LSB Community Prospect Project: #7
by thedirkatron
on Nov 24, 2008 7:27 AM CST
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6 down, a lot more to go.
After 245 votes, Taylor Teagarden has won the right to be called the LSB Community #6 prospect!
Over 50% of the votes for the winner yet again. Seriously, one of these is gonna be close one of these days. I swear!
The list so far:
1. LHP, Derek Holland.
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
3. 1b, Justin Smoak
4. RHP, Michael Main
5. SS, Elvis Andrus
6. C, Taylor Teagarden
Time to move on to the next vote.
The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.
And please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.
NOTE: There has been some speculation as to what the criteria are for this vote. Should guys who have spent time in the bigs be involved in "prospect" discussions? For the sake of this exercise we're taking what the guys have done in the big leagues and using the BA prospect formula of 130 AB's or 50 ip. If a guy is under those limits, he's still a prospect and he goes on the poll. It's that simple.
Resources:
- MJH's prospect previews for the DMN Blog:
10/16 - 11 Weeks of FFG (Prelude to Prospects Lists below)
10/28 - RH Starters 1-5
10/21 - RH Starters 6-10
10/17 - RH Starters 11-15
11/16 - LH Starters 1-5
11/08 - LH Starters 6-10
11/18 - Catchers
Jason Parks and Joey Matschulat's Top 25 listt from their excellent Rangers' site, BBTiA.com.
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My fourth straight Max vote.
He’s gonna get lucky this time.
I can FEEL it in my man-bones.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 7:32 AM CST
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we agree!
In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.
by tricer on
Nov 24, 2008 7:37 AM CST
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clarification
We agree that Max is past due on this list.
Didn’t want anyone to think that I can feel dirk’s man-bones, cause I can’t.
In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.
by tricer on
Nov 24, 2008 7:38 AM CST
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At least not yet you can't.
But one of these days we’ll meet up at some sort of Newberg/LSB event and I figure it’ll go something like this:
1. Get really drunk.
2. Fist fight in the parking lot over Kevin Millwood.
3. Hug it out twenty minutes later over Max Ramirez.
4. Head back to the hotel bar for a night cap and just see where the night takes us…
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 8:00 AM CST
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do ya think we would have time
to talk about what a pussy McCarthy has become into the conversation? Like maybe between #3 and #4? Or would that spoil the evening?
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by tricer on
Nov 24, 2008 8:58 AM CST
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Hmm... that seems like the kind of thing best left for pillow talk, but if it happened on the walk back in from the parking lot between 3 and 4 that'd be okay by me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 9:44 AM CST
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Max, then Perez
for me, though on some days I feel I could rank Perez and Beltre ahead of the catcher duo.
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by t ball on
Nov 24, 2008 7:41 AM CST
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question
i think, after ramirez in the #7 spot, that perez, borbon, boscon, and beavan should follow in some order. so which one doesn’t deserve a top ten spot?
by clark on
Nov 24, 2008 7:42 AM CST
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#10
Its gonna be very interesting once we get past #9. I think Max, Perez, and Borbon will be 7-9. Ten is where it gets real interesting. Hurley, Boscan, Beltre, Beavan, NeRa, Font, Kiker could all be in the mix.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Nov 24, 2008 10:43 AM CST
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for me the more interesting choices
are between Wieland, boscan ocampo font Ross who I have 19-23 respectively.
by Goyogringo on
Nov 24, 2008 10:53 AM CST
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He would be
in many other team’s systems.
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by t ball on
Nov 24, 2008 11:51 AM CST
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Yah, his ratios were legit as hell this year.
k/9: 9.09
bb/9: 1.43
k/bb: 6.36
TheDirkatron Says: Legit as hell.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 11:59 AM CST
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would you do
boscan/salty for buchholtz?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on
Nov 24, 2008 12:02 PM CST
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Yah.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 12:05 PM CST
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its just the one i see us somewhat likely to do
well two players i seee who could be involved
and i like boscan a lot
but i see no reason not to do that
boscan/teagarden or boscan/salty in a HEARTBEAT
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on
Nov 24, 2008 12:12 PM CST
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I don't think the Sawx would be at all interested in something like that.
