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Another Ranger top 20 prospect list

Camden Report is doing top 20 prospect lists for each organization, and has the Ranger list up now...

Some things folks will agree with, some things folks won't (like Kasey Kiker not making the top 20), but I figured it is at least worth checking out...

 

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They used 2008 as pluses for some and then ignored 2008 for others. Cristian Santana and Fabio Castillo in the top 20? Wow.

by Andy Seiler on Nov 20, 2008 2:48 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My thoughts, too

Odd to have Mayberry and those two ahead of Kiker and some others.

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by t ball on Nov 20, 2008 2:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See, I told you Hurley would be top 10

but yeah, those rankings suck.

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by Gdawg on Nov 20, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why do they suck?

top 10 looks pretty good…only obvious omission is Main, but, looks good to me…

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by Longhorn on Nov 20, 2008 2:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The top 10 isn't too good

and the rest is worse. Its not the omissions in the top 10 that bug me as much as just the ranking of each player.

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by Gdawg on Nov 20, 2008 4:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

definitely

enjoyed the read, but yea, i think id have to say some of it was off from what alot of us think. Then again, its always nice to hear anothers opinion

by blalock84 on Nov 20, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Future RP - Blake Beaven

Wow…never seen that coming

Just a very weird list. Andrus at 2? Smoak 5? Main not in top 10?

Guess that just shows how stacked our minor league talent is

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by Smoak Some on Nov 20, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He does raise any interesting

question. Which minor league SP is likely to be switched to a reliever in order to reach (and help) the Ranger’s bullpen?

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by RangerMad on Nov 20, 2008 3:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a question I would love to be answered on this board

Who do we move from starter to bullpen?

First glance Diamond, Hunter, Feldman, Kiker, Font, Castillo, Phillips, and some others. Its a tough decision

In Smoak We Trust

by Smoak Some on Nov 20, 2008 3:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just think hes better suited for it

I mean, we overworked his arm last year, so there are concerned about how it could hold out. But then again, I’m only talking about the long run. I don’t put him in the bullpen now. Maybe here in like 2-3 years he’ll be better suited in there

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by Smoak Some on Nov 20, 2008 3:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And also...

I’m one of those guys that when you bring a pitcher up from the minors, it would be best to stick them in the bullpen (like what TB did with Price this year) and just get use to the majors. If it seems like that pitcher is better suited for the pen then as a starter, than leave him in there.

But then again, this is a good problem that we have

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by Smoak Some on Nov 20, 2008 3:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Prospect Knowledge

This goes to show you that people know mostly only about their own prospects. We all know who the major ones are outside of the Ranger organization, but we don’t have the expertise. That is why Mariner fans have Michael Saunders as a possible #1 organizational prospect, and I think he’s barely a top 5 for them.

by Andy Seiler on Nov 20, 2008 3:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. . .

. . . I was JUST responding to LSJ commenting that having Teagarden 4th or 5th and/or ahead of Max Ramirez is outrageous and how he thinks no one argues that he could be special.

Though my reasoning was largely that the people I’ve come to respect think such, and I actually don’t know anything about Camden Depot.

by philkid3 on Nov 20, 2008 3:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Number 3 Starter"...

I’ve never been a big fan of classifying starting pitchers using the 1-through-5 system. There’s really not much substance to it. I mean are there 30 pitchers in baseball who are “Number One” Pitchers? If not, should the bar be lowered? How much better is a “Number 3” over a “Number4?” What ERA correlates to a “Number 2?” How about WHIP? FIP?

And now that I’m reading so many prospect reports where some player is projected to be, or has the potential to be, a “Number 3” Starter, I’m left believing that a “Number 3” is just code for “I don’t want to look foolish if he turns out to be really good or really bad.” On this list, there was one player who projected as a “Number 1” (Neftali Feliz), one who projected as a “Number 2” (Derek Holland), six were projected “Number 3’s” (Martin Perez, Eric Hurley, Wilfredo Boscan, Neil Ramirez, Michael Main and Robbie Ross), and two whose future were likely as a “Number 4” (Joe Wieland and Fabio Castillo).

It seems that there should be just as many guys who project as “Number 2’s” as there are who project as “Number 3’s” in the league. Otherwise, a reassessment of the criteria used in the valuing what calibera pitcher is or can become. That is, if there were criteria in the first place.

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by YourNameHere on Nov 21, 2008 3:52 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice read, overall.

Good to see other’s POV on the Rangers prospects. I may not agree with the rankings, but perhaps we are too close to the sitchu to make totally rational judgments.

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by Rodney on Nov 21, 2008 10:05 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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