Friday morning things
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2008 9:19 AM CST
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As you might have heard, Michael Young won the A.L. GG for shortstop yesterday, and Evan Grant has an article up on Young being named the best defensive shortstop in the A.L.
Jeff Wilson has an article on the economy's impact on the baseball world. Thusfar, he says, the impact isn't much...
Mike Hindman offers his take on the developing catching trade market situation.
Bleed Cubbie Blue says that word is now out that Mark Cuban won't be approved by MLB to own the Cubs.
Barry Horn's blog includes some discussion of Victor Rojas and Josh Lewin both being candidates for the Padres' TV gig.
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I hate Bleed Bubbie Blue so I don't want to read that link.
Can someone tell me why MLB wouldn’t want a charismatic billionaire with a ridiculous passion for sports owning one of their premier franchises?
Is it Cuban’s offer they don’ find appealing?
Or is it Cuban himself?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 9:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It is probably the fact...
…that he’s a giant tool.
But in a different way from guys like Reinsdorf and Selig.
Most of the owners are, like, hammers. Cuban is a crescent wrench variety of tool.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Selig
is a hardware store tool, Cuban is a “Not Sold in Stores!” tv infomercial tool.
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by t ball on Nov 7, 2008 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cuban
He’s the Pocket Fisherman.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2008 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you don't know...
take a look in the mirror
I kid, I kid…I love the guy for all he’s done for the Mavs and the city of Dallas…let’s face it, we wouldn’t have developed the north side of downtown as well if he weren’t the owner. And he helped make Dallas a place people want to play.
That said, he’s a bit brash, stubborn, and just has that scowl. I’d like to meet the guy, hang out with him a few times before passing judgment, but I can see why people would think it
"Calmer than you are... "
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 7, 2008 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But
He’s not bad for a league. I don’t think that his brashness should be a basis for denial.
by brettgardner on Nov 7, 2008 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree.
He’d annoy the shit out of me if he owned an NBA franchise other than the Mavs, but even the haters can’t really think he’d be bad for a league.
If I ran a sports league I’d be doing whatever I could to encourage guys like him to become owners.
But baseball has always been a good old boys club, and Cuban definitely doesn’t fit that mold. Which is a damn shame cause I think a Mark Cuban run Cubs franchise would be great for baseball.
You can bet Reinsdorf would never allow that, though.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cuban Rules
He is great for Dallas, great for the team, great for the leauge. Unfortunately, David Stern did not agree and decided to hand the Heat the 2006 finals via corrupt officiating. I am still so ultra bitter about that shit.
As evil and horrible as Bud Selig is, I do not think he is outwardly corrupt like Stern. And neither are MLB’s officials, despite some highly visible blown calls in recent years.
by FuturePants on Nov 7, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
certainly. but you asked why he's a tool
not why he shouldn’t be allowed to own a baseball team
"Calmer than you are... "
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 7, 2008 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Adam claimed that Cuban being a tool was the reason he shouldn’t be allowed to own a baseball team.
by brettgardner on Nov 7, 2008 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Cuban should focus...
his monies on a baseball team a little closer to home? And a lot cheaper.
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 7, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks
isn’t selling.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 7, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i know
but i can dream
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 7, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For the right price I imagine he would.
The bigger problem is that I don’t know why anyone would want to pay a premium price for a completely average franchise like the Rangers.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
Everyone has a price.
But it’s not “for sale.”
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 7, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How much can we pool?
It’ll be like Green Bay! We all get an equal vote on who the GM should be, and as a result, no change is ever made. Ok, less like Green Bay, more like the Atlanta Hawks.
by FuturePants on Nov 7, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Basic takeover
You see a big market, low payroll, talented farm system … you see the opportunity, you see a struggling franchise.
Why wouldn’t you try to swoop in (if you were that rich) and overwhelm Hicks with an offer?
DJCahill alone could significantly appreciate this franchise, imo, fwiw. Surely he wouldn’t cost much off of the scrap heap.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think this will ever be a "premier" franchise as longas their stadium is in Arlington.
I love the Stadium and have no problem with the city itself, but a nice new urban stadium in downtown Dallas with a retractable roof would be such a ridiculous boon for this team… and even then you’d still have to get the TV up in a Cowboys obsessed market, though consistent winning and good marketing, the Dallas Mavericks have shown, can help with that.
Baseball teams make their money off of regional TV and their stadiums.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nontraditional
The owners like people with deep pockets, but don’t have high regard for flashiness or johnny come lately. Cuban is both. He isn’t laid back, finance community, old money connected. He’s an internet geek who bilked a billion out of “nothing”. Looking back, ownership committees probably don’t want to go through another Bill Veeck era. My take on the ownership committee’s point of view.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Nov 7, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that we need anymore Peavy/Grink talk
but this article on fangraphs is a very good read for anyone still interested in talking about those two guys.