Buchholz is a pipe dream, imo.
He’s the kind of pitching prospect where if they’re thinking of dealing him I would have to take a real good look at his medicals cause if he’s right I just don’t see how they deal him right now.
Cause yah Catcher + Boscan for Buchholz is a “Great. Yes. Where do I sign?” type of offer.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 12:22 PM CST
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yea i agree as well
i dont think they trade him at ALL
i just think that if we do trade w/ boston i wouldnt be at all suprised to see boscan involved – seems like the kidn of guy that they would value/we dont know how much the rangers value him
(anyone have any aidar/anyone quotes about boscan?)
i just do not see them trading buchholtz at all…but i can hope, right?right?righ?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on
Nov 24, 2008 12:31 PM CST
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Well imo...
Hurley > Boscon and Beavan, and Beltre should be up there with Perez and Borbon.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on
Nov 24, 2008 5:15 PM CST
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Has anyone else noticed how quickly our position player prospects drop off?
I never have any problems coming up with new pitchers to add to the poll, but the good hitting prospects are getting hard to come by. After this next wave of Engel, Borbon and Max, you could make a case that there’s not another position player worthy of a spot until the mid-twenties.
Vallejo, Moreland, Golson and Lemon all have their strengths, but it’s not any of them is a threat to break into the top 10. And after them you’re looking at a real serious downgrade to guys like Clark Murphy, Cristian Santana, Matt West, Johnny Whittleman, Tomas Telis, Esdras Abreu, etc… Guys with serious holes in their prospect resume.
Am I missing someone? Who are the next wave of position prospects y’all think should be added?
Actually as I’m writing this I just realized Joaquin Arias is still eligible. I thought I remembered him breaking 130 ab’s, but he’s at 121. I’ll add him next.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 7:54 AM CST
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Hay Dirk, is Mad-Dog still eligble?
" He throws it where he wants it, his breaking ball kept getting better and better and of course God gave him that special arm. He's great." ~ Neftali Feliz on Derek Holland.
by Kinslerhomer on
Nov 24, 2008 8:03 AM CST
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That's a good question.
I think he’s been in the majors too many days to be considered a rookie (meaning: I believe he spent 45 days on the Rangers’ active roster during the 25-player limit period), but I’m pretty sure the BA rules only look at IP (36.0) and so deem him still eligible.
I dunno.
What do y’all think?
Should I look at service time or just IP/AB’s?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 8:13 AM CST
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I'd just look at IP/AB
For our purposes it doesn’t seem right to discount a player because he was on the roster but wasn’t used for whatever reason.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Nov 24, 2008 8:16 AM CST
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and that's always a problem with the Rangers
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Nov 24, 2008 8:23 AM CST
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and that’s always a problem with theRangersRon Washington
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on
Nov 24, 2008 11:06 AM CST
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+1
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on
Nov 24, 2008 11:09 AM CST
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Remember Fabio Castro?
Buckles would have thrown a position player out on the mound rather than Fabio.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 11:10 AM CST
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yep
That was when we had absolute crap going for our bullpen outside of Aki and we had already had Castro on the roster for a while.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Nov 24, 2008 11:19 AM CST
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who else did buck do that to though?
with ron its a consistant thing
i have zero doubt that he will mess any possible situation regarding split PT up……………..ESPECIALLY at catcher
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on
Nov 24, 2008 11:20 AM CST
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If you were under the age of 27
and didn’t have at least 5 o clock shadow, Buck wouldn’t want to play you.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Nov 24, 2008 11:47 AM CST
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Yah, okay.
I’m fine with that. Though it’s more of a relief pitcher thing than an unused thing in Mad Dog’s case. It always feels odd voting for a reliever who was up for 3 or 4 months but didn’t get to 50 IP, but since we’re gonna be comping our list with BA and that’s how they do it so I’m okay with it as long as others are as well.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 8:28 AM CST
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That's true
Let majority rule I guess
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Nov 24, 2008 10:22 AM CST
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Lest you forget
That our lists shape BA’s lists.
