OT - Muschamp to stay at Texas
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 18, 2008 3:54 PM CST
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Pretty exciting news for UT fans as Muschamp agrees to stay at Texas and eventually become the next head coach.
Per MackBrown-TexasFootball.com:
The University of Texas has struck an agreement with Defensive Coordinator Will Muschamp that will keep him in Austin and eventually lead him to the head coaching position for the Longhorns, Athletics Director DeLoss Dodds said on Tuesday. Details of the contract are still being finalized but it will start with Muschamp's salary being raised to $900,000 on January 1, 2009.
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As long as he still has time to update BaseballTimeinArlington, I'm fine with it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
MVP votes are the new OBP.
by thedirkatron on Nov 18, 2008 3:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious
"I would say that our gaping hole isn’t nearly as gaping as the A’s hole [was] or Mariner’s would be." - tyd3311
by lonestarJon on Nov 18, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very interesting
I really thought Major was in line for that job, like Jason Garrett but on a much longer time line.
Fine with me, I love Muschamp’s tenacity… but I LOVE Mack and the program he’s built at this university. Hopefully Muschamp will be our D coordinator for 5 more years or so and give the defensive scheme some stability.
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Nov 18, 2008 4:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
agree
I thought it would go to Major as well. I hope this doesn’t mean Applewhite is going to leave.
by thedudeabides on Nov 18, 2008 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Major
One’s got to think now that with Muschamp now in line to become head coach of UT that Major might leave the program here soon to go to a school that will give him a chance to let him become a head coach…
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
COMPLETELY
unimpressed with Major Applewhite. As the OC at Alabama he did nothing but complicate the system and confuse the players. I’m not suggesting that John Parker Wilson is a terrific quarterback, but when I see how much more Jim McElwain is getting out of his offense than Applewhite got out of it, I realize how overrated Major was/is as an offensive guru.
And before you argue that the improvement is because of Julio Jones – realize that the Tide lost their top two receivers from last year (DJ Hall and Keith Brown), one of which had significantly better numbers than Jones has.
"Fielding isn't that important" - Save Us 11/11/08
by Haeger Champ on Nov 18, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally understand
I saw some games that Applewhite coached at Alabama, but I honestly feel that Applewhite was thrown in that position too soon (meaning, OC). The guy is still in his 20s and has years ahead of him to learn the ballgame, which he should have done at Bama. Hell, being thrown into your first OC job in the SEC, made OCs can look bad. Take it from me, someone who hopes to become a coach in college football, its better to learn the position first before becoming one.
BTW, I love Julio Jones. That kid is a player. Still not impressed with Wilson as a QB (think he makes too many stupid mistakes that could cost his team, say against Florida). Does Bama have any good young QBs in the wings?
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, a couple
JPW will graduate this year… many Bama fans are thrilled. He holds most of the passing records at Bama, but until this year, hasn’t shown the ability to win a big game. That being said, if he can win 3 more, he’ll go down as one of the greats: Namath, Starr, Stabler, and John Parker Wilson?
Star Jackson was a top recruit last year (what a sweet name). He’s a dual threat guy from Florida. Pretty exciting. The other option on our roster is Greg McElroy (from Southlake Carroll). He seems pretty solid – but not spectacular. Lastly, we’ve got a verbal commit from AJ McCarron from Mobile. He had a stellar Junior year but has battled injury this year. Not sure he’ll see the field at Bama for quite some time.
The future looks bright. Payback is hell, Auburn!
"Fielding isn't that important" - Save Us 11/11/08
by Haeger Champ on Nov 18, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i liked major > muschamp
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 18, 2008 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Muschamp
[Tom Hicks] Great success [/Tom Hicks]
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 4:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As a Texas Tech fan..
Good.
Why am I supposed to be impressed with him?
Very showy, lots of clapping and chest-bumping, wears a wristband, gets lots of camera time but when forced to play the very best offenses in the conference, Texas pissed themselves this year.
If Britton doesn’t drop a 1st half touchdown pass and the zebras don’t call a bs offensive interference on Crabtree, Tech would have hung half-a-hundy on Muschamp’s defense.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
if by pissed themselves, you mean Gideon dropped a gimme interception with seconds remaining on the clock to shore up a victory for Texas, then we pissed the shit out of ourselves
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Nov 18, 2008 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Texas played horrible, horrible
defense against Texas Tech.
