot. But at least we're back in the middle of it.

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yay

How come Adam only comes around when things are really bad?? - tyd3311

Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 16, 2008 10:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

For those who were suggesting..

…I quit commenting because the Cowboys were doing well, I actually was in the bedroom with my 7 month old, who had woken up.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 16, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

LIAR!

You were afraid to face Longhorn.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Nov 16, 2008 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Should you be busy bereaving....

…since you took time off for that, rather than screwing around on a blog?

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 16, 2008 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Zing!

A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555

by boomer1 on Nov 16, 2008 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The great thing about a corporate job...

is that they give you time to bereave, even if screwing around on a blog is the way you bereave.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Nov 16, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What's going to happen...

…when they point out that you took off for the Hamburgler’s birthday on both Tuesday and Thursday?

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 16, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I LOL'd.

"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer

by ghtd36 on Nov 16, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

"Missionary Impossible"

Possibly the best Simpson’s episode ever.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 16, 2008 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Guess what season that's from?

11th!

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Nov 16, 2008 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Best Simpsons Episode

Homer Goes To College

by Brett Perryman on Nov 16, 2008 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Z: exactly.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Nov 17, 2008 8:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It's up there.

Here it is

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 16, 2008 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

False.

Lemon Tree of Troy

And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

by philkid3 on Nov 17, 2008 6:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no

it was the film festival one. i think it was called “A Star is Burns”.

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by hinduplaya on Nov 17, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i think my favorite might be

you only move twice

hank scorpio is a top character in the show’s history and was only in this 1 episode. it would have been funny if he was the villain in the simpsons movie since albert brooks played the voice for both roles

but all the ones mentioned are great nominees, i do love missionary impossible b/c of the telethon thing

by studcrackers on Nov 17, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i think albert brooks is in futurama as well?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Nov 18, 2008 1:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

“What’s wrong with this country? Can’t a man walk down the street without being offered a job!!??”

And the end where he gets the Denver Broncos instead of what he really wants?

So classic.

“When you get home there’s gonna be another story on your house!”

Plus you’re right abut Albert Brooks in the movie. It would’ve been a hundred times better if they’d let Brooks play Hank Scorpio there instead of just some random guy.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

MVP votes are the new OBP.

by thedirkatron on Nov 19, 2008 4:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what are you bereaving

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Nov 16, 2008 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Our grandfather died last week

Ben hadn’t really had much contact with him in the last decade or so, but that isn’t going to keep him from taking the maximum amount of leave allowed for a death in the family.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 16, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hells to the yeah!

Thank you, corporate America!

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Nov 16, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Me and Adam's...

grandfather died.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Nov 16, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

To clarify...

…it was our really crazy grandfather from the Whataburger security guard incident story.

Not our grandfather with the extensive porn collection. He died in the late 80s.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 16, 2008 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well

condolences anyway

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Nov 16, 2008 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He had a good run of it...

he was 91.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Nov 16, 2008 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

More proof that...

…crazy people live to be very, very old.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 16, 2008 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Whew

I need that kind of reassurance.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Nov 16, 2008 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

My grandpa just turned 99

in October. The doctor said he has a heart of a 50 yo

A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555

by boomer1 on Nov 16, 2008 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

David Eckstein...

has the heart of a champion.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Nov 16, 2008 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So I've been told

A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555

by boomer1 on Nov 16, 2008 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Those diabolical Masons finally got their white whale

Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither.

by Brian Thomas on Nov 18, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Did he leave

his jars of crap to Ben?

Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.

"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky

by DJCahill on Nov 17, 2008 8:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That was the uncle, iirc.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

MVP votes are the new OBP.

by thedirkatron on Nov 19, 2008 3:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

I was thinking something like that was gonna be said. I was just kidding dog.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Nov 16, 2008 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Romo

14-3 on the road.

That’s ridiculous.