This site is a major resource.
Bring up Matt West '09
by Chase Irwin on
Nov 24, 2008 5:47 PM CST
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That makes sense, though
you have guys like Salty, Max, TT, Davis, Boggs, Murphy and Duran all graduated or near graduation. In terms of young, talented position players the org is in very good shape.
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by t ball on
Nov 24, 2008 8:12 AM CST
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Yes
the level of talent of the position players only looks thin on paper as some of the best have gradumacated.
by Goyogringo on
Nov 24, 2008 10:58 AM CST
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Who was the very young Dominican outfield prospect? The former infielder who’s doing scouting, whose name also deserts me, he had high praise for the kid.
Juan something?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on
Nov 24, 2008 8:28 AM CST
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I can't look at that name
without think of Enrico Polazzo for some reason, from Naked Gun.
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by t ball on
Nov 24, 2008 10:05 AM CST
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Excuse me...
…is this a regulation bat?
Physician: Primum non nocere
Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on
Nov 24, 2008 11:06 AM CST
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and Jayce Tingler for the second name that deserted you
In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.
by tricer on
Nov 24, 2008 9:30 AM CST
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THANK YOU.
I was coming up with Tinsley.
Clarice is burned in too deep…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on
Nov 24, 2008 9:36 AM CST
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I don't have clark as high as some apparently
he has some major flaws in his swing.
I am high on Tracy (where I wasnt before) and Bianucci (also has some major flaws in swing) Santos Pina and Osuna. I think I am in the minority when it comes to still liking Ben Harrison (who is tearing up AFL and could get drafted in the rule 5) and Tim Smith. Arias would be top 30 if he was healthy but I am not counting on that.
by Goyogringo on
Nov 24, 2008 11:02 AM CST
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After that it is just a collection of potential:
Fry, bolden, Butler, Guinn, Paisano, …and…and….?
by Goyogringo on
Nov 24, 2008 11:04 AM CST
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Major flaws?
Nah. His swing is still a work in progress, but it’s not as flawed as you are suggesting. He definitely needs to work on staying closed, but his swing itself is pretty decent. He has good bat plane and strong/quick wrists that produce plus power potential.
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Nov 24, 2008 11:16 AM CST
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Clark
What are the big weaknesses in his game? Obviously the sample size is quite small, but I’m wondering if anything’s been identified.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on
Nov 24, 2008 11:05 AM CST
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JParks is right
Re-reading BA’s draft profile, Clark’s issues arent as serious as I remembered:
“tends to open up too early in his swing, spinning off the ball” ; “has a habit of blocking his hands and getting them almost locked beyond the front edge of the plate”.
Baseball intellect piece:
"He looks to take an aggressive hack at the ball and it appears, should he make contact, it would be after he let it travel deep into his hitting zone. All this lends itself to solid power.
The tendency for him to swing and miss could be from a number of issues. It often appeared he was too far out in front, meaning he was possibly fooled on some sort of breaking pitch. "
He hit for a nice ave in AZL but his HR #s were low continuing a trend from his (presumably injury-related) disappointing SR yr.
The flaws do seem easily corectible and his his high batting ave and low hr totals in AZL may indeed indicate that he was concentrating on correcting his deficiencies.
by Goyogringo on
Nov 24, 2008 11:25 AM CST
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Maximus
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on
Nov 24, 2008 8:14 AM CST
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Okay, it took a few gameday threads
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on
Nov 24, 2008 8:30 AM CST
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I didn't participate in the GDT threads last season
but you guys were up to quite the good I see. That is an excellent graphic.
In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.
by tricer on
Nov 24, 2008 8:52 AM CST
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Credit goes to Gdawg1
Just in case there’s anyone who didn’t click the link. I can only wish I had photoshop skills like that.
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on
Nov 24, 2008 8:57 AM CST
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Is that
a young Marlon Brando playing Max?