31 first downs, 579 total yards., 8-16 3rd Down Efficiency
Tech gets the ball on their own 37 with 1:23 left in the game and shoved it right up Muschamp’s ass to win the game.
I’m glad he’s the new Assistant Somesuch in Waiting because he’s not that good.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And yet it took a miracluous play for yall to win
Don’t worry after leach leaves Lubbock will go back to being the shithole it has always been and you’ll never sniff football glory again.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There wasn't anything
“miraculous” about the play Crabtree made. Muschamp’s safety (Thomas?) gave up on the play and Crabtree just strolled into the zone.
Affirmative on Lubbock being a shit-hole and usually a cold one but it was beautiful the evening of November 1, 2008.
Seriously, I don’t the get it with Muschamp because he really hasn’t done anything and I think Mack is signed up to be at UT for the next 7-8 years or so.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
muschamps safety?
wtf was he out there whispering in his ear?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 18, 2008 5:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
You’re happy as a Techster. Great. Move on to something else maybe?
by Brett Perryman on Nov 18, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Texas ex
i don’t give a flying fuh what you think.
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 18, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How many points did that vaunted TT offense score on us?
How about OU?
How about OSU?
How about Mizzou?
We have the 2nd best rushing D in the conference and we hold opponents to the fewest points. We are 2nd in the NATION in sacks per game.
Woulda,coulda,shoulda but didn’t. It took a last second play from your amazing WR who you won’t have next year to beat us in your own stadium.
So now besides being a giant baseball douche you are also a college football jackass?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You gave up 35 points to OU.
You gave up 31 points to Mizzou.
Up against teams with close to the same talent, the Texas D is rather pedestrian.
Tech gave up only 20 points to OSU and RMcNeil doesn’t have nearly as much talent to work with as Muschamp.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its ok…OU will win.
it may pain me to say it, but in the pecking order of teams i dislike
aTm
TT
OU
go ou.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 18, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our 2nd and 3rd team defenses gave up 31 to Mizzou
We have held every explosive offense in the Big12 well under their normal output.
We held the TT offense without a TD from midway through the 2nd quarter until the last second of the game.
Oh and that is usually playing 4 FR/SO in the defensive backfield at a time. Our two starting safeties are both freshmen and the backup is a freshman.
It was a great game and yall beat us. Theres no denying or aguing that. But don’t come on here and tell me Texas pissed itself against Tech. Im not even going to mention the fact that Tech was our 4th game in 4 weeks against Top 11 teams. We were 2 seconds from becoming the first program in the history of college football to beat 4 teams ranked that high in a row.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Texas pissed themselves against Texas Tech.
All your little blue chip well paid recruits got their asses handed to them in every way by Mike Leach and his little pirates.
When you give up 579 yards and 31 first downs, you are absolutely dominated.
Who gives a rat’s ass about your 4th game in a row against a Top 11 team? It’s the Big 12 South and that’s how we roll.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
Please stop.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on Nov 18, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that matters is points
You can go for 1000 yards of offense but if you stall everytime in the redzone and kick FGs or turn it over on downs the D did its job. And I think you forgot how we held you to zero TDs for over 40 minutes of game clock. Yall came out with alot of passion which is to be expected since it was the first meaningful game in that shithole ever. We weathered your storm and then started showing who the best team in the nation was.
Im guessing you are one of those Tech “fans” who didn’t own so much as a TT hat before Nov 1. But on Nov 2nd you had the entire wardrobe and were proclaiming yourself a lifelong Tech fan. Its ok because next year you can jump on the Baylor bandwagon.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey man.
You watch out for them Baylor Bears.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on Nov 18, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They look good
Dad, who use to play for them long time ago, says that, here in the next 4 years with that QB they will beat one of either Tech, UT or the Sooners….and right now, I kindof believe him…
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well if "dad" says so...
joking!
"Fielding isn't that important" - Save Us 11/11/08
by Haeger Champ on Nov 18, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Been a Tech fan
for nearly 30 years Big Steve.
First game in person I saw was in 1980 and Tech beat you 24-20. Ted Watts & Tate Randle took back pick 6’s. Tech had 24-0 lead after first quarter, Texas scored 20 points in the second quarter and that ended up being the final score.
I saw them in person beat you in ‘86,’88 (Billy Joe T threw a late td) and ‘89 (loved the 50 yd or so Jamie Gill pass to AMeriweather I saw in person and then got rip roaring drunk at Scholz’s) with a couple minutes left in the game.
