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Cubs out of options with Hill?

Chicago Sun-Times reporting that Rich Hill's lost 2008 season killed his trade value.  He'll be out of options next spring.

I would be in favor of overpaying the Cubs to acquire Hill. If we could find a match it would be a risk worth taking. Just part of the turn over every rock to improve the club scenario.

Bring in Hochevar, Hill and Nippert and see what Maddux can do with them.

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Maybe we should

have a Winter Meetings thread that has all these rumors in one place?

just a thought…..

But, Hill is a guy I’d be interested — depends on the price though of course.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 5, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

Im a big supporter

of at least looking into this.

by octoberty on Nov 5, 2008 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

Hill

has continued to look ugly in winter ball. I have no idea what happened to him. I would say offer a year of Byrd for him, but we may actually be able to do better…

by clark on Nov 5, 2008 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

That actually sounds like a decent deal

Although I’d rather look into sending Byrd to Cincy for the Homer first…

A Lonestar in California

Just say no to Scott Olsen.

by LSJ on Nov 5, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Byrd

Byrd has more value in trade than Rich Hill right now

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 5, 2008 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

why?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 5, 2008 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not KOK, but

I would guess that the fact that Hill has actually put together a pretty good ML season (195 IP, 2.90 K/BB, 4.32 FIP in ’07) and Bailey has done nothing but get shelled at that level would have something to do with it.

Of course, Bailey’s also six years younger, has better raw stuff/upside, is under club control longer, is cheaper…

by Joey Matschulat on Nov 5, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I say yes.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Nov 5, 2008 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

No

Our rotation is likely to be:
Millwood, Padilla, Harrison, Hurley and McCarthy.

So, I would start Hill and Nippert down in OKC (nice AAA rotation with Holland likely there). At the trade deadline unload Millwood and Padilla and bring the best two at OKC.

Feldman would be spot starter/long man.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Nov 5, 2008 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

Hill and Nippert

They are both out of options. How do you propose to get them to AAA? Particularly Nippert, who can become a free agent even if he cleared waivers.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 5, 2008 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Penny

How about we give Penny (only 30 and from Oklahoma) a one year, $7 million deal? He would then have the same amount as he would have made with the Dodgers, and can be flipped or resigned if he is proven healthy.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Nov 5, 2008 4:27 PM CST reply actions  

yikes I didnt know how bad penny was this year

but yes penny on a make good contract would be another of the risks I wouldnt mind the rangers taking.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Nov 5, 2008 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Shoulder

I don’t trust Brad Penny’s shoulder. I’d even say I trusted Jason Jennings’ health more last offseason.

by Andy Seiler on Nov 5, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Hill

Check his ’08 stats, including winter ball…

And then look at his 2007 season. He is the ultimate buy low candidate.

by clark on Nov 5, 2008 5:24 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely yes

Maybe we can sucker them into trading Hill for Marlon Byrd…hehe. There’s 99.9% chance they turn it down but it’s worth asking.

I’m a big believer in the buy low-sell high theory. Billy Beane has been doing it for ages. So I do think guys like Hill are worth taking a chance on. And why I wouldn’t be opposed to trading Teagarden for a top pitching prospect. Injury or no injury, he still hit .225 and slugged < 400 at AAA last year.

by chrisR on Nov 5, 2008 5:40 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe...

I though I was crazy when I thought of this but here it goes anyway.

Rich Hill for Teagarden

how about Hill for Salty?

by chrisR on Nov 5, 2008 5:42 PM CST reply actions  

Scratch that

Cubs don’t need a catcher.

by chrisR on Nov 5, 2008 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

what they do need

is a right handed hitting bat in the OF, preferably one who can play all 3 positions.

by clark on Nov 5, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Hill

you are vastly overvaluing hill. i am not sure if you realize how much the wheels fell off for him this year. i would never trade one of our three young catchers for him.

by clark on Nov 5, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

how did we go

from proposing teagarden for bucholz or bowden to rich hill. thats ridiculous. you were crazy when you thought of it. and youre still crazy now for thinking its a good idea. jeezus christo.

by 6th street on Nov 6, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Hill...

I just don’t think he’s an upgrade over the 8 or 9 guys the Rangers already have that will battle for a spot in the rotation.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 5, 2008 7:15 PM CST reply actions  

OH MY GOSH, WE DONT NEED PITCHING.

just look at all of these prospects, its a guarantee they will all be aces

by Save us on Nov 5, 2008 9:14 PM CST reply actions  

so are you joe or luke

and hey, people on this blog don’t think we need pithing

by Save us on Nov 5, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

On the contrary

we need way more pithing.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 5, 2008 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

at least you know that

most people on here dont think we need pithing

by Save us on Nov 6, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

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