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by t ball on
Nov 24, 2008 10:06 AM CST
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wow
i hadnt really thought about the resemblance til now… Its pretty amazing that a baseball player from venezuela could look so much like Brando.
by blalock84 on
Nov 24, 2008 12:47 PM CST
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"I coulda been a catcher,
I coulda been somebody"…
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by t ball on
Nov 24, 2008 2:04 PM CST
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I can see him stuffing
cotton balls into his cheeks as I type.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on
Nov 24, 2008 2:13 PM CST
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Went with Perez again
Although I had Max here at 7 TT kinda screwed things up.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Nov 24, 2008 8:31 AM CST
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same here
max-perez-TT is how i had it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on
Nov 24, 2008 11:07 AM CST
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Max for me.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on
Nov 24, 2008 8:35 AM CST
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Max
Physician: Primum non nocere
Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on
Nov 24, 2008 8:54 AM CST
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For the third straight (and hopefully final) time
Max for me.
by JimBonnick84 on
Nov 24, 2008 9:09 AM CST
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Just to be a thorn
I went with Martin Perez
"You taste like a burger. I don't like you anymore."
by Prognosis Negative on
Nov 24, 2008 9:18 AM CST
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Max!
and no offense intended as I love the community prospect list and dirk does a great job with it, but do we really need to be rec’ing a daily poll and thus pretty much wiping out every other topic on the rec list even though by the time its off the main list the poll is done anyway?
although it hasnt been a problem at all so far since there hasnt been a lot of baseball to discuss, just saying.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Nov 24, 2008 9:31 AM CST
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Possible solution
Perhaps we could get those that rec these to unrec them once we’re finished, thus dropping them back off the list.
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on
Nov 24, 2008 9:33 AM CST
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Well with the amount of b.s. fanposts that get posted on here we probably should be recing these polls
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Nov 24, 2008 9:51 AM CST
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Murphy and Vallejo?
Are people seriously voting for these guys or was it a mistake like you hit the scroll on your mouse by accident?
The people who voted for them care to give an explanation on why they did so?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Nov 24, 2008 9:52 AM CST
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Pitching, pitching, pitching
Perez for me. Love Max and can’t wait to see him tearing it up in Arlington but a Johan comp for Perez is too much to look past for this dimwitted fan.
by bioaggie on
Nov 24, 2008 11:12 AM CST
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how about
A Mike Piazza comp for Max or a Ken Griffey Jr comp for Beltre or a Carl Yastrzemski comp for Borbon. Anyone can throw out any name they like for “comps” then it will float around for a while and probably shouldn’t have been noted by anyone but it is much easier for a reader to visualize even if it is a less accurate picture. How someone who hasn’t touched full season ball is getting votes over a guy who has OPSed in the quads in AA is beyond me.
by bushe on
Nov 24, 2008 11:23 AM CST
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Maybe
because some people genuinely believe him to be a better prospect.
by Michael Cave on
Nov 24, 2008 12:38 PM CST
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Perez
Yes, hes just that dude
In Smoak We Trust
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Nov 24, 2008 11:35 AM CST
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Strop
I just read BA’s profile on him and he has 3 plus swing-and -miss pitches (fb 93-96, slider, splitter), which, in my book, would rank him as the #1 closer prospect in the system. Even though he is injured, and thus unlikely to be taken in the Rule 5, I can’t understand why Bannister was chosen over him for the 40. He was thought likely to make it to the majors last year before his injury…
by Goyogringo on
Nov 24, 2008 11:39 AM CST
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A vote for Martin Perez
is a vote for a promising17 yr old lefty with three plus pitches.
Martin Perez for Prospect #7, 2008
(this add paid for by friends of Martin Perez)
“I am Martin Perez and I approve of this message” – Martin Perez
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
by Haeger Champ on
Nov 24, 2008 12:39 PM CST
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Perez for me too...
I go Feliz, Holland, Main, Perez at the top 4. Out of those 4 we oughta find 2 or 3 real quality pitchers to solidify our rotation who badly needs it. Perez is the furthest away, but probably has the highest ceiling but I think he is still in that category of pitchers. Smoak is close to that level but give me the potential ace over the probable all star firstbasemen…
by rangerjake on
Nov 24, 2008 6:46 PM CST
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That may be the case...
but Smoak is probably the surest thing this organization has. Smoak is Teix all over again. I really see little chance of him not being an all star 1B.