The 90’s are a little fuzzy but I know they throttled you twice in a row and also in Spike’s last year.
The ‘02 game (42-38) was a classic. Loved seeing that little puss Chris Simms gack it up and you boys still don’t know what to do with the great Wes Welker.
The ‘08 game was the all-time classic and the scoreboard doesn’t define just how badly Texas got whipped.
Stick that up your overrated underachieving bandwagon.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Least surprising fact ever?
Josey is a tech fan?
In my experience, the easiest group of fans to stereotype in the country.
by ericeric on Nov 18, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no, I've been "stereotyped"
I guess you really got me there.
Seriously, I don’t have it in for UT (lots of UT friends) but from the get-go Muschamp has got under my skin. He appears to embody every aspect of style over substance since he’s been here.
Go dominate somebody that has as much or close to as much talent as UT does and I’ll start paying attention to him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're misrepresenting Brett Gardner
and you’re making him look bad.
He’s not as stupid as you, is he?
Bring up Matt West '09
by Chase Irwin on Nov 18, 2008 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the scoreboard doesn’t define just how badly Texas got whipped.
actually the scoreboard is the only thing that matters. wins and losses=matter
first downs + yards of total offense=dont matter…as a tech fan you should have known that for a long time
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How exactly did they piss themselves?
One dropped INT by a true freshman safety and UT wins. That’s not exactly getting their asses handed to them in every way.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 18, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
asses handed to them=win on a last sec play
confused
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
he was the DC at LSU when they won the National Champ in ‘04. That’s impressive.
At Auburn he 7th in Division I-FBS teams in scoring defense in 2006. In 2007, Auburn led the SEC in scoring defense and finished in the top 10 in four defensive categories (ranking 7th nationally in pass efficiency10 and 6th nationally in total defense11, passing defense12 and scoring defense13 among NCAA Division I-FBS teams). That’s impressive.
His Texas defense is leading the offensively superior Big 12 in scoring defense and rush defense. That’s impressive.
I’m actually failing to see what there is to be unimpressed about?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 18, 2008 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He coaches at Texas
and nobody in the Big 12 likes Texas enough to be honest with themselves about talent and ability. Mack Brown gets outcoached, Muschamp sucks, underachieving squad, Vince is the only good player TX has ever had… ya know, the standard.
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Nov 18, 2008 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see Josey
has no response..typical….
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 18, 2008 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't have enough game
to get on the radar with me, Diggler.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 6:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
Instead of actually coming up with a reasoned response I get this. Congratulations on becoming even more irrelevant.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 19, 2008 7:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm somehow irrelevant
yet you’re worried about my response.
I’ve made my opinions about Muschamp known (awesome game plans v. Florida Atlantic, UTEP, and Rice…what a defensive guru!!) but I’ve also shown that I respect UT.
If you need my takes on the game between Tech & Texas, scroll all around this thread.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are irrelevant
because you refuse to acknowledge points made that counter your assertions. I gave you 3 or 4 reasons to be impressed with Muschamp, yet you just look at one game and say you’re not impressed.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 19, 2008 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BS Calls?
I didn’t hear Tech fans complaining about the “zebras” in the first half while their O-Line was given a free pass to mug the Texas D-Line.
by rcreative on Nov 18, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or the second half if you wanna mention it...
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 18, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Holding
I find it almost impossible that Tech could attempt that many passes and not get called for a single hold.
Not one
Oh and the fact they led the Big 12 in penalties for going into the game and then all of a sudden don’t commit a single hold while attempting that many passes?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Tech OL kicked your asses that night.
Not sure but I don’t think they had any holding calls v. Okie State either. They’re well coached and very talented at what they do.
Credit is due for the two long bombs and the last drive. That’s what good teams do. The picked up flag on Shipley’s punt return for td was criminal (the penalty was blatant) and equally as bad was the offensive interference call on Crabtree.
UT has a very good team this year but Tech was demonstrably and undeniably better on the scoreboard and in the stats.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tech holding
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
but I’m I firm believer that holding could be called on almost every play, especially in college.
Beat those Cougs.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 18, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna argue that
But when you, not you personally, say “They’re well coached and very talented at what they do.” it makes me laugh especially when i have seen pics like this.
Before the Texas game Tech was the most penalized team in the Big 12 and to attempt that many passes with zero holding calls is frankly absurd.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
But with the guy in the 3rd picture holding Orakpo up like a talking dummy, it sorta throws that argument out. To say that any of those four pictures should not qualify as a holding penalty is absurd, and I have no doubt many more pictures could be found that would show more of the same thing.