It’s a very good read and maybe the data will impress some of y’all Grink hataz out there.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Catchers
Mike’s take seems close. But I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking it’s worth it to kick in a little extra to get Buchholz. A catcher plus a pitcher not named Feliz, Holland, Main or Perez? I hope a decent trade happens soon, I’m tired of thinking and talking about it.
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by t ball on Nov 7, 2008 9:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on Tea for Buchh
I wonder how much the Sawx like Byrd.
Seems like with Crisp being superfluous and expensive they might consider Byrd a much better fit for them at a better price. TT + Byrd for Buchh + Crisp?
Or maybe they’d be interested in paying a chunk of Lowell’s salary and sending him our way just to be rid of him so they could move on Tex or use Lowrie, though I’m pretty sure there you’d have a no-trade to contend with.
There a so many options out there.
I’m with you.
I just want one freaking done. I wanna stop thinking about this.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd
To maximize his trade value you need to trade him to a team that can play him everyday so you can emphasize the draft pick compensation aspect. if he has another season like this one he will almost assuredly be some Type free agent. In Boston with Ellsbury, Bay, and Drew he would be a 4th OF who barely plays.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 7, 2008 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lowell
I’m not enthusiastic, but that would be an interesting expansion of the deal.
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by t ball on Nov 7, 2008 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is
if they go ahead and sign Teixeira and move Youkilis to 3B.
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by t ball on Nov 7, 2008 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teixeira
The fact Boston shouldn’t move Youkilis to 3B is just one reason they won’t sign Teixeira.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 7, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
He was supposedly pretty god there this year.
His bat plays much better there and can you imagine a lineup with Bay, Youk, Pedroia, Tex, Drew and Ortiz? Good freaking god.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
* Pretty "good"
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Youkilis
He turns 30 before ST. If anything he should move the other way across the diamond.
I’m just thinking he’s inexperienced (65 G in 3 years), and old to make a positional move that’s more demanding.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 7, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a natrual thridbaseman who only moved to facilitate Lowell
and it’s not like thirty is ancient. Supposedly he’d really like to be there full time as well so he’d be into it and wouldn’t mind putting in the extra work to get good there again. I can definitely see the upside.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty god as well...
as in the greek god of walks
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 7, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
He was Godly there. Dirk had it right.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
at least JD hasn't pulled the trigger just to pull a trigger
like Olsen for Salty
I bet we walk away interested in our pitching staff next year…maybe not convinced that it’s good, but somewhat satisfied and definitely curious
"Calmer than you are... "
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 7, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Florida, too
Olsen is universally regarded as bad. But they’re good arms require more than a catcher.
I hope we hear JD inquired seriously on Miller/Johnson/Volstad. Sanchez is not dreamy.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 7, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am the only one
that thinks Laird will be back next year if Salty gets traded? Below is the list of FA catchers. Who do you want backing up Teagarden? Who do you want to be the Rangers catcher if TT gets hurt or shows he is not ready? Ramirez?
Brad Ausmus (40)
Paul Bako (37)
Josh Bard (31)
Michael Barrett (32)
Gary Bennett (37)
Henry Blanco (37)
Johnny Estrada (33)
Sal Fasano (37)
Toby Hall (33)
Paul Lo Duca (37) – Type B
Adam Melhuse (37)
Chad Moeller (34)
Ivan Rodriguez (37) – Type B
David Ross (32)
Javier Valentin (33)
Jason Varitek (37) – Type A
Vance Wilson (36)
Gregg Zaun (38) – Type B
Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.
by RangerMad on Nov 7, 2008 9:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Laird
If hes back its as the starter.
As for a backup catcher I wouldn’t worry about if the starter gets injured because we should have a guy in AAA who is ready if that happens. So my criteria for backup catcher is a guy who knows his role and plays decent defense. I don’t know alot about those guys you listed but off the top of my head Melhuise and Toby Hall would be my choices.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 7, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Stewart always seems to be available
somewhere, somehow.
He plays great defense, but who cares about his offense …
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2008 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know who I'd want
just based on the ’Stache
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 7, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That. Is. Awesome.
Could we put a “Must keep the ’stache” provision in his contract? Cause I’d insist on writing one in if at all possible.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we could even say...
must extend the ’stache
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 7, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
/ horror
but wrecked.
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's like a mullet ...
for the front of his head.
by shroomer on Nov 7, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh,
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
The fact that he has the Juan Gonazelez circa-1994 greasy-curls mullet going on at the same time just makes it that much better.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 7, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man
EG amazes me sometimes. He goes as far as to drop John Dewan’s name when mentioning RZR – conveniently omitting the fact that the same guy has developed a newer, better system (plus/minus) which not only blows RZR out of the water, it blows up his entire point!
