If you can get decent value, go for it. We can always use prospects. We aren’t going to compete this year anyway. Get pitchers, pitchers and more pitchers. Get so many that it becomes a problem. :)

I’m not sure that 3 years, 48 million is exactly going hard.

I’d deal one, preferably Millwood, but not both.

It’d be surprising seeing something happen before dealing catching for a pitcher.

can be of any help to the Rangers in helping eat some of the salary let me know. Well, what’s left of it that is…

I’d take the 40% whack if it got Millwood outta here.

If you could get prospects back or close to major league ready players I say trade both and go head first into the youth movement and let them learn on the fly.

I would be in favor of it. Neither of those guys will be Rangers in 2010, and if we’re not going to compete next year (which we’re not with our $65M payroll and the young pitchers not being ready yet), we might as well get them off the team (even for basically nothing) so that we can see who of McCarthy, Harrison, Hunter, Hurley, Nippert, Mendoza, Murray, and Feldman can contribute in 2010 and beyond.

In my view, both of these guys are like Sammy Sosa was 2 years ago…keeping us from being able to make decisions on players that may very well be worse yet are much cheaper.

I wouldn’t deal both. Not sure you want to overwork all the young pitchers that are likely to be starting games in ’09.

…because the only reasons to keep either of them around is we need an established veteran who will be dependable and someone to show the younger members of the staff what being a “front end” of the rotation pitcher is all about… but considering millwood has shown he isn’t a big fan of working out, though he’ll take the ball and pitch no matter whats wrong, and padilla prepares really well, but if he had a bad enchilada at lunch won’t take the mound, neither one of them has shown themselves to be dependable or leaders and i wouldn’t mind dumping them both and going with a 6 man starting rotation… considering one of the 6 is almost always going to be hurt anyway might as well call it that outta camp…

spin them off for anything that doesn’t involve us paying their salary this year…

and while you’re at it… let whoever is buying know we’ll throw michael young and his albatross of a contract in for FREE!

maybe the trainer meant Millwood will always take the ball when his labia isn’t hamburger meat. Milly tries to be tough and all, but when you’re an out of shape turd it makes it hard….either way, I’d rather not have Millwood around the boys on the rise.

for me would be to get rid of one of them for anything, somehow get rid of the cat, and use the extra payroll to sign sheets for 3/4 years ~16 mil per.

This is, however, probably a pipe dream.

I wouldn’t deal both, but rather I would treat it similar to the catching situation. Deal which ever one will bring back the most and hang onto the other. I wouldn’t deal both Millwood and Padilla (unless very overwhelmed). Dump the salary of one of them and go hard after Sheets, Wood, or both.

Beat those Cougs.

Considering the inevitable injuries and ineffectiveness that will open up plenty of chances.
Ill be displeased if we get rid of them purely as a salary dump getting fringe prospects in return and not using that payroll room.

Now if we get rid of them to be able to afford a realistic sheets offer and actually make it, ok.

would you do it. perhaps one of the young guys this guy has listed in the 10-15 range. Heilman is coming off a down year but he has historically been a very solid pitcher and he has two more arbitration years left, so we are talking about a pretty significant cost savings. If we can parlay any cost savings from this deal into extra money for a guy like Sheets, then I am all for it.

First, I just don’t get this ridiculous dislike for Millwood. I’m totally with dirkatron on this. If you look beyond ERA, he has been a decent pitcher according to tRA, DIPS, FIP, etc. He is a mediocre, #3ish starter and he is getting paid at the going rate for such a player.

On the other hand, Padilla might have a higher perceived value because of his high win total and reasonable ERA last season. But his FIP was a full run higher than Millwood last season. He also had inferior tRA and tRA+ numbers. He is, quite frankly, the inferior pitcher. But, because of luck and defense, it is possible that Padila might be valued equally or even greater than Millwood. If the Rangers can get similar returns for either pitcher, they should definitely try to deal Padilla before they deal Millwood.

And if they plan on adding a pitcher via trading a catcher/outfielder, dealing Padilla might make sense to open up payroll room, allow more flexibility to pursue FAs and leave three rotations spots for young pitchers.

because before the midseason deadline JD will think we might be in it and will hold onto them…

does anyone here remember the end of the 07 season. we couldn’t have given him away…and most here were saying to just cut him…padilla is never ever consistent. better than millwood this year yes. but very very avg. remember 07…remember 07 remember 07… i take milly over him anyway..but wouldn’t be upset to see both go for ready pitching prospects.

to show whether the contract year phenomenon actually exists or not? Because with both of these kids basically in walk years, I’d think it’d make sense to hold onto them until July.

that could be interested here:

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/25801

I would love for these three teams to miss out on the FA pitchers they are targeting and get into a bidding war for the likes of Millwood/Padilla. I doubt it would happen, but if more than one team comes after either of them hard it can only help JD and the Rangers.