Either way, what’s done is done, UT is still (in my opinion) the better team overall, and Tech now has the chance that UT should probably have. And Tech pulled the game out on a night when they had good stuff and Texas didn’t. And that’s about all we can say about it at this point.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 19, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have a picture
of the look on Colt’s face after Crabtree’s td?
Another fave was Mack being led off the field surrounded by troopers. He looked like he was going to a funeral.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell ya what, Big Steve..
As you can only imagine, I have that game Tivo’d. Seeing Crabrtee walking off the field amidst the chaos and having a couple of fans walk next to him with their cameras rolling was a beautiful sight.
I also have GameDay from that morning with Bob Knight (“I have a lot of good friends at Texas but today is not the time for that. I deeply hope we beat their ass.”) and the post-game ESPN circle jerk as well.
I’ll look at the two pics that are time stamped and watch it in real time. The individual pics you have don’t mean dick because you don’t see then entire play.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What else is there to see
Harrell has the ball and is dropping back to pass. In all four of those pics the DL beats the OL (#74 is in 3 of them) and the OL grabs him around the neck from behind. The pic of Orakpo is where he got injured.
Pic 1 both Kindle (#2) and the other DE are being held
Pic 2 the DT rushing up the middle is being held
Pic 3 Orakpo is being held as well as a hands to the face by the other OT
Pic 4 the DE is being held
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, Big Steve
You need to see the full play unless there is an obvious grab of the jersey.
Play #1 – Yeah, Texas got boned. It was a 2nd & 5 play that was completed to DLewis. What, do you think you were going to stop Harrell at 2 & 15 when he was 40-50 that night?
Play#2 – No sale. Not holding at all. Morris scored on the play.
What I also noticed during that 2nd Quarter is how many times Texas was holding the Red Raiders. Colt McCoy went for a big 30 yard run at the end of the 2nd quarter that was key and there was a blatant hold by the Texas OL. There were two or three other plays that quarter where Texas could have been called for holding.
Look, we agree that Lubbock is a shit-hole, made much worse by the presence of the resident faux intellectual BGardner. Spending a few years going to college there will shape your character and influence your attitude.
I also admire UT’s success, don’t begrudge them at all and have zero jealousy.
I just don’t get it with Will Muschamp. Go dominate somebody who has equal or near equal talent and take off the freaking wristband before we make you the head coach of one of the most prestigious programs in the country.
And one more thing, Tech did not play their A game v. Texas.
The Special Teams play was atrocious. Britton dropped a TD pass. Crabtree fumbled in the 2nd quarter with the score 19-0 which gave Texas life (and a FG). Tech had you 3rd & 26 at the end of the 2nd and allowed you to convert (which became a FG). Harrell took a really bad sack that took the ball from the 11 yard line to the 24 yard line. Tech got inside your 10 yard line twice in the second half and came away with only 3 points. A 91 yard bomb to Williams (are you fucking kidding me!?) and another big play to Buckner (?) where he should have been tackled.
I give Tech a solid B for their play against Texas.
Tech did play their A game v. Okie State and if they play that same way v. Oklahoma they will win going away.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just to clarify...
Do you happen to think Texas brought their A game at ANY point that night?
There were dropped passes by about 5 different guys, the least of which was a sure-fire TD by Shipley (the most sure-handed guy I think I’ve ever seen), there were piss-poor coverages, there were dropped interceptions (oh, the nightmares I’ve had about those…), the offensive line was ATROCIOUS, and the running game was stuck in traffic on I-35.
Look, I won’t deny that Tech outplayed UT in the first half, and for part of the 3rd quarter. But when UT even thought about their A game (see 4th quarter sans the last 1:32), Tech got their butts handed to them. On the night as a whole, I’d give Texas’ game a C+ at best.
To think that Tech didn’t bring their A game either is ridiculous. That first half was about as good as it got (aside from last weekend’s whooping of Okie State).
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 18, 2008 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Texas' D
Pulled this off a different message board
Impressive accomplishment by the defense this year given the youth in the critical safety positions.
- We have held every single opponent below their season scoring average. We didn’t come close to this last year.
