Thursday afternoon linkaliciousness
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 6, 2008 2:51 PM CST
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A lot of things out there to point you towards...
BP has the Internet Baseball Awards up...you can see the A.L. results here, and the N.L. results here. The Rangers had a decent showing in the MVP balloting, and had someone finish in the top 10 in the ROY balloting (although it wasn't David Murphy, so get your torches and pitchforks)...
Keith Law has a chat session up that is chock full of Rangers stuff...he loves him some Feliz, and says Martin Perez has more upside than Derek Holland, among other things.
Scott Boras -- agent for Oliver Perez -- has a packet he's circulating, calling Oliver Perez one of the five best lefty starters in the game. Rob Neyer examines that claim, and thinks that -- shockingly enough -- Boras is puffing a bit.
Over at THT, Victor Wang looks at what Jake Peavy's trade value really is.
David Pinto has the 2008 PMRs up for shortstops, with Michael Young grading out as slightly above average this year. I generally think that PMR and +/- are the best of the fielding metrics out there, mainly because they work off of individual play by play data that takes into account the type of ball that is in play.
Brian Sabean says Matt Cain is untouchable. Tim Lincecum and Brian Wilson are apparently also in that category.
Jim Callis also had a chat session this week...he has Feliz ahead of Porcello...
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Pfft
Screw David Pinto. The Gold Gloves have spoken and FFace is the best AL SS this year.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Nov 6, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The KLaw chat is a good read
He has MaxRam as his #2 catcher in the system (behind Tea). Which makes me think that MaxRam must have the highest variance across people’s opinions than any other Ranger prospect. Some people love him, others don’t seem to like him that much. That EG post saying he’s the one the rangers value least (I don’t buy that, I think its posturing).
by JBImaknee on Nov 6, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Grant did not say the Rangers value Ramirez the least
He said he was “the most available.”
by Joey Matschulat on Nov 6, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what is the difference?
So say you value MaxRam more than Laird. But to make MaxRam “more available” you’d have to offer him at a cheaper price?
I guess I can see a subtle abstract difference but practically I can’t see how such a difference would be implemented. I still think that the Rangers have Zero intention of trading MaxRam this winter, and for posturing/negotiation reasons its better to not have Laird be the most available.
by JBImaknee on Nov 6, 2008 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Callis
also picked Andrus over Triunfel, which I think most of us would agree with. Also this:
Fred (Dtown): Tell me something exciting about the Texas Rangers’ prospects. This depressed Rangers fan needs something to look forward to.
Jim Callis: The Rangers have the best farm system in baseball, including plenty of much-needed pitching. That should excite you.
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by t ball on Nov 6, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but,
what the hell did JD do after February 1, 2008 that was so spectacular?
LMAO
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 6, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I enjoy egging him on.
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by t ball on Nov 6, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He deserves all he gets.
I enjoy reading you poke him with a stick.
Thanks!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 6, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Poking rhythmically
is t ball’s forte.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 6, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scarborough Green!
WOW!
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 6, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
from callis
The Rangers have the best farm system in baseball,
yep.
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 6, 2008 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Callis
Believe that links to the second most recent session.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 6, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sickels
had this to say after observing Justin Smoak in Arizona..
Justin Smoak, 1B, Texas Rangers: He looked great too. Very mobile for his size, good swing with a slight but not extreme uppercut, excellent plate discipline. Teixeira-like outcome is quite possible.
by tyd3311 on Nov 6, 2008 3:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Young
hahaha…and ya’ll spent a lot of words in disgust of his defense…..all in vain.
by JackDublin on Nov 6, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Actually
pretty much 100% of what is said here is in vain.
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by t ball on Nov 6, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much 100% of living
is in vain.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 6, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?!
Russ (Vancouver): Kinsler or Utley over the next 3 years?
Keith Law: Utley.
Come on, is that even a question to ask?
While their bats were similar last year Utley has a proven track record of 130+ OPS and Kinsler is young with the slight chance to improve, so their bats are probably the similar projection-wise.
Utley’s defense is absurdly good; Kinsler won’t ever come close to that D value.
THerefore Utley >>> Kinsler
by gr7070 on Nov 6, 2008 5:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
flattering
that the question was even asked.
by clark on Nov 6, 2008 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your point?
Didn’t he answer the question how you like?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 6, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's complaining about the question
Pujols or Davis over the next 3 years?
Pujols
Salty or Mauer?
Mauer
Blalock or ARod?
Just because it was answered correctly doesn’t mean it isn’t annoying to see in there. I kind of laughed too when I saw it.
by JBImaknee on Nov 6, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler and Utley was a good question after this year
Before Kinsler went down with his injury he was getting MVP consideration. Look at boths career lines. At the age of 26 Utley had a very similar season to Kinslers this season, also at the age of 26. Both of their first two seasons in the majors was about average with Kinsler actually having higher OPS+ his first two years. Utley has gone on to have 4 great seasons. Utley will be 30 next year. Kinsler 27. The question was over the next 3 years who would you rather have. Not what have they done but what could they do. While typing this I have actually come closer to thinking I would rather have Kinsler over the next 3 years than Utley. Not saying Utley won’t be good but he is the more likely to decline simply due to age, although 32/33 isn’t exactly old.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 6, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
the defensive values are significantly different.
JBI is right … stupid question, regardless of the answer.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 6, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats to say Kinsler can't get better?
I doubt that Utley will but can Kinsler not? If the question was whos 2008 season would you take for the next 3 years then the answer is without question Utley due to defensive value.
But I think Kinslers defense will improve, not to Utleys level, but close enough that his offense will make it a difficult decision. Utleys will most likely decline and Kinslers should stay the same if not get better.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 6, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm of the opinion
that Kinsler will never be on the same level defensively as Utley.
Kinsler might be significantly above average, but not consistently dominant, like Utley.
Until then, meaning the next 3-4 years, Kinsler may be better or the same hitter, but inferior overall.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 6, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Utley *ML* MVP
Utley’s probably the absolute best player in all of baseball and he’s consistently been about that good for a couple years now.
There’s no sign of him regressing on O or D.
As good as Kinsler is its really not even close and with both of their defensive abilities accounted for it won’t be anywhere near close over the next 3 years.
by gr7070 on Nov 7, 2008 8:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just read Neyer on Perez
There ought to be a bounty on Boras (and I’m a Perez ’believer’). I think he’s a pretty good LHP who could do better still. But such outlandish crap, data manipulated by Boros to present him as a Johnson/Koufax potatio in waiting? Baloney (yeah, I’m old)
Ollie would be a nice pickup at about 9mm per, but even then only if he harnesses the K/BB dilemma, and gets consistent and back to his 2004 delivery. A pox on Boras.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Nov 7, 2008 1:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pax on the pox
He’s just doing his job and I can’t imagine there’s a GM in the game who doesn’t automatically include a “bullshit factor” whenever talking to Boras.
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by t ball on Nov 7, 2008 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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