How come Adam only comes around when things are really bad?? - tyd3311

Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 16, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oxygen please.

by Athos on Nov 16, 2008 10:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bennett

more clutch catches than Fasano already.

How come Adam only comes around when things are really bad?? - tyd3311

Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 16, 2008 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

actually i think they're tied

fasano caught 1 to ice a victory vs. the colts in romo’s 1st season at qb. the colts were 9-0 at the time

sorry for interjecting and being a bit of a smartass

by studcrackers on Nov 16, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe

but Fasano’s drop in the playoff game against the Giants cemented his crappiness for me…

fair or not. heh.

How come Adam only comes around when things are really bad?? - tyd3311

Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 16, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Big win

I like their chances now

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 16, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Comments closed in the other thread before I could reply to DShepp

Love the copy/paste.

DShepp, I don’t think our arguments are that much different.

My argument is that from a week-to-week basis, I think the Giants, Panthers, Cardinals and (yes, even the) Bucs have been better. Obviously having Romo back is going to be big for this team, and the offense is going to be better (duh).

But the offensive line is still struggling (although they looked good in the 4th quarter tonight), Roy Williams has yet to get involved in a serious way, and the secondary is still the same secondary.

My argument isn’t, and has never been, that the Cowboys aren’t good (double negative, but I hope you know what I’m getting at). I only think that the Cowboys fall into that same category as the Panthers, Bucs and Cardinals, and maybe the Falcons: good, not great.

And from a week-to-week basis, I just feel that the Panthers, Bucs and Cardinals have been better. Does that mean that I think they have a higher ceiling than the Cowboys? No. But I do think they’ve been more consistently good.

"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer

by ghtd36 on Nov 16, 2008 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

"Still the same secondary"

Do you mean the secondary of the first 3 games when everyone was healthy and they did a good job against Cleveland and Green Bay (but admittedly, not against Philly)? Or the secondary that has been banged up since then?

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 16, 2008 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I mean the secondary, period.

Though this secondary has improved exponentially since Roy Williams went on IR.

"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer

by ghtd36 on Nov 16, 2008 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Terrence

Newman was huge tonight. Him coming back made a world of difference

by jonthefon on Nov 16, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Roy Williams

How much did you expect him to be involved thus far? His first two games were with Brad Johnson as QB. he was coming to a new team in the middle of the season and having to learn a new offense on the fly. Now he has not only had to learn a new offense but get in sync with the regular QB. His role will expand as the season moves along. he was brought in here to be a force at the end of the season not right now.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 17, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

how do the skins have the tie-breaker over the 'boys?

How come Adam only comes around when things are really bad?? - tyd3311

Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 16, 2008 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Conference records?

by jonthefon on Nov 16, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

they have the tiebreaker over TB

by Randy Richardson on Nov 16, 2008 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Trent Dilfer

how does he know how the Cowboys practice during the week?

How come Adam only comes around when things are really bad?? - tyd3311

Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 16, 2008 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's simple, really.

He talks out of his ass.

"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer

by ghtd36 on Nov 16, 2008 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

big win

Marion is a beast!

I can’t remember the last time that a RB in the pros had the ball every play on a 6+ min drive (not counting the kneel downs, of course). 11 consecutive touches.

by Randy Richardson on Nov 16, 2008 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Jacobs>Barber

"Obama is a Christian - He's always been a Christian...But.........what if he is[a Muslim]? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer is no, that's not America." Colin Powell on Obama/Muslim assertions.

by AirJordan on Nov 16, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Giants offensive line>Cowboys offensive line

by tyd3311 on Nov 16, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Correct.

I think Jacobs more or less = Barber, but I’d take MBIII if faced with the choice.

"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer

by ghtd36 on Nov 16, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd take Jacobs over Barber

By a small margin as a runner, but Barber’s exponentially better as a receiver. Jacobs flat-out can’t catch.

by Conjunction on Nov 17, 2008 8:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

As long as he doesn't have to catch a ball.