- 5 of those opponents we held to their season low in scoring (FAU, UTEP, Rice, OU, and Kansas)
- held OU to its lowest offensive yardage output all year
- 2 other opponents were held to their second lowest point total
- That’s not including Missouri where every single point could be counted as “garbage time”
- We held Kansas to its lowest offensive output in 3 years.
- The defense’s worst game came against Tech, when we only held them to 19% below their season average.
- On average, Texas’ defense is holding opposing teams to 45% under their season average point totals.
- By comparison, OU’s defense is holding opposing teams to only 15% under their season averages. They’ve actually allowed four teams more points than their season averages (including Texas).
Im not arguing against Tech playing a good game. yall kicked our ass that first quarter. It was to be expected. That was yalls biggest game ever. It didn’t help we shot ourselves in the foot with boneheaded mistakes (Shipley dropping a TD pass, Greg Davis calling a run up the middle at the 1 yard line on our first offensive play when yall were all jacked up). But once we settled down and got into the flow there is no denying we came right back and for about 40 minutes of game clock we wiped the floor with yall. You didn’t score a TD until the very last second of the game. Don’t come on here and try and say Texas’ D pissed themselves. Because that is a claim you cannot backup.
Tech has averaged 566 yards per game for the season. So you got a smidge more than your average against us. Harrell has completed 72% of his passes on the year so he actually did worse against Texas than normal. He only completed 36 of 53 for 68%.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And one more thing, Tech did not play their A game v. Texas
you think texas played their “a” game as well?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Texas D was manhandled the entire
game by the Tech offense. They simply whipped your ass. I’d give Muschamp’s defense that night a D-.
Your offense gets a B-. Got their asses kicked in the first half, picked up lots of momentum on Shipley’s bogus td punt return and was awesome in the last quarter, particularly the MWilliams WR from Garland.
One other thing I noticed during my Tivo session last night…You guys are whining about Gideon’s drop in the 4th, Tech DB Charbonnet who had one Pick 6, should have had another in the second quarter but he dropped it.
If I had to grade the teams for their efforts I’d give Texas a C- and Tech a B.
If we play our A game like we played v. Okie State we kick your ass at home by 17+ points and 10 points on a neutral field.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're delusional
Thats all there is to say. We held you to your average yards per game. We held your QB under his average completion percentage for the game. We held your offense well under its average points per game. And you won by a last second TD on an amazing play by the best WR in college football. Yet somehow that translates into we got our asses kicked and our D pissed themselves.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the best WR and possibly the best player in college football
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Big Steve, there really
isn’t anything more to argue about on this subject.
Both of us are happy that Muschamp is not leaving.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which one of these is true
you think that if texas plays its A game and TT plays its A game, texas tech beats texas by 17+ at home and by 10 on a neutral field
or
you think that if texas plays a c- and tech plays an A game, TT wins by 17+ at home and by 10 on a neutral field
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I said..
“If we play our A game like we played v. Okie State we kick your ass at home by 17+ points and 10 points on a neutral field….” and I should have included that if Texas plays like they did in Lubbock.
If both teams play their A game, I like our chances against your defense.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok but not by 17/10 — ok i feel better
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so lets get this straight
you think that if texas plays its A game and TT plays its A game, texas tech beats texas by 17+ at home and by 10 on a neutral field
or
you think that if texas plays a c- and tech plays an A game, TT wins by 17+ at home and by 10 on a neutral field
—-
if you think that if both play their best games, tech is 17+/10 pts better than texas you are out of your mind
anyway, we will know how good TT is after they play OU
also, here are the games TT has played on the road:
@ nevada
@ kansas state
@ aTm
@ kansas
lets see how it is when they play @ OU
i almost guarantee that they lose.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also
i gues those ’huskers “had their asses handed to them” as well
when nebraska played @ TT
neb had 29 1st downs
tt had 16
neb had 471 total yards
tt had 421
neb was 7-12 on 3rd downs
tt was 4-8
possession: neb had it for 40:12
tt had it for 19:48
TT wins in OT when the ’husker QB attempts to throw it away but it is such a bad pass that TT intercepts it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re well coached and very talented at what they do.
if you think no o line ever holds you probably should quit watching foorball right now.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
When I saw the title I was ready to roll my eyes and say we’ll see. Pretty surprised that they would put in place a plan for him to take over. I love the guy, but I’ve never really considered how well I thought he could run an organization like Texas football. They wouldn’t have the soft label at least, you know that.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 18, 2008 4:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I had a feeling something like that would happen
Muschamp just seems like someone who loves Texas and wants to stay around here…
Same with Applewhite, I know he loves Austin a bit too much, I could see him be our OC for a while…
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 18, 2008 4:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"bit too much"
what is that a reference to? i think i get it…
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Nov 18, 2008 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see this as..
a knee jerk reaction. I’ve got a feeling one or more of Tennessee, Clemson, maybe even Auburn came calling about him being their headcoach. Instead of losing him after year one, they decided to lock him up.
