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So, yeah, Dustin Pedroia won the MVP yesterday.  In the SBNation MVP balloting, I had Grady Sizemore first, but Pedroia was second, so that seems reasonable to me.

Evan Grant left Pedroia off his ballot altogether, which he says was probably a mistake.  Grant had Kevin Youkilis as the MVP, which is defensible, but then has K-Rod and Justin Morneau second and third, which is...weird.  K-Rod wasn't the best reliever in the A.L. last year, and Morneau wasn't the best player on his team.

Jeff Wilson had Pedroia as the MVP, but then he had Morneau second.  Ken Rosenthal mentioned yesterday that he thought Morneau deserved the MVP.  I don't get all the Morneau love.

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“But I will have you know that Pedroia was 18th in OPS, 27th in RBIs, 30th in batting average with runners in scoring position and 53rd in on-base percentage with runners in scoring percentage. I am aware he tied for the league lead in hits, led in runs scored and was second in batting average. But in the stats that to me suggest production and clutch hitting, he was dwarfed by the other players on the list.”

by jparks77 on Nov 19, 2008 8:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol

Bring up Matt West '09

by Chase Irwin on Nov 19, 2008 8:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who thinks

The funny part there is how he seems to think production and clutch hitting are two completely independent things?

"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL

by lonestarJon on Nov 19, 2008 9:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pedroia

Was dwarfed before he ever got into baseball. That is all.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Nov 19, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Nov 19, 2008 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

AJ

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spswisher1119,0,3430088.story

Red Sox have “significantly increased their involvement” on Burnett recently.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Nov 19, 2008 8:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Again

Just in light of Buchholz to Texas.

Thank you.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Nov 19, 2008 8:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It makes you wonder

if they really do see Buchholz as a Bailey type, mentally.

I sure hope they do, anyway.

Bring up Matt West '09

by Chase Irwin on Nov 19, 2008 8:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have never wanted Z to be more wrong than I do right now.

But I have to say that Z’s right about this. Buchholz isn’t coming to Texas for Salty.

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool

Not only that, now they can’t pawn him off on us.

"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL

by lonestarJon on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

Sons of Sam Horn speculates Ramirez is there to loosen up pitching that they’ll package for a catcher.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=39237

It’s all part of bringing Buchholz to Arlington. We know this.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Nov 19, 2008 10:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boston's bully was not overworked

last year so they’re getting ready to move somebody.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Morneau

Morneau already has one MVP he doesn’t deserve, glad he didn’t get a second.

I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.

by TheBZA on Nov 19, 2008 8:25 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Pedroia not valuable

Red sox won WS last year and didnt even make it this year. Thats not providing value. Rangers went from last place to 2nd place in their division. That shows value. I would have pick Hamilton and left off Pedroia too.

by Chow Time on Nov 19, 2008 8:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

last to second

in a weak division a watered down at that

by bullfighter20032000 on Nov 19, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Make some criteria/rules or leave the voters alone.

I think one rule should be that they can only vote for one player per team. I mean if a player isn’t the MVP of his team, then he certainly shouldn’t be considered for the MVP of the league.

If Galloway had done this, I’d say he was being a douche… but I think Evan had good intentions at least.

by Wemedge on Nov 19, 2008 8:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's dumb

You’re effectively saying that two Red Sox can’t both be better than a Royal.

by gr7070 on Nov 19, 2008 9:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No... what I'm saying is

if a player isn’t the MVP of his team, then he certainly shouldn’t be considered for the MVP of the league. The voters should have to decide that much at least.

by Wemedge on Nov 19, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hypothetical situation...

This offseason, the Stinkin’ Yankees somehow trade for Pujols and next year both A-Rod and Pujols have career seasons. The Yankees easily win the AL East, the pennant and the WS. All the BBWAA members are having heated arguments about who more valuable, A-Rod or Albert and end up splitting their vote. Everyone agrees that the third best player in the league that year was David Eckstein (now somehow in the AL) who put up career numbers, but was a distant third by all possible means of evaluating players. Your proposed rule would end up with Mr Grit winning the award because he would have had ALL the 2nd place votes, while A-Rod and Pujols split the 1st place vote and were ineligible to receive 2nd place votes.

by NorCalRangersFan on Nov 19, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're still saying it

That only makes sense if the writers only get to cast one vote for first place only.

The hypothetical illuistrates the problems.

If I’m casting votes for 1st – 10th place I absolutely need to be able to vote for two teammates ahead of a mediocre other teams best.

by gr7070 on Nov 19, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

While I am happy that Pujols won the NL MVP....

to me it really does not mean all that much. These awards are given out by the same ppl who were handing the Chicago Cubs the World Championship last spring before the season started. We all see how good that opinion was.