Or make a guy miss.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 16, 2008 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sure they were mentioned in the other thread for accolades but

Ratliff, Newman and Scandrick played great IMO. Newman came out for one play and they got us on Moss. Henry had Randle-El in the slot, and they get 20+ on him on an easy play. Scandrick has been really impressive overall imo.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 16, 2008 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Agree.

It’s hard at times to tell who’s the #1 draft pick.

That being said, Jenkins has, I think, a ton more raw talent.

by brettgardner on Nov 16, 2008 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I'd agree about Jenkins.

He is still pretty raw. In a couple years, if Newman stays healthy, the ’Boys could have a pair of legit lockdown corners.

"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer

by ghtd36 on Nov 16, 2008 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Also

Ratiliff is really looking special.

Hard to believe he was the last choice in that wonderful ’05 draft.

by brettgardner on Nov 16, 2008 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

He really cushions the disappointment from Spears, etc.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 17, 2008 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The part that really hurts

Is that we got 6 guys who regularly contribute in ‘05 (if you’re being kind to Burnett and Spears) but absolutely nothing from ‘06. ’04 sucked also, and ’07 hasn’t done too much yet. ‘08 I’m feeling good about, though.

I think you’re in good shape if you get 2-3 really solid contributors per draft, but to hit on so little makes winning hard.

by brettgardner on Nov 17, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sideline reporters not named Erin Andrews:

Yay or nay?

"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer

by ghtd36 on Nov 16, 2008 10:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Depends.

by jonthefon on Nov 16, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No!

A hundred times no. Especially the grimace-inducing Andrea Kramer…

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 16, 2008 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

im going back and watching some of this game again

Cowboys Oline was very beastly…huge holes for MB3 and plenty of time for Romo to throw…

How come Adam only comes around when things are really bad?? - tyd3311

Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 16, 2008 10:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I actually disagree on the latter.

They weren’t awful, but a QB who isn’t Tony Romo would have been havine a lot of trouble behind that line.

They were good in the run game, though, which is, I feel, their real strength.

And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

by philkid3 on Nov 17, 2008 6:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

The Cowboys had more quick route stuff in than I’ve ever seen with Romo. Those slant INTs came on plays where they were trying to get the ball out, like, immediately. Their early gameplan looked like they were playing the 85 Bears/90 Eagles/00 Ravens, etc. with the sort of passes they were throwing.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 17, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tony's wardrobe

very lol.

by tyd3311 on Nov 16, 2008 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Douchy

by Brett Perryman on Nov 16, 2008 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, he indicated that Jessica may have had a doing in that.

by tyd3311 on Nov 16, 2008 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

**had a hand in that.

by tyd3311 on Nov 16, 2008 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Figures

I would hope that a man wouldn’t dress himself like that, much less a football player.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 16, 2008 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

under appreciated Cowboy

Just wanted to say that Deon Anderson is a damn good lead blocker and nobody ever seems to mention his contributions to the running game. As someone who used to play that position, he does a really nice job.

I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.

by tricer on Nov 17, 2008 7:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Deon Anderson rocks

See, your boy gets some love

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Nov 17, 2008 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The DMN blog does

although in fairness they seem to mostly just like him for his nickname.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Two out of three

Stellar defensive efforts since Wade took over..that’s what I’m looking for.

I’ve pretty much realized in recent weeks, DC is every bit as important as OC. This fixes up some holes in the thoery. Why are some OC’s very good, then on another team very bad? Because if that teams defense sucks, the good OC cant necessarily overcome it.

Season saving win, and the tough one. Now need to hold serve against SF and Seattle. Both those teams still scare me on offense because of Martz/Holmgren. However at home they are less threat.

Then you enter the 4 tough games. The ones Cowlishaw claims are going to sink the Cowboys (his recent column stated the Boys would likely be 8-4, but then would be sunk by that 4 game stretch).