Not an awful move, if the goal was to keep him as DC. But if Mack’s not there for the foreseeable future, UT fans could be in trouble.
"Fielding isn't that important" - Save Us 11/11/08
by Haeger Champ on Nov 18, 2008 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree
This isn’t in place for him to take over next year. he has a chance to learn from the man in texas football how to be the HC at UT. He already has the perfect attitude for a HC on the field, now he will have a chance to learn from one of the sports finest the finer points off the field. How to gladhand the donors, how to get in with the HS coaches across the state, etc. Its not like he will be taking over a struggling program and have to turn it around. He’ll be passed an amazing program with great roots and just have to keep it on course.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just like
Ron Zook? Larry Coker???
Learning from “the man” and inheriting a great program doesn’t guarantee success.
"Fielding isn't that important" - Save Us 11/11/08
by Haeger Champ on Nov 18, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
zook got a bad rap
iirc the NC the gators won was won w/ zooks players
and he hasnt exactly sucked it up at illinois
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 18, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
“I don’t agree This isn’t in place for him to take over next year.”
I didn’t say it was. I simply said, “if Mack’s not there for the foreseeable future, UT fans could be in trouble.” And I stand by that. Mack Brown is a great coach. He’s done great things for UT. If this is in place so he can disappear sooner than later, the rest of the Big 12 south will sleep easier at night.
"Fielding isn't that important" - Save Us 11/11/08
by Haeger Champ on Nov 18, 2008 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't think
Mack is going anywhere soon. He’s built a top 5 program in the country and has the biggest hotbed of recruiting talent to infuse the system with every year.
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Nov 18, 2008 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and he's only 57
not like he’s joepa or anything
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 18, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dodds is 71
Brown will be AD before he’s 60 and Muschamp will be HC before he’s 40. Makes perfect sense.
by robert_d_wilfong on Nov 18, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the move
Muschamp really has done a lot of good things for that defense this year. Yeah, they’re still letting up a lot of points, but when you got some of the QBs in the Big 12 going against any team in the nation they are going to put points on the board. Also hes working with a young secondary that will only grow and get better, and to get them on the field this year is good (except when you put one of them on Crabtree at the end of the Tech game, which was stupid IMO). And it looks like his players like him and enjoy playing with him
Like i said before, what does this do to Major? Hes a smart football coach and a Head Coach in the making, so does he leave UT here soon to go to a school that gives him the chance to become a Head Coach?
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 4:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They are holding teams to the fewest points in the Big 12
They aren’t letting up a lot of points. Tech scoring 36 points is not alot of points. OU scoring 35 is not alot of points. Those are two of the best offenses in college football who average north of 45 points per game. To hold them to two scores below their average is pretty dang good.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
I’m just looking at the people that are saying that, “well, they allowed 30+ points to the Sooners, or Tech, or Mizzou, or Kansas.” All these teams have great QBs that i think will be playing on Sundays, and its difficult to shut down these teams. And Muschamp is doing it with half of his secondary as Sophmores or younger, which is imprssive. He’s helped a secondary that was like 95th in the country last year in pass defense, which was a major concern for many UT fans. All hes done this year is a successful for UT and its a good move for UT to lock him down for the next 5 years, since there were rumors of him possibly going to Tenn or Auburn or something after the year
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on the Applewhite thing.
I mean, how must he feel right now? I wonder if he doesn’t start shopping around for jobs soon.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on Nov 18, 2008 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he feels just fine i would assume.
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 18, 2008 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno...
Wasn’t he suppose to be head coach in the making when they brought him back to UT? I thought they promised him that when he came back?
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think they did
But, if it was up to me Major would be my replacement for Mack (basically because of the alumni connection), but I have no problem with Muschamp;
If there is a choice between a great DC and a great OC I would always give the edge to the DC, it’s harder to be a good defensive coach in this or any league when your side of the ball is in a reactive position. Add that to Muschamp’s skills and personality on the field, he was/is a must keep here at Texas for the future.