There is a better chance of Feliz, Holland, Main, or Perez not turning out to be as good as we all hope they will be.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on
Nov 24, 2008 6:54 PM CST
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huh?
Perez is the furthest away, but probably has the highest ceiling
Its like as soon as people get to AA they no longer posses any “ceiling”. I don’t see anything Perez could do that Holland, Main, or Feliz are incapable of. Say what it is “I don’t know as much about Perez so he could be awesome” or “I don’t really have a reason but I like Perez”. I think Perez and Main have brainwashed people or something.
by bushe on
Nov 24, 2008 9:07 PM CST
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Kinda agree
I figure the dirkapoll next summer will either see some adjustment or confirmation on the Main/Perez front. There’s no reason, though, not to at least consider there’s some positive reality behind the multi-source hype.
by shroomer on
Nov 24, 2008 9:49 PM CST
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3 plus pitches at 17...
I think he has the potential to be the best pitcher in baseball if the stones fall just right. The guys at AA have matured a lot more and therefore don’t have as much to improve. Perez already has an impressive arsenal and is so young I think that makes his ceiling a little bit higher than the 20 year olds. I’m not knocking the other 3…I had them ranked above him, I just don’t see as big of a drop off between him and the other 3 like this poll has indicated, partially because he is the youngest.
by rangerjake on
Nov 25, 2008 1:17 AM CST
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Oh and this from Hindman's prospect previews...
I asked Jon Daniels if he had to choose between Derek Holland and Perez, he couldn’t bring himself to make that call, though he suggested that Perez probably has the biggest upside of any pitcher in the system.
So yeah, if Holland is #1, Perez shouldn’t be 7 spots behind him, IMO.
by rangerjake on
Nov 25, 2008 2:16 AM CST
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Ok, but
I think there is less separating #1-#7 in the Rangers system than perhaps any other system in baseball right now.
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by t ball on
Nov 25, 2008 5:40 AM CST
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Its not all about ceiling
Beltre and Perez combined have the highest ceiling in the system, but they aren’t 1/2 in the rankings.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on
Nov 25, 2008 8:54 AM CST
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Vallejo getting some love
3 votes? I’d like to see one of your explainations.
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by TheBZA on
Nov 24, 2008 5:10 PM CST
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Jamey Newberg has three accounts?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 8:46 PM CST
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I saw video of him
practicing jump throws in instructs. We may as well enshrine him.
by bushe on
Nov 24, 2008 9:08 PM CST
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Now, now
Jamey ranked him 18th last month at mlb.com
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by Lucas on
Nov 24, 2008 9:10 PM CST
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And now I'm debating whether to tell Tron...
….where I ranked Lemon.
by Jamey Newberg on
Nov 24, 2008 9:19 PM CST
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You ranked him?
I thought you only went to 72?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 9:26 PM CST
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That's not a real ranking, cheater.
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
by NoNameOnCard on
Nov 24, 2008 11:40 PM CST
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I dunno, I haven't gone down that far.
Low to mid-20’s I’d guess.
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by thedirkatron on
Nov 24, 2008 9:52 PM CST
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"I dunno, I haven't gone down that far"???
Ouch, what happened to the Lemon love? Not enough left to go around after the Jeter/M-Ram love?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Nov 25, 2008 12:08 AM CST
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I still love the guy and think he has a good shot to be an above average 2b with good OBP skills and decent pop.
I heart him real hard and I’m rooting for him more than probably anyone else in our system, but I try to rank guys honestly and we have so many high ceiling guys in this system (particularly arms) that it’s hard for me to make a case for him before the late teens/early twenties.
But I’ve only gone as far as my top ten right now, so I really don’t know. He might sneak into the mid-late teens for me.
I think the moral of this story might be that I take my prospect rankings way too seriously.
But, hey… That kind of thing is really fun to me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Nov 25, 2008 1:09 AM CST
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