While the awards are fun in some ways, in the end they are decided by a few who think they are experts and get to voice their opinion. To me, the only true winners of the award that really counts were the Philadelphia Phillies.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.-Rogers Hornsby

by thegashousegang on Nov 19, 2008 8:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Very true

I give a shit about these awards, the only people that really benefit are the players that win them… increased leverage in arb and salary, bonus realization, national spotlight, etc.

The Phillies won the award that we want

"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"

by trident on Nov 19, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Pedroia earned it.

He had a very good year on a team that made the playoffs. To me, Youkilis was every bit as valuable as Pedroia.

I also thought Carlos Pena should have received a little more love.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 8:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

that is the way i c it to

by bullfighter20032000 on Nov 19, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pena

I don’t think so, he was pretty much crappy until mid-season, then great. A couple of months of goodness doesn’t equal MVP to me.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 19, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well

Manny finished 4th for being great in LA for only 2 months.

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Coco Crisp a Royal

for Ramon Ramirez. Could Ramirez be the second player coming in a deal with the Red Sox? I wouldn’t mind it…

by clark on Nov 19, 2008 9:00 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

for what it's worth

here is a scouting report on Ramirez. He will not be a FA until 2012.

by clark on Nov 19, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Newberg

certainly like him. How about Salty for Masterson and Ramirez? That would definitely help the bullpen. Is Ramirez capable of closing?

Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.

by RangerMad on Nov 19, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did I put "and"?

It would be a great deal and the Red Sox wouldn’t do it. Maybe they might be willing to do the Salty for Bucholz deal or maybe Salty for Masterson+ deal.

Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.

by RangerMad on Nov 19, 2008 9:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely a deal I would like to see happen.

If the reports are true that the Rangers were asking for either Buchholz or Masterson+Bowden, the inference might be that the Rangers might expect one of Bowden or Masterson to end up as a bullpen type, but it isn’t clear which of the two might develop in that way at this early stage. So, rather than guess which of the two will stay in the rotation, get them both.

I don’t think Boston would deal Masterson and Ramirez, but if they have the same feeling about Masterson/Bowden that I described above, they might be willing to move both of them since they have a clear power bullpen arm in Ramirez. Basically, they trade away the potential of a low cost starter at the backend of the rotation and some sort of bullpen arm for a known bullpen power arm and potential plus bat in the lower half of the batting order. All the while freeing up some money to go go after a rotation candidate. Good moves by Theo.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Nov 19, 2008 9:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for a Masterson + Ramirez for Salty

But is our 40 full right now? I have it on good authrity that the forty trumps all

by BEW on Nov 19, 2008 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Its not technically full but we are saving room for our rule 5 guys right now. If we did that deal I imagine we would just DFA Loe.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be very disappointed if we DFAed Loe

I’d imagine he will get claimed. He has been a very good reliever over the last 3 years (80+ IP and a 3.95 ERA). I’d like to see him as a long-reliever in the pen next season (even over Rupe).

by Stephen Rushin on Nov 19, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i will be very disappointed

if we just DFA any of these guys, because they all should represent upgrades to the right team, even though they have little value here. Arias is a perfect example of that.

by clark on Nov 19, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

couple of things

1. Wouldn’t Marlon Byrd have significantly more trade value than Coco Crisp? If so, we could, and I think we should, trade him for a young power reliever.

2. Wierd that Ramirez has a 93 mph fastball, an 88 mph change and an 87 mph slider. Not much difference in those pitches.

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Nov 19, 2008 10:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have been on the

trade Marlon Byrd bandwagon for a while now, as I think this team should be built to compete in 2009 and truly contend in 2010. he has now put up solid numbers for two straight seasons, but with our newfound glut of OFs he is not irreplacable, especially since he is only signed for one more year. I have no idea what the market for him is, and we haven’t heard his name (at least not yet) in trade rumors like we did last year, but if he can return a young pitcher, I am all for it.

by clark on Nov 19, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Per Byrd...

I think on a really good team, he’s a 4th OF.

He’s 32 years old, doesn’t have an .800+ OPS on the road…yes, it’d break Wash’s heart but I’d give him up for a decent young pitcher because he won’t be here if this thing ever gets turned around.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Nov 19, 2008 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at OPS+

which takes home parks into account. Show me a team that didn’t have a starting spot for a CF with a 123 OPS+ last year or a 113 OPS+ like in 07.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Nov 19, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't he a candidate for Type A next year?

