Peavy trade update
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 8, 2008 6:01 PM CST
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Towers says he expects this to be resolved within the week.
I have to think that, at the end of the day, the Braves will be the team that ends up with Peavy. I think Towers playing chicken over Tommy Hanson, but at the end of the day, will accept Jordan Schafer, Yunel Escobar, and a non-Hanson pitching prospect or two.
The question then, I think, is what they are going to do with Adrian Gonzalez, given that they have a first base prospect knocking on the door, and given that, with the team seemingly going into strip-down-and-rebuild-mode, Gonzalez is the next significant veteran trading chip they could use to restock the farm.
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Phew, glad to see that the Angels aren’t in this group. I don’t think it would have been a good thing overall for them to get Peavy, given what they probably would have given.
On that topic, how in the world would the Cubs be able to make it worth SD’s while? I can’t imagine what Towers wants from them. I think it would be interesting to see whether the Braves would give Escobar. I think it is much more doubtful than suggested here. He is their franchise SS, and they really, really like him and have absolutely zero options to replace him. They have enough talent, imo, that they can make it worth SD’s while without either Escobar or Hanson more than the Dodgers or certainly the Cubs could.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 8, 2008 6:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If ATL didn't include Escobar or Hanson
What would the package be?
Kelly Johnson, Schafer and Teheran? Maybe Gorkys too?
by LiamP on Nov 8, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
something like that. I think that Atlanta values Escobar quite highly, and I wouldn’t be shocked if it came right down to it that they’d keep him instead of even a Heyward. He’s a critical player. Kelly Johnson isn’t so much, so I don’t know how SD views him, but every one of those players is more valuable than anyone the Cubs are supposedly offering. The Dodgers really don’t have much either, unless they’re willing to talk about pretty important MLB players (and maybe they are). LA is also in-division, which seems like it would suck a little for SD.
Teheran is obviously a very intriguing guy, along the lines of our breakout guys from this year, and Rohrbaugh and Delgado aren’t chopped liver. And that doesn’t even get you to Freeman/Flowers. They have a lot to offer.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 8, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wren has already made it clear that Heyward is untouchable.
I’d be shocked if they dealt him. I mean, he’s got the potential to be so freaking good.
I imagine they’re trying to figure out a way to do the deal without Escobar/Hanson/Heyward being in it, but I really doubt SD does it without one of those 3.
by LiamP on Nov 8, 2008 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless something else arises, SD would have to take an inferior deal to pass up what the Braves could offer even aside from those guys.
And they’ve made the same sort of comments about Escobar that they have Heyward.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 8, 2008 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize they said that about Escobar.
I thought it was just Hanson and Heyward that they said that about. My mistake.
by LiamP on Nov 8, 2008 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's said it just recently or in response to this deal
but it’s been their policy consistently with Escobar. Peavy is a big deal, and sometimes you trade guys you really don’t want to, so I’m not confident that they wouldn’t include him. I think it’s very similar to the Rangers dealing Kinsler. They really, really don’t want to deal Escobar.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 8, 2008 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What type of offer from the Dodgers?
You’d think they’d have to include something like Kemp + one of their hot young pitchers (Billingsley, Kershaw) for them to trade within division. While I don’t care much for the Padres, they’re my “home team” and I wouldn’t mind see them get some exciting players like them.
Agree about the Cubs – I can’t imagine anything they have being worth a trade.
by JBImaknee on Nov 8, 2008 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well they’re obviously not going to deal Kemp plus one of those two for Peavy, so SD is either using them as a pawn against Atlanta or would take something less. I do think that they overrate Kemp though.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 8, 2008 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth
I haven’t followed this very closely in the last few days, but the names that are being thrown out in the columns I’m sing out there from the Cubs even compare with (any of) the names from the Braves. Something doesn’t add up.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 8, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Probably all the people
Who debated the thought of a Peavy trade at length for a couple weeks on end just awhile back? Incuding Adam, more importantly.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 8, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball fans?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 8, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Tim Cowlishaw thinks the Rangers should "take a run" at Manny.
This is relatively insane journalism.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/110908dnspocowlishaw.300432a.html
by LiamP on Nov 8, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I saw that...
…and was mentally preparing my comments for tomorrow morning’s news roundup post.
In particular…why on earth would you put Murphy or Cruz at DH, and Manny in LF?
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 8, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gangsta factor
Manny and his dreads would look cool standing there in left, whereas Murphy or Cruz would just look like normal baseball players.
And who wants normal baseball players?
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 8, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true
Murphy has the Greer look while Cruz has a rockin’ beard.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 8, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
If Cruz comes to ST with that epic goatee of his intact, I propose we start calling him “The Pharaoh”.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 8, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you type Kam Loe Rangers into google image search the 29th response is a picture of our very own LSJ.
Stop taking over the internet, Jon!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 8, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know
LSJ looks a little like a young Anthony Edwards. IMO
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Nov 8, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
More like his Top Gun days
think of Goose
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Nov 8, 2008 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why...
are you googling pictures of Kam Loe?
by chrisR on Nov 8, 2008 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why
aren’t you?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 8, 2008 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Ha!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 8, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's all part of my evil plan
Muhahahahaha!!!!
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 8, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously though
That does remind me, I’ve been meaning to get my blog kickstarted. I should probably get on that right now, in fact.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 8, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy doesn't look like Rusty Greer.
He looks like some kooky old billionare called up a mad scientist and said, “I want a 15/16th’s size version of Kam Loe who can play the OF!”
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 8, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its not in the physical appearance
but in the grittiness of every step he takes.
On a side note, I stopped seeing Murphy as mini-Kam Loe when I saw Murphy without his hat. I always just pictured him completely bald like Loe and then saw that he actually has a full head of brown hair. My mind was blown.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 8, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ManRam
If we signed him as a DH would that be a bad thing?
His bat would be a monster in this lineup. Don’t worry about playing him in the field. If he is “injured” and only plays 130 games or so thats fine. He would be better than MB was in this lineup.
I know it won’t happen for many reasons but if it did it would be a great addition to the lineup.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 9, 2008 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
damn, Peavy for that??
You know SD is upset Texas is not in this…we probably could get him rather easily looking at what these teams could/would give up.
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 8, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
except
For the fact that Peavy doesn’t want o come here
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 9, 2008 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, that's the reason Texas isn't in this.
And thank Science for that.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 9, 2008 3:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you think?
that’s why i prefaced with this…
You know SD is upset Texas is not in this…
Jindal '12
by Longhorn on Nov 9, 2008 8:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why bring up the AG situation?
Are you implying that their possible logjam could affect the one we might have (Davis/Smoak) in respect to the trade market?
I don’t know if what I just wrote makes sense.
by chrisR on Nov 8, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Cubs
I can’t see how the Cubs are in on this unless they plan to pull off a three way deal. Maybe sign Dempster and the tarde Marquis for prospects to send to SD in return for Peavy.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Nov 9, 2008 9:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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