As for Major, he’s been given big time opportunities from the start as a coach, from becoming the OC fairly fast at a big time program just a few years out of being a GA. He’s still really really young, and I don’t doubt he will be the HC of the Longhorns sometime in the future…
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 18, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He wanted to get away from Sabin ... badly.
There were no promises made, other than he wouldn’t have to put up with Nick the Dick any more.
by robert_d_wilfong on Nov 18, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
You don’t think he feels a bit slighted?
He’s been at UT since 2003 as a grad assistant, and it certainly seemed to me that he was being groomed as Brown’s replacement. He’s pretty much burnt orange through and through.
Then, some Georgia Bulldog, in his first season in Austin, gets named head-coach-in-waiting.
Given those circumstances, I could understand if Applewhite feels slighted.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on Nov 18, 2008 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Then again take it with a grain of salt because I’m typing this in an office with a signed Applewhite jersey
by thedudeabides on Nov 19, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly an interesting move...
…especially in the timing. Hopefully this doesn’t mean Mack is out the door soon; he’s a classy guy who represents the conference well.
That said, one has to wonder which side Muschamp will fall in the “defensive coordinator to head coach” spectrum.
Gene Chizik (jury still out)
Bo Pelini (same)
Bill Belichick (success)
Lovie Smith (mediocre)
Romeo Crennell (mediocre)
Pete Carroll (success)
Randy Shannon (jury out)
Tommy Tuberville (mix of success and mediocrity)
That’s all I can think of off the top of my head, but I guess my point is that there has definitely been mixed results of defensive coordinators making the move to head coaches.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on Nov 18, 2008 5:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It didn't come across this way
above but I really do admire the UT football team and what Mack Brown has done in Austin.
I just don’t get it with Muschamp. I see lots of style and little substance.
My dislike is reserved for Texas A&M.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 18, 2008 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
little substance?
he has the best defense in the big 12
by Save us on Nov 18, 2008 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just remembered another.
Greg Robinson (epic fail)
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on Nov 18, 2008 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
err?
That’s all I can think of off the top of my head, but I guess my point is that there has definitely been mixed results of defensive coordinators making the move to head coaches.
you can say that about any coach, OC, DC, AC, OLC, QBC, any coach..
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 18, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my point.
Everyone who is saying that he will be a great head coach because he is a great defensive coordinator, or a lousy head coach because he’s a lousy defensive coordinator, or whatever the correlation du jour is, doesn’t hold water.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on Nov 18, 2008 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
Muschamp is going to be a a truly great coach and I’m glad Texas has named him the coach in waiting so he doesn’t go anywhere else
by Save us on Nov 18, 2008 5:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he looks like that coach from
friday night lights, the tv show..
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 18, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good catch
Best show on television (or the show no one can find or get right now)
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is why
knowledgeable fans know how big this is (lol)…nearly 100% approval…
Texas fans are more in agreement with this move than Rangers fans were with the Soriano trade. heh.
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 18, 2008 7:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
So is this the new fad in college football? To name your replacement before the head coach is gone to try and prevent another school from swooping in and grabbing good coaches from good programs. It made sense at Penn St. since Joe Pa is like 113 years old, but with Texas? Is Brown leaving anytime soon?
Beat those Cougs.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 18, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No Macks not leaving anytime soon
He’ll probably coach for another 5 years or more. But they have identified the guy they want to replace him and made strides to lock him up. Plus it allows Mack to take Muschamp under his wing and instead of look at him simply as another coordinator or assistant coach who is simply using this as a springboard to a head coaching position. He can look at him as his successor. When Mack does decide its his last year or two he can allow Muschamp to start implementing some of the things he wants to do in advance. he can also start getting Coach Boom intertwined with Texas High Schools. A coaches biggest job nowadays is recruiting. Coach Brown has Texas coaches wrapped around his finger. Now he can start introducing Muschamp and you won’t see any kind of slide in recruiting once he takes over.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 18, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well this sucks...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3710477
ESPN already hates the MWC because they wouldn’t play on Wed. or Fri. nights on ESPN and they went and created their own network. I sure hope the Utes get to the BCS this year because with ESPN having the BCS in a couple years it’s going to get tougher for any MWC team to get there.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 18, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh and...
Beat those Cougs.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 18, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gosh....
If only my Frogs didn’t miss two damn FGs in the 4th quarter, we be talking BCS. But I know i’ll be rooting for the Utes if they get there
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Nov 18, 2008 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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