If he’s a strong possibility, I rather hold onto him for the picks. I just don’t see a team giving us a package then the Type A right now.

by Coolbean04 on Nov 19, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jamey must have had some inside info

when he told us that Crisp was flippable?

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Nov 19, 2008 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

CFs like Crisp

are always flippable. He is a solid defensive player who has a clue offensively. I am not saying he didn’t, but I would also say that is a pretty sturdy limb to climb out on.

by clark on Nov 19, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sure

but Ramirez is an arm that he openly coveted, then he came on here and briefly mentioned that Texas receiving Crisp in a catcher trade would be a good thing, because Crisp could be flipped for value just kinda made me think that he knew something…

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Nov 19, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

KRod

Yeah, I e-mailed with Grant yesterday and at the end I said this:

“Personally, the biggest problem I have with your ballot seems to be KRod at 2nd. But, I am pleased as punch K Rod did not win the AL Cy Young. That would have just pissed me off.”

KRod was just not that good. He had a gaudy stat of all those saves, and a friend yesterday said to me “But what about all those one run games he saved?!” to which I said, “They were 1 run games because his WHIP and ERA were terrible.”

by FuturePants on Nov 19, 2008 9:25 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ranger representation on the list

Look at the teams that have 2 position players receiving votes:

Pedroia-Youk
Mauer-Morneau
Hambone-Kinsler
Quinton-Dye
Pena-Longoria

As far as position-player superstar duos, I think I would take the Rangers pair over any of those other pairings, bar none. The thing that occasionally frustrates me is that I’m not sure the pitching is going to get here in time to make benefit of our two guys peak seasons, which will likely be in the next couple years.

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Nov 19, 2008 9:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...

I would have to think about Mauer-Morneau or Pena-Longoria, just because I really, really like Mauer and Longoria…

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would probably take Upton-Longoria

over Hambone-Kinsler, but I was just using those that recieved MVP votes. The two combos that you mention are in the conversation, but a strong case can be made for any of those 3 duos.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that with Hambone-Kinsler-CD, we really have a foundation of elite level ML position player talent (all 3 yet to enter the age bracket typically associated as prime of career) that no other team in the AL can clearly beat. Of course, that elite position player talent just doesn’t take a team very far with no pitching.

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Nov 19, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

I would take Longoria and Upton. But if we expand this out one more, and include Davis on our end, then I am not sure if there is a team who can match that young, controllable talent. If you include Smoak, Ramirez, and our young catchers…there is just no team that can match that.

by clark on Nov 19, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

continuing along

That is why I would LOVE to see Sheets signed.

I think the Rangers as currently constructed need 3 crucial pieces (two TORGs and one ELIG), and they could be a pretty serious contender as soon as this year. You could potentially fill all three of those holes by signing Sheets and hoping that Holland / Feliz fill the other two spots. Trade a couple of the catchers, and maybe a ML OF like Byrd or Murphy to round out the roster and you have a pretty damn impressive club – and you haven’t really sacrificed any of the minor league depth.

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Nov 19, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is important

to time things right so that you build a competitive club while both Kinsler and Hambone are in the wheelhouse of their career. I’d hate for the pitching to finally arrive just as those two talents start to decline.

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Nov 19, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not shocking:

Dustin Pedroia (2008)
118 Runs, 213 hits, 54 doubles, 17 HRs, 83 RBIs, 322 TBs, 326avg, 376OBP, 493Slug

Mike Young (2005)
114 Runs, 221 hits, 40 doubles, 24 HRs, 91 RBIs, 343 TBs, 331avg, 385OBP, 513Slug

Mike finished 11th in MVP voting behind 4 Yankees and 2 Red Sox. This happens a lot, there is big market bias, because they are on TV all the time.

(I realize there differences between that situation and this one, but the point is that people shouldn’t be so surprised that EG would vote on spectacle rather than steady performance throughout the year… its nothing new)

by BuckyB on Nov 19, 2008 9:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's not about the Rangers

Look at the differences between Pedroia and Chase Utley this year.

Utley’s the superior player of the two by far. Way, way better D. Better bat. Utley just might be the very best player in baseball.

Pedroia won the AL MVP. Utley finished 14th in the NL! Sure the NL had Pujols playing like he always does that the AL did not have. But how can anyone explain the difference in their finishes in the voting. 13! slots different for the superior player.

by gr7070 on Nov 19, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Utley got royally screwed in that vote.

His placement on that vote is by far the biggest travesty of the voting this year. Who cares if Sabathia got more MVP votes than Lincecum. But Utley falling 12 spots below Ryan Howard when he’s probably twice as valuable a player on the same team? Total disgrace.

