Wednesday a.m. things
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 5, 2008 9:28 AM CST
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Evan Grant reports that the Rangers will have a group of young pitchers report this week for the team's first ever "conditioning camp." Grant also notes that the Rangers have interest in Boston's Michael Bowden and Clay Buchholz, and are having Jose Vallejo play some shortstop in winter ball.
Grant also has some blog notes up, in which he mentions that the Marlins probably have more attractive Scott Olsen offers than what the Rangers are willing to deal to land him.
The Miami Herald says the Marlins are interested in Max Ramirez.
Jeff Wilson has some Rangers notes up as well, saying that Milton Bradley's agent will meet with the Rangers this week, but that Bradley is expected to test the free agent market and see what is out there. Wilson also has a few notes on Jim Colburn going to Japan to look at the free agents who are available over there.
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Wasn't Colburn
the bullpen coach at the end of the season, not the pitching coach?
Or am I crazy?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 5, 2008 9:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rich Hill’s lost 2008 season killed his trade value. He’ll be out of options next spring
by tyd3311 on Nov 5, 2008 9:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
get him!
"Calmer than you are... "
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 5, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Olsen for Max
Do you?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 5, 2008 9:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Do I
Commit suicide?
Yes.
"[Tim McCarver and Joe Buck] are the Gabe Gross and Ben Broussard of the broadcasting booth." - dirkatron
by lonestarJon on Nov 5, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 5, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I would not because I think that MaxRam has the potential to be an Edgar Martinez type of bat.
2010 Rangers = 2008 Rays?
by booyahcaveman on Nov 5, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me?
Probably not.
However, it depends in part on how good you think Max’s bat really will be at the major league level.
I have my doubts that he’ll be a legit, dominating type #4 hitter.
If that’s what he turns out to be, well then, he’s worth a lot more than Scott Olsen.
However, if he ends up being a good hitter for a catcher, but his catching skills are poor, then what you are talking about is a decent DH who can catch in a pinch.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 5, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps I just haven't noticed it elsewhere,
But what are your feelings on Bowden?
by brettgardner on Nov 5, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I haven’t seen much to indicate he’s a big upgrade over the H’s or Feldman.
He seems to profile as a #3/#4 starter. We seem to have a bunch of guys who are ML-ready or near-ML-ready in that category.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 5, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yah
I like the unknown quantity Max represents more than the one Olsen does. Better to have a live bat with positional question marks than pitching health question marks.
I’d do Max for Andrew Miller though.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 5, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what is it about Max
that makes you question his bat?
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
by tricer on Nov 5, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's got to be the limited time spent
at the ML level…everything else WREAKS of success
"Calmer than you are... "
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 5, 2008 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear God No
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
by tricer on Nov 5, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Dirkatron
will be all over that.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Nov 5, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh dear god.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Olsen
I don’t really want him in trade for anyone. I really don’t like him and don’t think he’d succeed here.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Nov 5, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
I’d rather have Mary and Kate, at least they’re HOT and RICH. This Scott guy.. why bother?
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Wait a minute, what do you care about the Olsen twins?
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by t ball on Nov 5, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they're both adorable..
I’m a switchhitter for the right babes …. the billionaire part don’t hurt :)
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone
has a price…
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by t ball on Nov 5, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew they were secretly dudes!
I mean I just knew it!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the only thing with Scott
is that if his velocity does come back, you are getting a young, healthy, LH workhorse on the (relatively) cheap.
by clark on Nov 5, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Operative word in that sentence being "if"
by Joey Matschulat on Nov 5, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sure but that's how we're going to operate
is with “ifs” mostly…for instance, IF Ben Sheets or Rich Harden can stay healthy…we’re the best fit for them to take that risk, because we won’t get a healthy Sabathia to sign here…but a question mark? I think we can be in on that. And likewise with Buchholz or to a much lesser degree, a Scott Olsen. Catch them with a need on our end, and aim for several “if” candidates, so that if you get 3 in an offseason – say, we nab Olsen from Florida, Bailey from the Reds, or maybe Ian Snell from Pittsburgh, and an Oliver Perez in free agency, and one works out, OK. If two work out, we’ve got a steal.
