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Links to Mike Hindman's Prospect Previews

Just wanted a consolodation of the reports in a place they could get gotten to more easily...

10/16 - 11 Weeks of FFG (Prelude to Prospects Lists below) <A HRef="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/11-weeks-of-ffg.html">

10/28 - RH Starters 1-5 <A HRef="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/prospect-previews-rh-starters-15.html">

10/21 - RH Starters 6-10 <A HRef="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/prospect-previews-rh-starters-610.html">

10/17 - RH Starters 11-15 <A HRef="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/prospect-previews-rh-starters-1115.html">

11/16 - LH Starters 1-5 <A HRef="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/11/propsect-previews-lh-starters-15.html">

11/08 - LH Starters 6-10 <A HRef="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/11/post-1.html">

11/18 - Catchers <A HRef="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/11/prospect-previews-catchers.html">

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Thanks a lot

I’m giving you a rec. Mostly because this is the most useful post to go up in a while. I spent far too long on the DMN website trying to find a set of links like this. Thanks!

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

Nice to have something like that in one place.

Another compilation is at Baseball Digest Daily. Like last year they’re gradually posting prospect rankings for every team from various prognosticators. They don’t have any AL West stuff up yet, but they update it whenever a new list comes out:
http://tinyurl.com/6znh5o

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 19, 2008 1:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it just me

or does someone else think Poveda could be taken in the rule 5 draft? Why wouldn’t a team like SD, SEA or KC draft him and see what he has in ST?

From Hindman…

Poveda pounds the strike zone with an average (but improving) fastball that has increased in velocity over the past 18 months (up from high-80’s to 92ish, touching 94 on occasion), a fast-improving slider and one of the dirtiest changeups in the system.

Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.

by RangerMad on Nov 19, 2008 1:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When do we find out

who is going on the 40 and who we aren’t protecting for the draft?

"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"

by trident on Nov 19, 2008 1:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dec 5th?

That date is coming to mind for some reason

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 1:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think thats the date of the draft

tomorrow is the cutoff

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 2:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah thanks

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 2:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tyty

"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"

by trident on Nov 19, 2008 2:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I absolutely think he could be taken

It would have to be one with an already strong bullpen with at least a couple young guys with options already in it. For one Poveda would be used almost exclusively in mop up duty. And if your pen does get a bit overworked you need guys with options so you can switch guys out to the minors for fresh arms.

However if you had asked me this last year or the year before the answer would have been 100% protect him because our other pitching prospects are such huge unknowns. But this year after seeing Feliz, Hunter, Holland, Main, Beavan, Kiker, and others go out and pitch I could stomach losing a guy like poveda if it happened. I don’t want it to but if we did I wouldn’t be coming on here saying the FO needs to be fired.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 1:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think its better to leave him unprotected

In years past, the Rangers would do stuff like put him on the roster, then drop him off on June 4th because they need an emergency 5th starter and they just signed Dave Burba. Then he gets picked up in 5 minutes by some team with no depth and stashed on their 40 for the next two seasons

If you leave him off now, he has to remain on someone’s 25 all year – a much tougher threshold to pass. Keep him off.

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 2:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

If there was a chance of him contributing this year I would say give him the 40 spot but seeing as how, especially with the guys in front of him, it would take an incredible rash of serious injuries to even consider him I feel there is a better chance of us dropping him off the 40 before we use him this year

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 2:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are plenty of 5th starters already on the 40 man

Is losing Loe/Littleton/Mathis/Jennings that big of a deal to put Poveda on the 40 man? Starters that are on the 40 man as of now: Feldman, Gabbard, Harrison, Hunter, Hurley, McCarthy, Mendoza, Millwood, Nippert and Padilla. I think it’s worth it to take the chance on protecting Poveda, unless you think we’re going to need all 5 of those back-ups at once. Diamond and Rupe are also on the 40, not to mention that Poveda would be there too.

by hiafex on Nov 19, 2008 2:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry if my argument doesn't make sense

I don’t know anything about roster management.

by hiafex on Nov 19, 2008 2:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not arguing that I'd rather have Loe than Poveda

I’m just saying that there is no point in protecting a guy if you think there is a legitimate chance (say >50%) that you’ll have to drop him off the 40-man in the upcoming season. If he’s added as the 40th man on the roster, then you’re basically saying that he’ll be the first to be dropped (otherwise, Loe or Littleton or whoever is actually the last guy added, and the decision to add him is really moot)

Now, if you think there is a good chance the Rangers will make a trade that opens up some 40 man spots, then you should definitely protect him.

by JBImaknee on Nov 19, 2008 2:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would he have to be dropped though? Because of a trade?

I’m saying that he wouldn’t have to be dropped because of the SP depth on the 40.

by hiafex on Nov 19, 2008 3:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know how many starters we have used the last couple years?

Its alot more than 10

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 3:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many did we use last year? I can't find it

You get rid of Loe/Littleton/Mathis/Jennings/Catalanotto/Mendoza(if injured)/Gabbard(if injured) before you get rid of Poveda

by hiafex on Nov 19, 2008 3:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my thoughts to a T

how in the FUCK do you keep mendoza over him after the year mendoza had

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 4:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two words

Armando Galarraga

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 5:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

The reason we won’t get rid of Mendoza is because of the success, no matter how fluky, Galarraga had this year. He was DFAd with options remaining and Detroit snapped him up hoping to just stash him and see if he developed. You don’t release guys with potential if they have options left unless you absolutely have to.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 5:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What has Loe ever shown you

to keep him? He’s pitched in the majors for pieces of 5 years and its not like he’s ever been more than a 1.5 whip guy with underwhelming peripherals.

Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.

"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky

by DJCahill on Nov 20, 2008 7:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has somne value

I wouldn’t worry about losing him if we DFA him, but I’d risk Littleton before him.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Nov 20, 2008 10:05 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 on Littleton.

" He throws it where he wants it, his breaking ball kept getting better and better and of course God gave him that special arm. He's great." ~ Neftali Feliz on Derek Holland.

by Kinslerhomer on Nov 20, 2008 11:11 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

poveda > Loe/Littleton/Mathis in my eyes

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 4:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree

However you don’t dump Mathis just yet. He has 2 options left so you still have time to see if he figures it out.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 19, 2008 5:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they leave him off

I will begin a grassroots internet campaign to raise money so I can buy the Cubs before the draft then take him, trade him back to the Rangers for Whittleman and sell the team. My psyche can’t handle losing Poveda.

by bushe on Nov 19, 2008 2:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From Scott Lucas' over at Newberg Report...
50: Omar Poveda. The toughest decision, in my opinion, in terms of estimating the risk of him being swiped in the Rule 5 draft. Poveda just turned 22 and has yet to pitch in AA, not exactly a prime candidate for a Major League staff. On the other hand, he’s a legitimate prospect (albeit not in Texas’s top ten) and posted a 2.73 ERA and 24 strikeout rate in his last nine starts. A team that selected him in the Rule 5 draft would be doing so in the understanding that he’s essentially dead weight on the 2009 active roster. Texas could also leave him off the 40 and trade him before the Rule 5 draft, thus making the decision someone else’s problem.

My call: Vallejo, Mayberry, and Strop. We’ll see how that compares to Jamey’s 40-Man Roster Conundrum when his book drops.

Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.

by RangerMad on Nov 19, 2008 4:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks for doing this

"Never go with a hippie to a second location."

by jcAustin on Nov 19, 2008 2:01 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mjh

What are you doing next? I wanna see the relievers. I’m really curious as to where a guy like Strop and Beau Jones are when graded against their peers.

by Hull Fan on Nov 19, 2008 3:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here's my quick and ugly list:

Garr
Jones
Strop
Young
Roark
Mathis
Hyatt
Ballard
Tatusko
Honorable mentions: Schlect, Brader, Eppley, Tufts,

by Goyogringo on Nov 19, 2008 5:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lueke, Hamburger and Ortiz...

…belong on there somewhere

Obama thinks he is a good talker, but he is often undisciplined when he speaks. He needs to understand that as President, his words will be scrutinized and will have impact whether he intends it or not. In this regard, President Bush is an excellent model; Obama should take a lesson from his example. -- John Hinderacker

by Lucas on Nov 19, 2008 11:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ortiz

is #1 on my under 19, 5-7 and under list. Besides the ht hurdle he still has years to go. Hamburger put up mediocre stats in SS, is inexperienced, pitched vs mediocre college talent, and will pitch his first full-season lg at 22. He may get it up to 95 and be a potential closer down the road but that is a long road. Lueke has an impressive bb/so ratio but gave up too many hits, has a below ave go/ao ratio, and had a .292 BAA in the second half.

It is a tentative list after all…

by Goyogringo on Nov 20, 2008 3:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't Hamburger go to Clinton after the trade?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 20, 2008 6:55 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And 4 saves right?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 20, 2008 1:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 appearances

3 saves. Come on, folks, is it really hard to look this stuff up? :)

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 20, 2008 2:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Type "milb" in address bar,

hit control+enter (this move inserts the www & .com), wait 3 seconds, then type “hamburger helper” in the little player search box.

Yep, that eazy peazy :)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Nov 20, 2008 3:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

control+enter

Had no idea, thanks.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Nov 20, 2008 5:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You use Opera?

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Nov 20, 2008 6:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Firefox

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Nov 20, 2008 10:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

question

what does JN think in the newberg books 40 man roster conundrum?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Nov 19, 2008 4:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks to ya, eglooney

This is the one thing that sucked about MJH moving from his old site to the DMN – the DMN archives are even worse than those at MLBlogs. I’m bookmarking this diary for future reference… I’m hoping these links will work until next winter, though I think the DMN archive deletes stuff after it gets more than 6 months old or something…

"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL

by lonestarJon on Nov 19, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's called "covering their tracks"
I think the DMN archive deletes stuff after it gets more than 6 months old or something…

Bring up Matt West '09

by Chase Irwin on Nov 20, 2008 9:19 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I find it very difficult to access the prospect rankings on the DMN site so I really appreciate having the links bundled here.

by thedudeabides on Nov 20, 2008 2:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perhaps Mike could

link all of them when he publishes the final one.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 20, 2008 3:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll start linking to them daily since I'm pushing them all off the rec'd list with my selfish vanity exercise.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.

by thedirkatron on Nov 21, 2008 6:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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