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

What a difference 3 years has made, both in MY’s production and in overall player numbers

"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"

by trident on Nov 19, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Neyer with a good quote

Regarding his preference for a catcher…

But for as long as I’ve been doing this, I’ve been told that I don’t see enough games, that I don’t know what it really takes to win, that I don’t appreciate the little things that don’t show up in the box scores.

And for as long as I’ve been doing this, every time the MVP voters have a choice between the guy with the power stats and the guy who does the little things, they pick the guy with the big numbers.

by gr7070 on Nov 19, 2008 10:10 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

mvp

i thought the mvp was meant for the mvp to your team as winning the alcs and going to ws.

by bullfighter20032000 on Nov 19, 2008 10:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Award voting...

…is done immediately after the regular season. Playoffs don’t matter.

Obama thinks he is a good talker, but he is often undisciplined when he speaks. He needs to understand that as President, his words will be scrutinized and will have impact whether he intends it or not. In this regard, President Bush is an excellent model; Obama should take a lesson from his example. -- John Hinderacker

by Lucas on Nov 19, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trade rumors of interest, besides Salty for Buchholz.

mlbtraderumors has posted a report that Houston may look to trim payroll by moving Wigginton (3B with a decent stick) and Valverde (pretty good closer).

Seems like the Rangers could be interested in one or both of those guys.

The Astros don’t seem to be the type to trade for prospects. Maybe in this case they would be interested to get prospects to send to San Diego for Peavy. Otherwise, they are on the hunt for starting pitching. Maybe Millwood is of interest to them?

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Nov 19, 2008 10:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Payroll

Why would they want Millwood if they are trying to trim payroll?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The article speculated they are trying to trim payroll so they can sign a starter.

It seems they really like Randy Wolf. It probably isn’t a possibility. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of interest from the Astros perspective of dealing with the Rangers. Still, if the Astros want Peavy, the Rangers have some prospects they could then offer for Peavy.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Nov 19, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Astros SHOULD trade for prospects...

… because they don’t have ANY! That is why they can’t get Peavy. They have nothing to trade.

I would be very interested in acquiring both Valverde AND Wigginton. Sign Valverde to a new deal and make him the closer while keeping Wigginton for one year and letting him hit free agency.

The Astros need bodies, so I would offer them quantity and reasonable but not overwhelming quality. Wouldn’t Byrd be better than Bourn in center? Start a deal with Byrd and Metcalf.
We would get a solid bullpen guy and nice 3B to bridge to Young at 3B in 2010.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Nov 19, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

DID YOU KNOW?

Ramon Ramirez was signed as a 15-year-old and released 2 years later by…your Texas Rangers.

He was an outfielder in his Rangers tenure.

So says this.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Nov 19, 2008 10:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gammons alluded to the Crisp trade on Monday

He said it allowed the Sox to move Masterson into the rotation.

Call me crazy but Salty+Byrd (they need a RH bat and an OF) for Buchholz seems like it would make sense. Probably just wishful thinking.

by LiamP on Nov 19, 2008 11:00 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I heard they were moving Masterson to closer

and moving Papelbon into the rotation.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Nov 19, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts on Buchholz...

Call me crazy, but I am really starting to think a Salty for Buchholz deal, straight up, could actually happen.

First, Salty is healthy and playing well in front of scouts in the Dominican winter league, and we have heard more than a few whispers that the Red Sox prefer Salty over any of our other catchers because of his offensive upside. It is documented that they have been after him since his days in Atlanta, and GMs are known to fixate and covet.

Second, I think Buchholz really gave the Red Sox org cause for pause last year. He is already 24 years old, the same age as Scott Olsen, and he was basically handed a rotation spot coming into the year, yet he couldn’t hold it down and he didn’t exactly dominate when he was returned to AAA. Many have asked why they would sell low on him, but I don’t think they would view trading him as selling low. Rather, I think their entire perspective on the matter may have changed, similar to how it did for the Rangers after Volquez struggled. The talent is unquestionable, but the intangibles, the confidence and make up issues (which are known to matter greatly to the Red Sox org) are questionable.

And finally, I really think the Red Sox mentality is that Masterson is a known asset and therefore has more value to them than Buchholz. They saw him start games effectively in his first swim through the league and then come up big in the playoffs as a reliever after Delcarman struggled. I think the Red Sox know they want one young pitcher to break in as a full time starter next year at the back end of their rotation and they prefer Masterson because they have more confidence in his ability to stick and stay than Buchholz. In this case, they may want the higher floor instead of the higher ceiling. For a team like the Red Sox, you don’t have to be as speculative (high risk, high reward) when you have so many sure things at the front end of the rotation.