With that said, I would NOT part with Salty for Olsen…these would have to be very smart acquisitions and I doubt we can get more than 2 of these sort of trades in this offseason and sign the free agent worth a shot.
"Calmer than you are... "
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 5, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and if his velocity comes back
you are still dealing with a nutcase.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 5, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh he's a nut job too?!?
I forgot about that detail…if you’re gonna have a psycho on the mound he better at least be able to break a pane of glass with his fastball…you know someone more like padzilla.
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been waiting
for that response. I assume just reading the trade had you balling up into the fetal position.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Nov 5, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It actually had me contemplating countless senseless acts of violence against the elderly
but, you know… Same difference.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
change Olsen
to Anibal Sanchez, and I’d do it
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
by hinduplaya on Nov 5, 2008 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who wouldn't?
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Nov 5, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Done.
But they probably wouldn’t take less than Salty.
And I’d do that, too.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 5, 2008 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure
if there aren’t teams out there who currently value Max above Salty. I would deal either Max or Salty for Miller so long as the team feels good about Miller’s future. He took quite a step back this year, it seemed.
by clark on Nov 5, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm one of 'em.
Max > Salty, imo.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
gagree
seems like they both aren’t that great on defense, but one seems to have more potential with the bat.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 5, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my trade values are all out of whack
but personally, I place the highest value on Max, by a large margin, then Teagarden, Salty, and Laird.
I’d MUCH rather trade Salty than Max, and I had been assuming that people around baseball would much rather have Max than Salty, but what do I know?
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
by tricer on Nov 5, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it is safe to say
that you are by far the biggest Max fan around here, and I think some people do not realize how big Max’s RH bat could be for the middle of our future lineups. Max would have been a much bigger deal last year had Davis not come up around the same time and stolen the show. Max and Hunter both, in my eyes, are being penalized for lackluster ML showings when their minor league seasons were incredible.
by clark on Nov 5, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MaxRam Comp...
Who would you say is the biggest MLB comp to MaxRam? This can include past catchers as well as current Major League catchers.
Craig Biggio? (joking)
by Heebs on Nov 5, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i am not good
at these sorts of things, but he has always been a a little over a .300/.400/.500 guy in the minors, so if he can do that in the big leagues and stay at catcher, then his value is through the roof. Even if he can’t, a right handed bat like that has a lot of value to the Rangers, even as a DH/Back up C.
by clark on Nov 5, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With the bat
I think he could have some seasons similar to another guy with the same last name.
I don't hate everything. In fact, I think LSB is just groovy.
by tricer on Nov 5, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Victor Martinez and Jorge Posada.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't penalize him
for lackluster ML showings, but I do look at his lack of a glove and playing position and penalize him a bit for that. I also look at his age and lack of experience above AA and hold that against him too. When you are talking about a guy who could be the total package in Salty and a guy who at least gives you great defense in Teagarden, I don’t know how you can put Ramirez above them in the catcher rankings.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 5, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 5, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Value...
TT > Max > Salty > Laird.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 5, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
more ambiguous Arias news
somehow he is now ready to make throws from shortstop? What am I missing here?
by Goyogringo on Nov 5, 2008 11:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
ummmm Elvis is about to NOT be in the house...perhaps
J D is pumping up the value by deeming him close to untouchable…but is anyone REALLY untouchable unless their name is Tim Lincecum?
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hope not
I would love to see Elvis reach his ceiling here and make that Atlanta trade look amazing, but with Vallejo around, Young and Kinsler locked up, and 1B guaranteed to someone, I wouldn’t be angry to see Andrus traded for some stud pitcher.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 5, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if Andrus and Salty
are packaged or traded separately for pitching, then I think that trade can still count as a win.
by clark on Nov 5, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BINGO
like J D would turn down a stud starting pitcher…hahaha that’s funny… he’d give his right..well you know what….for one.
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking that myself
Grant made him out to be untouchable this morning, and yet we also hear about Arias’ triumphant return to SS and that Vallejo will now be getting innings as a SS as well. I really like Andrus, but I have this horrible feeling that he will end up being the most overrated of our upper tier prospects in the long run.
by clark on Nov 5, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Strength and conditioning
Servais also said the Rangers would become the sixth organization in baseball to have full-time strength and conditioning coaches at every level of the organization.