Evan may still be my overall favorite Ranger beatwriter (he sure beats the hell out of TR) but his Michael Young love is rivals my own infamous midseason Salty love.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 7, 2008 10:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lewin
If he’s offered that job he’d take it in a heartbeat.
I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.
by TheBZA on Nov 7, 2008 10:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Count me among those
that hopes he doesn’t leave. I think he balances out TAG and I like their combo.
Rojas? Take the job and run buddy…..
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 7, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Although I actually like the Rojas/Nadel pairing too.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 7, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
I like Lewin, but I would also like TAG/Rojas on the TV every game. Plus, that means all Nadel, all the time on the radio, which I also like.
by FuturePants on Nov 7, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That almost reads
“I would like to tag Rojas on the TV every game.”
by tyd3311 on Nov 7, 2008 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rojas is a handsome guy, I can't lie.
But maybe that should be left up to LAMuscleFag. I’ll stick with Dirkatron’s frequent choice of Jessica Alba. Loves me some Alba.
by FuturePants on Nov 7, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks but NO THANKS!!!
now if you see someone who looks like my good “friend” from San Diego by all means give him my number!
:)
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 7, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I totally will.
And, it would seem that I am not your type, either. All 6"1’, 175ish pounds of pure steel never works out that I’m rocking over here.
by FuturePants on Nov 7, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
6'1" and 175 is a good start..
nothing wrong with those stats.
The kid above who’s in the military is 5’11" 225… and quite beastly.
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 7, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m 6’2" and probably around 210, 215 and…I don’t look like that guy.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 7, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're lucky..
with your height you could be 225 or 230 easily…depending on your frame of course. I’m 5’11 210 .. I wish I was 6’2" …
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 7, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we hear it
for 6’4" and 223 (and getting rusty)?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Nov 7, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whhhhooooahhhh..
It’s Big Ed…….Don’t mess with him!!!
Do you exercise Ed?
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 7, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not enough
And I feel it. Was competitive for about 27 years, then have basically done nothing except walk and golf “since”. I’m lucky to keep the weight down and BMI reasonable. I couldn’t play “above the rim” any more after age 37, and not knowing better, attribute that to the old ‘my legs died’ bit.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Nov 7, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well at least you're..
walking and golfing..that’s exercise!
good for you!!
Steal Home R.I.P. 9/10/08
by LAMuscleFag on Nov 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really didnt like grieve/rojas on tv together
Particularly Rojas
Just wasnt right. Granted maybe they’d probably work better together doing it all year and such.
No problem at all with rojas on the radio though.
If one of lewin/rojas leaves Id rather it be Rojas just because I watch more than i listen and I like it as is.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Nov 7, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I want to lose Lewin
But he would be the perfect replacement for Matt Vasgersian. Save for the omission of “Santa Maria!” SD fans might not even know the difference.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 7, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not
I love the Lewin/TAG combo
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 7, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they really reached into the archives for the picture of MY on texasrangers.com
#42, woo.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Nov 7, 2008 11:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rangers in on Cordero
A week after becoming a free agent, former Nationals closer Chad Cordero is drawing interest from several Major League clubs. According to a baseball source, the Angels, Mets, Rangers and Tigers are interested and each team has asked to look at Cordero’s medical records.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. But in the mean time, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-8 baby!
by sprite on Nov 7, 2008 12:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Perfect
we can add him to the official, LSB-certified, Texas Rangers 2009 Pitchers’ Morgue
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good.
It’s worth checking into. Also, Basick said earlier he is good friends with him, and he is looking for 15mil over 3 years. Ehhh, wouldn’t be bad if he were deemed healthy, mebbe with some incentive clauses.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 7, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Gerald Wallace
Pro Basketball News is reporting that a trade of Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace is “imminent.”
Josh Howard for Wallace… would you?
by tyd3311 on Nov 7, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.
But he’s a bit like the Milton Bradley of the NBA. Extremely talented, but he just gets little sprains and pulls all the time. Over the last 4 years, he’s averaging about 65 games, which is not horrible, but compared to Howard’s 70, or Dirk’s 78.5, I’d just be scared to count on him as a significant piece too much going forward.
Plus, he’s not a very good shooter, which is already a problem for us with a better (though less efficient) shooter in Howard.
by brettgardner on Nov 7, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Obligatory Mavs question
Is Mike Miller available? Ever? Somehow? Yes?
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2008 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be available
I’d think, after the T’Wolves fall into their pool of suck.
by jonthefon on Nov 7, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
His big expiring contract is just what Minnesota needs.
by brettgardner on Nov 7, 2008 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lewin leaving
I would HATE. He loves it hear as well. kk.
Rojas I like but I wouldn’t mind him going since I don’t hear him as much since I usually watch on TV. He deserves the shot as well.
by Mike E on Nov 7, 2008 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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