I think it was their hope to trade Bowden and change to the Rangers for Salty, but JD balked, holding out for one of Masterson or Buchholz, and I think the Red Sox really do favor Masterson. I think they acquired Ramirez to be their late inning righty so they can move Masterson to the back of the rotation, leaving Buchholz as the odd man out.

by clark on Nov 19, 2008 11:33 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fair logic

Ultimately we won’t know if Buchholz is “untouchable” until the trade, if any, is made. I suspect that if Buchholz is acquirable, JD will get him. Really only Theo Epstein knows.

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree, the influence of Masterson on the situation is a big deal…he’s showing the GB tendencies and an effective K rate.

Gammons has said they want to get younger, which points to hanging onto the Buchholzes.

But this org sees its window as NOW. That points to aiming for a FA pitcher, maybe two if Lowe would accept a discount, and staying maximum-competitive probably three more years. They’re thin on veterans. Wakefield is still in their rotation.

They’ll do the same on the offensive side. This blog post sees Teixeira as the biggest determinant for their next moves: if he signs, they can sacrifice offense from C, eg, and thus pick up a Laird or the like.

No. Boston wants to go big at every position. They want Salty or Tea, and it might be they prefer Jarrod’s offensive upside. So, let the kid play in the Dominican, give the scouts enough to nod at, and this deal will wrap up soon.

I still think Buchholz is going to be a Ranger.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Nov 19, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A's owner calls for one game playoff

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3712578

I like that juxtaposed against Billy Beane complaining about how a 5 game playoff doesn’t prove who has the better team

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Nov 19, 2008 1:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

How about this for an utterly insane playoff structure. Division winners go to the playoffs as normal. The Wild card is determined the following way.

1. All teams that finish above .500 (82 wins or higher) move into the lightning round
2. Teams are ordered by increasing wins, (ties go to heads up, AL-only record, and then coin flip). Say 4 teams A (82), B (85), C (86), D (90)
3. Lowest ranked teams play one game to move on – highest of two teams has home field advantage. Winner moves on to play team ranked just above
<A @ B> → <A,B @ C> → <A,B,C @ D> —> winner gets Wild Card and moves into Wild Card round.

We get on average 3 VERY exciting elimination games at the end of the season, playoffs open up to more teams, but teams squeaking in get punished (must run table), whereas real wild card has a pretty significant advantage.

Yes, this is stupid. I made it up just now as I was typing. But it is a far better idea than the 1 game playoff into the LCS that the A’s owner called for.

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My plan

we roll al AL teams into one structure we’ll call a “League”, and do the same for the NL.

The team with the best record in the American “League” will play the team with the best record for the National “League”.

By the way, you kids get off my lawn.

Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.

"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky

by DJCahill on Nov 19, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I bet

you don’t like the designated hitter, and you’re angry that they lowered the mound in 1969, aren’t you. And where did the 4 man rotation go? And why don’t the Rangers bunt more!

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And

Quit picking on umpires. When they are right, they’re right. When they are wrong, they’re still right. It’s a tradition!

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Nov 19, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And what the hell is with these

glove things? Wimps.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 19, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nolan is here

Maybe the 4 man rotation is coming back!

Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.

"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky

by DJCahill on Nov 19, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is the Coco Crisp to Royals trade...

old news?

DSheppard Winner of the 2008 Game Day Thread Graphics Award

Gossamer 1st Runner Up

Honorable Mention:
TxStCa, Rodney, LSJ, Baseballs Girlfriend, CMKelly29, Ghtd36, Chase Irwin,
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by LAMuscleFag on Nov 19, 2008 2:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yessir.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Nov 19, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh ok..

I see it was official at 11:09 am CDT

DSheppard Winner of the 2008 Game Day Thread Graphics Award

Gossamer 1st Runner Up

Honorable Mention:
TxStCa, Rodney, LSJ, Baseballs Girlfriend, CMKelly29, Ghtd36, Chase Irwin,
Rangers85

by LAMuscleFag on Nov 19, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, old

in internet terms, anyway.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 19, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Howard is the first player. . .

. . . to lead his league in HRs, RBIs and make the playoffs without winning the MVP.

The writers are slowly getting better.

by philkid3 on Nov 19, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think Around the Horn is about to talk about EG.

They just teased with “the penalty for leaving the MVP off your MVP ballot.”

by philkid3 on Nov 19, 2008 4:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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