I like this, seems smart.
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by t ball on Nov 5, 2008 11:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
it seems so obvious to me
I can’t understand why other teams aren’t doing it….
Many of these minor league guys represent significant investments in the Rangers future. Why wouldn’t you want them in the best shape possible?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 5, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’m actually rather amazed every single team in the league doesn’t have this.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 (1)
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 5, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1, so that's like +3 total
Baseball franchises are stupid. They look too much at maintaining their investment in some top draft picks/LA signings and hope that they get lucky on a few other guys. Why you wouldn’t do everything you can to make sure that these guys costing you nothing turn into great prospects and players.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 5, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
It might be the only prof. sport not to do so…
by Goyogringo on Nov 5, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
transaction update from BA
Texas Rangers
Signed: RHP Jose Diaz, RHP Adalberto Flores, RHP Alfredo Gonzalez, LHP A.J. Murray, C Kevin Richardson
I’m glad to see Murray will still be around. I also like the potential of Flores, who put up some nice #s as a closer in the lower minors save for his walks.
by Goyogringo on Nov 5, 2008 12:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I feel like a crack addict jonesing.
I’m embarrassed how winter leads me to compulsive refreshing of mlbtr, rangersblog, LSB, etc.
Scrounging around on the sidewalk snorting broken glass.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 5, 2008 3:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Scrounging around on the sidewalk snorting broken glass.
And look at me, I’m in tatters, yeah …
I’ve been battered, what does it matter.
Fixing a hole in the ocean
Trying to make a dove-tail joint-yeah.
I got a Gibson
Without a case
But I can’t get that even tanned look on my face.
Ill fitting clothes
I blend in the crowd,
Fingers so clumsy
Voice too loud.
Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
Smiling.
Merciless the magistrate turns ’round
Frowning.
Digging up the dead with a shovel and a pick
It’s a job, it’s a job
Bloody moon rising with a plague and a flood
Join the mob, join the mob.
by shroomer on Nov 5, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that might be the most disturbing video
I’ve seen in a while…
"Calmer than you are... "
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 5, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome!
That vid inspired an Absinte flashback. I haven’t had one of those in years!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 5, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: LSB ad
Does anybody else see anything wrong with this?
"Colt mccoy sucks, mack brown needs to be fired." - Longhorn
by DaheelzCM on Nov 5, 2008 4:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
where's the Fab part?
and you go from black to white too? That’s pretty amazing stuff!!
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"So when I order, can I have it sent anywhere I want? Like, say, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC?" -Sharky
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 5, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
sounds like something he’d say LOLOL ..the poor things in mourning today.
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 5, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Startlegram blogness
General manager Jon Daniels had nothing to report again, or at least he claimed he had nothing. He did not — did not — participate in the three-on-three hoops outing. So, no sprained ankle.
Here’s what he had to say nothing about, and some items others have mentioned:
He and his team of executives have met with an undisclosed number of teams about the availability of Rangers catchers. Inquiries have been made about all four. They’ve covered all possible scenarios: not trading any of them, trading one of them, trading two of them or signing a catcher and trading three of them.
Daniels has a better feel than he did two days ago about where the Rangers stand in possible trades and with free agents, but it’s still too early in the off-season to say anything definitively.
Ninety percent of the Rangers’ focus here has been on pitching. Among the other 10 percent is what to do at third base. That will depend on Hank Blalock, who is expected to speak with Daniels before Friday. That’s the deadline for the Rangers to exercise the club option. Blalock hasn’t told the Rangers that he can’t play third base, but it doesn’t seem likely that he can. Casey Blake might be too pricey to sign as a free agent, leaving Joe Crede and his bad back, lack of speed, high strikeouts, so-so average and .930 fielding percentage. Travis Metcalf could be the 2009 starter.
The Rangers reportedly are one of the teams who could be in play for free-agent reliever Brian Fuentes.
— Jeff Wilson
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 5, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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