I think, if you say the Cowboys aren’t likely to take 2 out of 4 of those games you’re probably crazy. Then you just hope 10-6 gets it done. But if they get to 8-4, they’re once again playing with house money and I’ll sure as hell be a lot more relaxed.

There’s not one of those 4 games I dont think we can win. Including the Giants. Pitt is not what they used to be, that game is the easy one.

I note this is the yearly “3 games in 11 days” stretch for the boys. I thought before Sundays game, how much more we’ll known in 11 days..

by Sharky on Nov 17, 2008 9:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

So as long as you have the OC and DC

Head Coach and players can be mediocre and you still can win.

Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.

"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky

by DJCahill on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

Head coach is totally meaningless.

I laugh every time I look at Coughlin and all the credit he gets in NY. That dufus is no less dufus than he was when the NY media wanted his head on a platter not so long ago.

But now suddenly he’s such a great coach. Gee, what changed???

Also, there are no mediocre players, in the NFL..there’s very, very, little talent differentiation…everybody is 6’4" and runs very fast. Everybody.

The QB is the one place you see the most, obviously..

But the change is I used to put it all on the OC. I’m coming to realize in the last few weeks, DC is probably just as important.

by Sharky on Nov 17, 2008 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

o_O

Don’t break all that ground.

Bring up Matt West '09

by Chase Irwin on Nov 20, 2008 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jen Floyd Engel

I used to stick up for this chick but now I cant stand her.

First of all, something innately bugs me about women commenting on a male sport like football, as if they know something about it..they cant play the game..

Second it bugs me when a young female especially harshly criticizes..like football coaches or something.

Jen has really been ripping on Wade lately and it annoys the crap out of me. You know, what the hell does she know about football??

Whether she’s right or wrong about it. I just dont want to hear it coming from her..

But anyway, I just thought it was funny because in Wades postgame presser, she asked some obnoxious question about if the penalties frustrated Wade (she’s trying to be negative about the team/Wade as usual) and he just gave the iciest answer..just said “Yes, penalties frustrate me” then looked around for the next question. Wouldn’t even look at her. I dont think he likes her..it was worth a chuckle,

by Sharky on Nov 17, 2008 9:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Texas Tech

I was interested to find out TT had got a new DC midway through last season.

This didn’t surprise me that much..the difference in Tech this year (besides some luck) is probably that they’ve got a defense.

Leach’s offense was always there, will always be there..but what changed was probably the DC…

You so often see sudden improvement traceable to a change at a coordinator..

by Sharky on Nov 17, 2008 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Whoops

This was supposed to reply to one post up..

by Sharky on Nov 17, 2008 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tech also has a better running game than at

any other time in the Leach Era.

We’re stuck out there in Lubbock…350 miles from anything and probably have the Heisman Trophy QB, the best WR in the country, the best OLine in the Big 12, a decent defense that’s not going to kill you, one of the top 10 coaches in the country AND WE STILL CAN’T FIND A FUCKING KICKER!!!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Nov 17, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i seriously doubt that harrell wins the heisman – not saying he doesnt deserve to but he has to overcome the idea he is a “system QB”

i just hope fucking tebow doesnt win again…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Nov 18, 2008 1:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think the Heisman winner

comes out of the Big 12 because it has been such a banner year for the conference. Maybe I’m a homer but I think Harrell has the inside track as of today but it’s shaky ground.

ESPN has had a hard on for Colt McCoy all year and Harrell was the much better player when they matched up. The Tech / Texas game this year was something like the 5th highest rated game in ABC television history and their most viewed game of the year so just about everybody that mattered saw it.

On that biggest stage at the biggest moment, Harrell outshined McCoy and then won the game in spectacular fashion.

Harrell has to play at least as well as Bradford this weekend to salt it away. If Tech wins the game, Harrell wins the Heisman.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

isnt JFE

just following what galloway says, everyone up at that station and paper i just assumed followed galloways command b/c rarely does someone argue against that beating

by studcrackers on Nov 17, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs